(313) Thinnerism???
Anyone know what happened to Thinnerism??? I was waiting for the relaunch back last Oct/November only to see it changed to this November. Anyone know where I can find the old stuff in the Thinner catalog for download?
RE: (313) NPR: How The Internet Transformed The American Rave Scene
good article, a little off at times (seriously... Rob Theakston is just a Detroit rave veteran???), but a good read. -Original Message- From: jeremy bispo [mailto:jbi...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:12 PM To: list 313 Subject: (313) NPR: How The Internet Transformed The American Rave Scene http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2011/07/11/137680680/how-the-internet-tra nsformed-the-american-rave-scene -- Best, Jeremy As You Like It Founder Executive Producer skype: jeremybispo i...@ayli-sf.com www.ayli-sf.com
RE: (313) OK Kent, I see your point
this could be argued a bit. I would use Ghettotech as possibly the best example of had to be there kind of music. While the world at large rocks out to GT, unless you were listening to Gary Chandler and the rest of 'em evenings on WJLB from his first appearances in early '91 until GT had fully formed, you can't quite piece together where it came from or why. Maybe I'm putting too much into it, but I believe having been in the clubs back then hearing the progression to full-on ghettotech gives me a different take on GT than maybe someone else who wasn't there. It's likely an association with different events from back then too... Like hearing Coffee Pot (It's Time for the Percolator) on Belle Isle or the 7 mile strip on a Friday night during the summer of '93, or I'll Beat That B_tch With A Bat while cruising down Woodward through Highland Park heading downtown... There IS an essence of certain forms of music that have a had to be there component to fully understand it, but not being a part of that doesn't mean one cannot enjoy the music. I'm sure there's a lot of Reggae that I simply won't get because I was not a part of the struggles of living in Jamaica's slums, but I still enjoy it anyways. -Original Message- From: Jacob Arnold [mailto:ja...@gridface.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:55 PM To: Thor Teague Cc: Diego Simak; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OK Kent, I see your point I agree with Thor--every listener brings their own interpretation to a piece of music. Even the artist might not be able to explain why they created it. I don't think you have to be from Jamaica to appreciate reggae or be from New Orleans to appreciate jazz. These scenes all started local and then gained a wider audience overseas. In fact, I have no doubt European tastes shaped the sound of techno to some extent. If a record with a certain sound sold well in Europe, of course Detroit producers would create other tracks in that style. In any case, I personally think that if you are dancing to it, then you get it. J On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Thor Teague wrote: Music is its own meaning... there is no need for it to be this or be that, if you choose to let it simply be. Nobody dances to a destination. The point of the dance is the dance. I don't think you can understand the SOCIO-POLITICS behind it without at least living there for a few years, if not being from there. But that only has as much meaning as you choose to attach to it. ~T On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Diego Simak diego.si...@gmail.com wrote: What do you guys think about this? Is possible for a person that had born outside Detroit and US, correctly understand the real meaning of Detroit Techno?
RE: (313) Deep Mix: A Void
hmmm... so W1 is nice eh? Maybe I've had my head in the land of Waves plugins for too long... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM To: 3...@coke-smyth.net; mr.verd...@gmail.com Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Deep Mix: A Void http://www.cornwarning.com/xfer/Verdant-A_Void-Mix.mp3 Gone on a diet - 192kbs MP3 -- 153mb. Oh, and Andrew there was a LOT of headroom on that mix, so I jacked up the volume, without messing with the dynamics. One thing that DJs who aren't dyed in the wool studio rats don't do is a bit of after the fact mastering. I don't believe in messing with the sound much,as you're playing other people's productions which have been mixed and mastered to their satisfaction already. But it never hurts to get things pushed up to normal commercial volume levels. A gift to the world is the W1 limiter. This is a 'brick wall' lookahead limiter. You just look at your waveform and pull down the threshold so it cuts a few DB off your biggest peaks. Most of the time it will be completely transparent, and just raise the average level so you don't have to max out the volume to hear it on the subway. http://www.yohng.com/software/w1limit.html http://www.betabugsaudio.com/plugs.php It's also a great plug-in to drop on drum tracks to get them embiggened. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:04 AM, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote: Tracklist looks good, but at 550mb its too expensive for my connection. :( C My first time sharing a mix on here but i reckon this one stands up to closer inspection. I've actually been sharing higher tempo mixes on my sound cloud space for a while and share more experimental and ambient stuff on my own site. Dub and Deep House/Techno i guess. Older and newer stuff, some of which I treated myself to for my birthday last week. Hopefully I'll come back to this later in life and remember the stuff I really liked when I was forty ..something. http://soundcloud.com/verdant-recordings/a-void Monolake /Void (Imbalance Computer Music) Zzzzra /Ennio Profundo (Optic_Remix) (Sublime Port Netlabel) Delta Funktionen /Estuary (Ann Aimee) Nick Sole /Contigo (Mojuba) Benny Brunn / Stay Hungry Stay Foolish (Bine) Haventepe /Air (Styrax Leaves) Conforce /Spoiled (XDB Remix 2) (Clone Basement Series) Gerd /Time Space (Duplex North Side Remix) (Clone Basement Series) Donato Dozzy /United Elements (Lan Music) Substance /Inversion (Scion Versions) Ribn /Mined (Millions of Moments) Tob Jona /Metro 501 (a.r.t.less) Untitled /Madteo (Workshop) Deepchord /Sofitel (Soma) Freund Der Familie /Sark (Sven#8217;s Short Range Mix) (FdF) Alton Miller /Deep In My Soul (Peacefrog) Black Jazz Consortium /Deep Love (Soul People Music) Sven Weisemann /Kiss of Abama (Mojuba) Move D /Jus House (Uzuri) enjoy and feedback always welcome. good bad or indifferent. thanks for listening verdant-recordings June 2011 www.verdant-recordings.com Andy
