Re: [313] curious?
haha --- Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Alexander Ohanyan wrote: Programming music without soul is like training a deaf mouse to jump on a keyboard, throwing darts at a wall, or telling a computer to randomly pick notes and rhythms; STOP GIVING AWAY MY PRODUCTION TRICKS if you think there is good techno without soul, you might as well be listening to the airconditioner. My AC has killer sub-bass. The fridge at the grocery store behind the bakery counter sounds for all the world like percussion from a Surgeon track. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] curious?
--- james boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the term 'soulful techno' is bandied about way too often... Soul music, as in Motown etc.., was music in which the singer or songwriter bared his/her soul in the lyrics and the delivery A lot of (great) techno is blatantly not like this. I do see where Christian is coming from though. From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] curious? Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 06:26:04 +0200 funk (maybe) soul NO WAY!!! if a track/DJ performance does not have SOUL, what is there to make it good? maybe you don't understand the term SOUL (as in don't sell your's) Christian Bloch http://mp3.com/bloch Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go/Restructured - Original Message - From: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 10:32 PM Subject: RE: Re: [313] curious? I'm sorry, but it really bothers me when the words 'funk' and 'soul' as if they are synonymous with 'good' and 'solid.' *I* am not a person who has funk or soul, does this mean i'm a bad person? Just because a track doesn't contain these elements does not mean its bad. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] curious?
Programming music without soul is like training a deaf mouse to jump on a keyboard, throwing darts at a wall, or telling a computer to randomly pick notes and rhythms; if you think there is good techno without soul, you might as well be listening to the airconditioner And in terms of commentary on bandying about the term soulful people who heal or musicians, or artists know what soul is you must read this list way too much --- james boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the term 'soulful techno' is bandied about way too often... Soul music, as in Motown etc.., was music in which the singer or songwriter bared his/her soul in the lyrics and the delivery A lot of (great) techno is blatantly not like this. I do see where Christian is coming from though. From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] curious? Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 06:26:04 +0200 funk (maybe) soul NO WAY!!! if a track/DJ performance does not have SOUL, what is there to make it good? maybe you don't understand the term SOUL (as in don't sell your's) Christian Bloch http://mp3.com/bloch Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go/Restructured - Original Message - From: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 10:32 PM Subject: RE: Re: [313] curious? I'm sorry, but it really bothers me when the words 'funk' and 'soul' as if they are synonymous with 'good' and 'solid.' *I* am not a person who has funk or soul, does this mean i'm a bad person? Just because a track doesn't contain these elements does not mean its bad. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Darren Emerson
woo hoo baby where's the rolexes and the viagra? isnt there a trance list you can subscribe to? --- Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, Got the latest mixcd by Darren Emerson last monday (global underground 20) and i must say it´s really very, very good mix!!! Smooth, funky, dark and deep tech-house, none of this ´how do i bore myself and the audience to death´ progressive business, recommended!!! Has anyone heard him spin recently..or is he not done? Martijn Searchline IIC Van Breestraat 154 P.O. Box 9292 1006 AG Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel: +31 (0)20 578 86 86 Fax: +31 (0)20 662 92 81 http://www.searchline-iic.com Disclaimer: This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies(wich may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from Searchline IIC, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient.If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the system manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Darren Emerson
are you being ironic or am i on crack? --- Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it´s always nice to read a friendly opinion from fellow-listmember! M. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Alexander Ohanyan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 19 juli 2001 10:09 Aan: Martijn de Blaauw CC: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: [313] Darren Emerson woo hoo baby where's the rolexes and the viagra? isnt there a trance list you can subscribe to? --- Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, Got the latest mixcd by Darren Emerson last monday (global underground 20) and i must say its really very, very good mix!!! Smooth, funky, dark and deep tech-house, none of this how do i bore myself and the audience to death progressive business, recommended!!! Has anyone heard him spin recently..or is he not done? Martijn Searchline IIC Van Breestraat 154 P.O. Box 9292 1006 AG Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel: +31 (0)20 578 86 86 Fax: +31 (0)20 662 92 81 http://www.searchline-iic.com Disclaimer: This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies(wich may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from Searchline IIC, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient.If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the system manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re: [313] curious?
about totally different dj sets: when a dj gets to be more than a record player, similarities in his sets point to a theme, leitmotiv, something more than bull shit...someone tries to say something and often certain-- words,--lets say , come up to help him express himself playing a totally different dj set every time is great too, but there is something to b said for knowing your rec's well, as many an originator proves time in time out :this is my humble f'in opinion --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for the sake of interest shall we say. 1) of all the times i've seen him he has never played remotely the same set Really? h 2) he has and continues to push the boundries of a dj / live pa set Hmmm ...like how? By using a sound efx? by using a 909? yawn..! 3) i've never seen a dj, except for mark farina, come close to taking the audience on a journey the way that he does. Mark Farina?!?!?maybe you need to see a few more artists.. 4) i love hard techno, and nobody does it better. Are you sure your not his bitch boy or somthing? 'to each their own.' flame on.. kyle Quoting Alexander Ohanyan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was wondering why nearly every one is on richie hawtin's dick on this list?--just a question in general, desiring a sincere answer!!! I do like much of his music, no disrespect there; but, really, why? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] curious?
