Re: (313) the circle of trends

2008-07-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Here's hoping that there's no big resurgence of Happy Hardcore, which
 by the generational clock, is due for a revival

I'm afraid that in certain countries it never went away Kent (hangs
head in shame)

Jason

PS Excellent post by the way



2008/7/2 kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 This is an interesting topic. Interesting enought that I feel
 compelled to pull some completely ungrounded theorizing out of my
 tuchis.

 I think what drives these cycles at it's root is that people are like
 ducks -- they form their deepest emotional attachment to the music
 they hear when they're young.  This applies to people who actually
 make music every bit as much as it does to punters.  So when it comes
 their turn to provide the soundtrack for the zeitgeist, they turn
 naturally to the music of their youth.  They update it with influences
 of everything that has happened in the meantime, changes in music
 technology, etc. And this trolling through the wonder years is also
 reactionary -- they use elements of what they liked about music past
 to counter what they dislike about music present.

 So if House music is the current vogue, it's soul and gospel roots are
 an antidote to the blandness of minimal techno, combined with
 nostalgia for the raw sounds of early House music.  This will be
 replaced in due time with something else again.  And not so much
 amongst us out in flyover country, but in New York, London, Berlin,
 Paris, Barcelona, there's the element of fashion involved.  Once
 something becomes too popular amongs the hoi  polloi, the in crowd
 needs to find something different.





Re: (313) the circle of trends

2008-07-04 Thread Mr. jp
If Obama wins, I think he will bring with him the return of happy
hardcore as he was an early Happy League supporter there in Illinois.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofilefriendID=268741754

p.s. who is up for a roadtrip from the Bay to see Rob Hood tomorrow in
LA? THIS guy.

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's hoping that there's no big resurgence of Happy Hardcore, which
 by the generational clock, is due for a revival

 I'm afraid that in certain countries it never went away Kent (hangs
 head in shame)

 Jason

 PS Excellent post by the way


RE: Re: (313) the circle of trends

2008-07-04 Thread Mann, Ravinder
lol, best rant on 313 in years Greg.


-Original Message-
From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 July 2008 00:27
To: 313 Mailing List
Subject: Re: Re: (313) the circle of trends


kent williams wrote:
 What I'm waiting for is for people to start dressing and styling their
 hairs like they do in those super early UK rave videos I've seen. As
 someone who got into it a little later, seeing bad 80's hair and
 ridiculous bulky jumpers combined with dance music is hilarious...

Don't forget the flares!  I think it was Paul Weller who once said
that flares were the worst fashion invention ever.

My own personal pet peeve is the repro Led Zeppelin United States
of America 1977 tour t-shirts.  It's one thing to wear a band
t-shirt, but a fake tour t-shirt for a tour that happened before
you were born?!?  (Yes, it especially pisses me off since I
actually saw Zeppelin in 1977 and bought that very shirt.)

I just want to go up to all these kids and cuff 'em one upside the head.
Buy tour t-shirts from your own generation's bands, dagnabit.

---

On an unrelated-but-(313) note, Kent mentioned RePHLeX and I see that
Grant Wilson-Claridge posted something on the UR Facebook tribute page:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/UNDERGROUND-RESISTANCE/15822493325

What're the Z-Tracks he mentions?

 - Greg the old curmudgeon



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Re: (313) the circle of trends

2008-07-04 Thread robin


He didn't moan about the kids on his lawn in this one though ;)

robin...

On 4 Jul 2008, at 10:13, Mann, Ravinder wrote:


lol, best rant on 313 in years Greg.


-Original Message-
From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 July 2008 00:27
To: 313 Mailing List
Subject: Re: Re: (313) the circle of trends


kent williams wrote:
What I'm waiting for is for people to start dressing and styling  
their

hairs like they do in those super early UK rave videos I've seen. As
someone who got into it a little later, seeing bad 80's hair and
ridiculous bulky jumpers combined with dance music is hilarious...


Don't forget the flares!  I think it was Paul Weller who once said
that flares were the worst fashion invention ever.

My own personal pet peeve is the repro Led Zeppelin United States
of America 1977 tour t-shirts.  It's one thing to wear a band
t-shirt, but a fake tour t-shirt for a tour that happened before
you were born?!?  (Yes, it especially pisses me off since I
actually saw Zeppelin in 1977 and bought that very shirt.)

I just want to go up to all these kids and cuff 'em one upside the  
head.

Buy tour t-shirts from your own generation's bands, dagnabit.

---

On an unrelated-but-(313) note, Kent mentioned RePHLeX and I see that
Grant Wilson-Claridge posted something on the UR Facebook tribute  
page:


http://www.facebook.com/pages/UNDERGROUND-RESISTANCE/15822493325

What're the Z-Tracks he mentions?

- Greg the old curmudgeon



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to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm




RE: (313) the circle of trends

2008-07-04 Thread Robert Taylor
I've seen 6 year old kids wearing Ramones and CBGBs t-shirts - what is
the world coming to? 


Rob Taylor
VT Librarian
x8599
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 VT Library Users' Guide

-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 July 2008 10:31
To: Mann, Ravinder
Cc: 313 Mailing List
Subject: Re: (313) the circle of trends


He didn't moan about the kids on his lawn in this one though ;)

robin...

On 4 Jul 2008, at 10:13, Mann, Ravinder wrote:

 lol, best rant on 313 in years Greg.


 -Original Message-
 From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 04 July 2008 00:27
 To: 313 Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Re: (313) the circle of trends


 kent williams wrote:
 What I'm waiting for is for people to start dressing and styling 
 their hairs like they do in those super early UK rave videos I've 
 seen. As someone who got into it a little later, seeing bad 80's hair

 and ridiculous bulky jumpers combined with dance music is 
 hilarious...

