Re: [313] mills metropolis

2000-09-02 Thread Andrew Chuter
Metropolis is a masterpiece and a great movie to put techno music over the
top of.

For a start, it's a silent movie, so the visual element is designed to tell
the story by itself. Second, the theme being technology lends itself to
techno music.

At a party about 5 years ago in Sydney I played a set while Metropolis was
projected in front of the crowd.

Some tracks that I think go really well together with the movie are:
LFO's 'Tied Up' for a really industrial feel in the early scenes with the
men working the machines. It's visually very rhythmic.

Dopplereffekt's 'I am a scientist' is good during the scenes in Rotwang's
laboratory, and 'Pornostar' when the girl dances in front of the men.

Drexciya's Bubble Metropolis or Waveriders during the Babel tower scene. In
fact, Drexciya with just about any scene in the movie

Kraftwerks Numbers in the fathers office high above the city

UR's Elimination or Final Frontier during the final scenes of flooding and
destruction.

69 Desire in the chase seen to the roof at the conclusion

BTW, there are so many similarities between Metropolis and Bladerunner,
don't get me started.

florian V.II



Re: [313] techno books/postmodernism (was UR in Europe)

2000-08-11 Thread Andrew Chuter
To my awareness there has only been one book that has dealt exclusively with
Detroit techno. That is Dan Sicko's 'Techno Rebels'.

There are a handful of music or recording guides on the topic, but the only
other major book I know of that has discussed Detroit techno at length is
More Brilliant than the Sun By Kodwo Eshun.

Dan obviously has a long and direct contact with the scene. He takes a
historical, just the facts approach and is especially strong on the origins.

I was so glad to see this book come out for several reasons. One is that
there actually _exists_ a book about this music. It's so easy for things to
be
forgotten with the passing of time. Another reason is that I think many
people don't know the true story and this book, in its no-nonsense approach,
is the simplest way to set the record straight. Despite the books clarity,
there are still people who have read it, and think that it is 'just' a book
about Detroit's post-disco scene, or that it should have covered more on
'goa trance'. [see amazon.com customer reviews]

Sure, the book doesn't talk much about techno's later development in Europe
and elsewhere, but I think that is the book's strength. There will be plenty
of other people out there who will write those stories. The book doesn't
really talk much about the equipment and techniques. Same again.

The other thing we might want a music book to write about is the music's
structure and what it is like to listen to. Well, this is the difficult one,
isn't it?

I'm reminded here of something Brian Eno (I think) said. It was 'writing
about
music is like dancing about architecture'. Also, Wittgenstein said 'of that
which we cannot speak, we must pass over in silence'.

A moments reflection on this topic reveals to me that the best way to get an
idea of what the music is like is to actually listen to it, of course. That,
by the way, is not to say that reading about it is fundamentally flawed, or
not useful or desirable, just secondary in many cases to careful and
repeated listening.

Some obvious examples when we need writing about music is with reviews, when
we are trying to decide what to buy, when we are trying to explain to people
unfamiliar with the music, the kind of reasons we are on this list, or
perhaps when we are trying to make a more permanent record for the purposes
of history, as in Dan Sicko's case.

Since most (but not all) of the recordings are readily available, it makes
sense in the case of Techno Rebels to put in a good discography and leave it
at that.

Kodwo Eshun's book is very different, on the other hand. The subject matter
is mostly about D'n'B, dub, hip-hop, jazz, with Detroit techno one style
among many. I got excited about this book because it brought together a lot
of music, primarily black music, that I was really into.

[I'll talk about this book a little here, but forgive me, my copy is in
another country right now.]

In the 1st chapter Kodwo says something about most dance music journalism
being a mean and insubstantial list of names, labels and DJ charts. I tend
to agree. He goes to a kind of opposite extreme to Dan's book, I think
attempting to recreate the experience of listening in words. He also coins a
whole lot of new scientific sounding compound words (e.g.
technorhythmachine) and seems to be aligned with postmodern methods of
analysis. This, at least for me, is fun to read to a certain extent, but I
think it runs into the problems that are hinted at in Eno and Wittgenstein's
thoughts.

Jared Wilson wrote:
 Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 10:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [313] UR in Europe
 Also check out More Brilliant than the Sun By Kodwo Eshun.  I would say
a
 much more sophisticated and postmodern view of techno, electro, jungle,
etc.
 Has an excellent section on UR.  I would recommend it over Techno
 Rebels.

Well, maybe postmodernism is more sophisticated in a way, but sometimes I
think at the expense of clarity and common sense.

A few months ago I read 'Fashionable Nonsense: Postmodern Intellectuals
Abuse of Science' by Sokal and Bricmont. I regard this as absolutely
essential reading to anyone interested in postmodernism. In this book a
number of leading postmodernists (Lacan, Baudrillard, Deleuze, Virilio, etc)
are roundly criticized for the following:
1) Holding forth at length on scientific theories about which one has, at
best an exceedingly hazy idea. The most common tactic is to use scientific
(or pseudo-scientific) terminology without bothering much much about what
the words actually mean.
2) Importing concepts from the natural sciences into the humanities or
social sciences without giving the slightest conceptual or empirical
justification...
3) Displaying a superficial erudition by shamelessly throwing around
technical terms in a context where they are completely irrelevant...
4) Manipulating phrases and sentences that are, in fact, meaningless.

I think Eshun is guilty of at least a few of these failures. The only way
out then is to say that his 

florian re-entry + travel plans

2000-07-29 Thread Andrew Chuter
hi

This is Andrew Chuter, aka florian, from Sydney, Australia. I'm back on this
list after a 2.5 year absence. There's some info about my music interests
at:
http://spraci.cia.com.au/profiles/florian.html

In '98 I backpacked around Japan, the UK, and Europe with a bunch of
records. Musical highlights included seeing Kraftwerk at Sonar and dj'ing in
Kyoto and at Tresor's headquarters night. Thanks to those I hooked up with
along the way, including Otto, on this list.

After returning I started a radio program with my pals Agent Patrick, James
Bond, and Color, called Dark Energy.
http://www.darkenergy.nitro.com.au/home.htm

I sadly left that behind to teach English in Tokyo, where I am now, sans
vinyl.
A few Detroit related CD's I recommend from the last few years include
Drexciya - Neptune's Lair
Dopplereffekt - Gesamtkunstwerk
Jeff Mills - From the 21st
Dan Curtin - Pregenesis
Boards of Canada - SKAM008CD
Warp 10+1 Influences
and Bodenstandig 2000 on Rephlex for those with a sense of humour.

Anyway, I'm off travelling again, this time to New York, Washington DC,
Philadelphia, Detroit and Chicago, for at least 5 weeks, maybe more. I'm
leaving Tokyo on Sept. 15th (the 1st day of the Olympics). I like meeting
people with similar interests, so if any of you live around there, and want
to get together, please drop me an e-mail. I'm hoping to see some good DJ's
and live acts. Besides music (Detroit, 'idm', ambient, jazz, and world) I'm
also into art, film, books, history, science, nature, hiking, etc.

cheers
Andrew

p.s. shout out also to Patrick and Phil...