Pissy pissy, I didn't ask why everyone thinks mother teresa is so special... Those things that bother us often and usually point to more important things, like who to glorify that's white, perhaps, in this case, (not neccessarily), but just maybe... --- Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18 Jul 2001, T.J.Johnson wrote: Besides that why would someone even post something as off topic and as negative as your post? What actual good could your question/statement ever do? Is it your intention to just piss people off? Might be, actually it's called 'trolling'. A more subtle version of 'flaming'. It's for the people who have too much time and too few ideas of what to do. J -- Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control. - UR - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[313] curious?
I was wondering why nearly every one is on richie hawtin's dick on this list?--just a question in general, desiring a sincere answer!!! I do like much of his music, no disrespect there; but, really, why? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Ken Ishii in Detroit?
Where exactly is Fumiya Tanaka playing? He's really exceptional, got the funk...Thanks:Alex --- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw him here in Sydney about 9 months ago. It went down in my books as the worst set ever witnessed by an international touring dj (that wasn't off his face). From track selection, to cheating on the mix.. it was sub-standard. Yet, others have heard him at others shows and given the thumbs up. r. At 10:56 AM 5/9/2001 -0400, you wrote: excellent! i've seen shufflemaster before - he was quite impressive on three tables. and i've heard good things about tanaka. . . looking forward to it :) k On Tue, 8 May 2001, nancy mitchell wrote: --- He will be playing there soon as well as Fumiya Tanaka and Shufflemaster!!! details sooner or later. see yall at DEMF!! love from tokyo... nan John Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if Ken Ishii has ever played in Detroit before? When I spoke to him in Chicago in the Fall, he said he has never been to Detroit. Although, his website says that he played there in '97. Go figure. Cheers, John Scott - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Nancy Mitchell Artist Management and Promotions FORM,Inc. Tokyo Japan Tel: +81-(0)3-5459-3939 Fax: +81-(0)3-5459-3940 URL Address: http://www.womb.co.jp EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Benn [Royal] Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net http://dj.royaltech.net phone: +61 (0) 413 316 618 mail: R720 Royal Exchange NSW 1225 Australia :it is by will alone i set my mind in motion - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Download this set off napster, if you like good music... he's havin fun and it aint no musical joke this is to rspond to the klarkin dj threads __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] TWILO!!!
Twilo may not be the place that you feel most comfortable in, may not have the vibe of some nameless other clubs, but when people rip it on that sound system, there is not much out there like that (Mills and a few others are the ones i'm talkin about, not Sasha and dickweed) --- John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grr, just subscribed to the NY Times to bring you this: From today's NY Times City Closes Dance Club Over Problems With Permits By ERIC LIPTON wilo, a popular Chelsea nightclub, was shut down early yesterday, at least temporarily, after the police and building inspectors raided the club and evicted hundreds of patrons, saying that several of the club's building permits were missing or invalid. The move comes as the Giuliani administration intensifies its long- running battle against a handful of Manhattan dance clubs that city officials say are havens of drug use and occasional violence. No one at Twilo was arrested in yesterday's raid, police officials said. Instead, officials shut the club, at 530 West 27th Street, between 10th and 11th Avenues, after determining that its certificate of occupancy and place of assembly permits had not been properly issued or maintained. Officials also said that the club's fire protection plan was not up to date and that it had not gotten required approvals for first-floor renovations. A Department of Buildings spokesman said the six-year-old club, known for its electronic music and dancing that lasts until well after dawn, would not be allowed to reopen until the violations were resolved. They are shut down until further notice, indefinitely, said the spokesman, Paul Wein, adding that a June 21 court date had been set. Peter R. Sullivan, a lawyer for the club, said the violations were technical and called the club's closing unjustified. Absolute guaranteed it will be reopened, he said. The enforcement tactic used yesterday reflected a strategy by the city to no longer issue or renew permits to Twilo and other troubled clubs, unless ordered to do so by the court. That means that if a permit expires or needs to be amended, even for a relatively minor inconsistency, the city may refuse to do so and then shut the club down, Deputy Mayor Rudy Washington said. For example, part of the justification for closing Twilo yesterday, officials said, was that its basement assembly permit was invalid, at least in part, because it was issued to Sound Factory, a club that used to operate at that location. Mr. Washington was not ready to declare a lasting victory against Twilo, saying that the city's action could be overturned in court. It is now their move, Mr. Washington said, referring to the club management. This is not over by no stretch of the imagination. The Giuliani administration has been trying to close Twilo since at least November 1998, when the city, citing the drug overdose of a patron, filed a lawsuit declaring the club a public nuisance. City officials contend that clubs like Twilo and the Tunnel, another West 27th Street establishment, do