 Don't forget the flares!  I think it was Paul Weller who once said 
 that flares were the worst fashion invention ever.

 My own personal pet peeve is the repro Led Zeppelin United States of 
 America 1977 tour t-shirts.  It's one thing to wear a band t-shirt, 
 but a fake tour t-shirt for a tour that happened before you were 
 born?!?  (Yes, it especially pisses me off since I actually saw 
 Zeppelin in 1977 and bought that very shirt.)

 I just want to go up to all these kids and cuff 'em one upside the 
 head.
 Buy tour t-shirts from your own generation's bands, dagnabit.

 ---

 On an unrelated-but-(313) note, Kent mentioned RePHLeX and I see that 
 Grant Wilson-Claridge posted something on the UR Facebook tribute
 page:

 http://www.facebook.com/pages/UNDERGROUND-RESISTANCE/15822493325

 What're the Z-Tracks he mentions?

 - Greg the old curmudgeon



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Re: (313) the circle of trends

2008-07-04 Thread Martin Dust


On 4 Jul 2008, at 10:34, Robert Taylor wrote:


I've seen 6 year old kids wearing Ramones


I think everyone in Barcelona gets issued with one of these at birth  
Rob :)


m


RE: Re: (313) the circle of trends

2008-07-04 Thread Dan Bean
I believe that they're special cuts of UR tunes and beats only issued to the UR 
battle DJs.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED]


What're the Z-Tracks he mentions?



(313) Z-Tracks

2008-07-04 Thread KiDD*e
It was discussed some years ago :
http://tinyurl.com/5ab66s
(from the elists archives : http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/)
- K*


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From: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 6:59 PM
Subject: RE: Re: (313) the circle of trends


I believe that they're special cuts of UR tunes and beats only issued to the
UR battle DJs.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED]


What're the Z-Tracks he mentions?




RE: (313) the circle of trends

2008-07-04 Thread Anton Banks (www.antonbanks.com)
Mixmag put it best. They called Happy Hardcore the evolution free musical
version of the Galapagos Islands.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 3:46 AM
To: kent williams
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) the circle of trends


 Here's hoping that there's no big resurgence of Happy Hardcore, which
 by the generational clock, is due for a revival

I'm afraid that in certain countries it never went away Kent (hangs
head in shame)

Jason

PS Excellent post by the way



2008/7/2 kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 This is an interesting topic. Interesting enought that I feel
 compelled to pull some completely ungrounded theorizing out of my
 tuchis.

 I think what drives these cycles at it's root is that people are like
 ducks -- they form their deepest emotional attachment to the music
 they hear when they're young.  This applies to people who actually
 make music every bit as much as it does to punters.  So when it comes
 their turn to provide the soundtrack for the zeitgeist, they turn
 naturally to the music of their youth.  They update it with influences
 of everything that has happened in the meantime, changes in music
 technology, etc. And this trolling through the wonder years is also
 reactionary -- they use elements of what they liked about music past
 to counter what they dislike about music present.

 So if House music is the current vogue, it's soul and gospel roots are
 an antidote to the blandness of minimal techno, combined with
 nostalgia for the raw sounds of early House music.  This will be
 replaced in due time with something else again.  And not so much
 amongst us out in flyover country, but in New York, London, Berlin,
 Paris, Barcelona, there's the element of fashion involved.  Once
 something becomes too popular amongs the hoi  polloi, the in crowd
 needs to find something different.






RE: (313) the circle of trends

2008-07-04 Thread Robert Taylor
People are dreadfully snobbish about it - I can see exactly why people
like it and fair play to them. Just as long as they don't move in next
to me. ;) 


Rob Taylor
VT Librarian
x8599
Hatch Desk x1088
 VT Library Users' Guide

-Original Message-
From: Anton Banks (www.antonbanks.com) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 July 2008 15:34
To: list 313
Subject: RE: (313) the circle of trends

Mixmag put it best. They called Happy Hardcore the evolution free
musical version of the Galapagos Islands.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 3:46 AM
To: kent williams
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) the circle of trends


 Here's hoping that there's no big resurgence of Happy Hardcore, which 
 by the generational clock, is due for a revival

I'm afraid that in certain countries it never went away Kent (hangs head
in shame)

Jason

PS Excellent post by the way



2008/7/2 kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 This is an interesting topic. Interesting enought that I feel 
 compelled to pull some completely ungrounded theorizing out of my 
 tuchis.

 I think what drives these cycles at it's root is that people are like 
 ducks -- they form their deepest emotional attachment to the music 
 they hear when they're young.  This applies to people who actually 
 make music every bit as much as it does to punters.  So when it comes 
 their turn to provide the soundtrack for the zeitgeist, they turn 
 naturally to the music of their youth.  They update it with influences

 of everything that has happened in the meantime, changes in music 
 technology, etc. And this trolling through the wonder years is also 
 reactionary -- they use elements of what they liked about music past 
 to counter what they dislike about music present.

 So if House music is the current vogue, it's soul and gospel roots are

 an antidote to the blandness of minimal techno, combined with 
 nostalgia for the raw sounds of early House music.  This will be 
 replaced in due time with something else again.  And not so much 
 amongst us out in flyover country, but in New York, London, Berlin, 
 Paris, Barcelona, there's the element of fashion involved.  Once 
 something becomes too popular amongs the hoi  polloi, the in crowd 
 needs to find something different.




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