not do enough to prevent the use and sale of drugs like ecstasy and GHB, or gamma hydroxybutyrate. But the clubs have just as vehemently responded that they are doing their part, hiring private security officers, including some who work undercover, to try to prevent drug use and violence. Mr. Sullivan said the fact that the state courts have allowed Twilo to stay open despite the lawsuit was proof that the club was well managed and dedicated to preventing drug sales. City officials, meanwhile, said that the evidence of the severity of the drug problem at Twilo is on display when the club is open: management hires a private ambulance to wait outside, ready to take patrons who have overdosed to hospital emergency rooms. The Giuliani administration's dance club enforcement effort was stepped up after April 9, when Terrence Davis, a 16-year-old who had been ejected from the Tunnel, was stabbed to death about two blocks from that club. A fire broke out at Twilo on a weekend night about a month ago, but the club was reopened the same night. Mr. Sullivan said the city's efforts were misguided. It is very sad that the city continues to hide the absence of a policy concerning drug abuse by the dancing public by demonizing Twilo, he said. Twilo regulars, some of whom learned of the news yesterday on the club's Internet site, seemed to agree with Mr. Sullivan. Almost all clubs have fire code violations, one patron wrote on the site's message board. The patron called the code violations an excuse to ensure that there are no bumps in the road in Giuliani's Disney-gentrification plan to have NYC become an ultraconservative suburb. Why was it shut down? All those private ambulances waiting for the OD'ing kids? check:
Re: [313] Derrick May an arrogant prick! Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
art is imitation--this doesnt mean that people dont imitate unconsciously or indirectly on deeper levels-- who's arrogant or just simply in a bad mood here? every ripple has its source! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'We let him know that we are one, and he has our support, but we just want Detroit to be recognized at the festival, said May. Everybody's coming here to be down with the source -- not the people who imitate the source.' I was going to point out this quote as well... who the hell on that lineup does derrick may consider an imitator? True, it's not detroit talent. But I don't see anyone on there that I'd even remotely call a detroit imitator. It almost sounds like he's trying to imply that anything not from detroit is inherently an imitation. I'd like to think he doesn't have his head that far up his ass, but it's hard to see what else he'd mean. True, the lineup isn't as representative of detroit talent as it was last year, but I'd hardly call anyone on there an imitator. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] john cage vs. modern electronic music
You should probably check out late Miles stuff before his pop phase and after In a silent Way--might be what you're looking for, its influenced by Stockhausen big time --- viagratek . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for your suggestions so far. i think i have enough background information on him for my project but im still looking for specific examples of MODERN electronic music that has been influenced by cage. i was saw brian eno's name mentioned, but im not familiar with any of his work...any suggestions?!! the only thing i came up with (and it might not even be that valid) is aphex twin blahalah bouncing ball. it seems to fit the whole music by chance thing and how everyday noise can create music which were themes shared by cage, but do you guys think i should look for something more layered and soundscapey? as for Stockhausen, terry riley and steve riech, yes im already familiar with there work too, but the other group gets to steve riech and Stockhausen so they're off limits. -v _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] events in nyc?
A good night to go to is also probably Reade truth's And Jon Turi's night on Avenue A (i forgot the exact spot) They work at Sonic Groove, and calling there will inform of details...last week they had A Weatherall, was kickin', they got a good schedule of music lined up... --- Elliot Taub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perspects (from Ersatz Audio, Detroit), Ulysses and a few others are playing at FUN on Saturday night, the 8th. FUN is at 130 Madison St. in Chinatown. Its under the Manhattan Bridge. check www.scatalogics.com for more info. e Phil Chan wrote: i'll be paying my first visit to new york this weekend and was wondering if there were any interesting things going on. p. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
what is an ewi midi controller?
Dear list, what is an ewi midi controllerbefre you laugh at my lack of knowledge, I'll let you know that I know what a midi controller is...its the EWI midi.contr. that i am not familiar with. Thanks in advance for any clarification __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] DEMF no Ritchie Hawtin!!
Its pretty f'n obvious that Derrick May should be there because he started techno, unlike Hawtin. May is an originator, and that is also why he plays imprtant tracks, not just the newest tribal techno crap...he should be at every demf, and hopefully with people as important as the last poets do any of you still know who the LAST POETS are? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: [313] dreamsequence (wasRE: [313] Before you dis Moby)
I dont know who thinks dream sequence sucks, but they obviousle got no flavor! Blake Baxter's music is definitely hot...check yourself __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Kenny Larkin in NYC?
Dear 313, I heard Kenny Larkin is playing NYCthis weekend Can someone say yes or no for sure, and if yes, where and when? Thanks Alex __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