RE: (313) Deep Mix: A Void
true that this isn't the place (RIP to 313Techknow), however, it's good info that I'll be taking a look at. -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:00 AM To: G. Jones Cc: 3...@coke-smyth.net; mr.verd...@gmail.com; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Deep Mix: A Void Not that this is really the place to discuss VST plugins but... Waves plugins are quite expensive and (I would argue) a real pain to use because of their copy protection. The W1 limiter is a carefully coded clone of the Waves L1 Limiter, and it's free. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:24 AM, G. Jones log...@cox.net wrote: hmmm... so W1 is nice eh? Maybe I've had my head in the land of Waves plugins for too long... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM To: 3...@coke-smyth.net; mr.verd...@gmail.com Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Deep Mix: A Void http://www.cornwarning.com/xfer/Verdant-A_Void-Mix.mp3 Gone on a diet - 192kbs MP3 -- 153mb. Oh, and Andrew there was a LOT of headroom on that mix, so I jacked up the volume, without messing with the dynamics. One thing that DJs who aren't dyed in the wool studio rats don't do is a bit of after the fact mastering. I don't believe in messing with the sound much,as you're playing other people's productions which have been mixed and mastered to their satisfaction already. But it never hurts to get things pushed up to normal commercial volume levels. A gift to the world is the W1 limiter. This is a 'brick wall' lookahead limiter. You just look at your waveform and pull down the threshold so it cuts a few DB off your biggest peaks. Most of the time it will be completely transparent, and just raise the average level so you don't have to max out the volume to hear it on the subway. http://www.yohng.com/software/w1limit.html http://www.betabugsaudio.com/plugs.php It's also a great plug-in to drop on drum tracks to get them embiggened. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:04 AM, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote: Tracklist looks good, but at 550mb its too expensive for my connection. :( C My first time sharing a mix on here but i reckon this one stands up to closer inspection. I've actually been sharing higher tempo mixes on my sound cloud space for a while and share more experimental and ambient stuff on my own site. Dub and Deep House/Techno i guess. Older and newer stuff, some of which I treated myself to for my birthday last week. Hopefully I'll come back to this later in life and remember the stuff I really liked when I was forty ..something. http://soundcloud.com/verdant-recordings/a-void Monolake /Void (Imbalance Computer Music) Zzzzra /Ennio Profundo (Optic_Remix) (Sublime Port Netlabel) Delta Funktionen /Estuary (Ann Aimee) Nick Sole /Contigo (Mojuba) Benny Brunn / Stay Hungry Stay Foolish (Bine) Haventepe /Air (Styrax Leaves) Conforce /Spoiled (XDB Remix 2) (Clone Basement Series) Gerd /Time Space (Duplex North Side Remix) (Clone Basement Series) Donato Dozzy /United Elements (Lan Music) Substance /Inversion (Scion Versions) Ribn /Mined (Millions of Moments) Tob Jona /Metro 501 (a.r.t.less) Untitled /Madteo (Workshop) Deepchord /Sofitel (Soma) Freund Der Familie /Sark (Sven#8217;s Short Range Mix) (FdF) Alton Miller /Deep In My Soul (Peacefrog) Black Jazz Consortium /Deep Love (Soul People Music) Sven Weisemann /Kiss of Abama (Mojuba) Move D /Jus House (Uzuri) enjoy and feedback always welcome. good bad or indifferent. thanks for listening verdant-recordings June 2011 www.verdant-recordings.com Andy
RE: (313) Deep Mix: A Void
30 minutes into it and it's nice so far. I dig this kinda stuff a lot. will have to convert to mp3 tho for on the go listening tho. My little Sansa C240 mp3 player that ran Rockbox died recently and I don't see FLAC support with my new Android phone (though I'm sure it's out there and I'm just being lazy). From: Andrew Green [mailto:mr.verd...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 6:04 AM To: list 313 Subject: (313) Deep Mix: A Void My first time sharing a mix on here but i reckon this one stands up to closer inspection. I've actually been sharing higher tempo mixes on my sound cloud space for a while and share more experimental and ambient stuff on my own site. Dub and Deep House/Techno i guess. Older and newer stuff, some of which I treated myself to for my birthday last week. Hopefully I'll come back to this later in life and remember the stuff I really liked when I was forty ..something. http://soundcloud.com/verdant-recordings/a-void Monolake /Void (Imbalance Computer Music) Zzzzra /Ennio Profundo (Optic_Remix) (Sublime Port Netlabel) Delta Funktionen /Estuary (Ann Aimee) Nick Sole /Contigo (Mojuba) Benny Brunn / Stay Hungry Stay Foolish (Bine) Haventepe /Air (Styrax Leaves) Conforce /Spoiled (XDB Remix 2) (Clone Basement Series) Gerd /Time Space (Duplex North Side Remix) (Clone Basement Series) Donato Dozzy /United Elements (Lan Music) Substance /Inversion (Scion Versions) Ribn /Mined (Millions of Moments) Tob Jona /Metro 501 (a.r.t.less) Untitled /Madteo (Workshop) Deepchord /Sofitel (Soma) Freund Der Familie /Sark (Sven's Short Range Mix) (FdF) Alton Miller /Deep In My Soul (Peacefrog) Black Jazz Consortium /Deep Love (Soul People Music) Sven Weisemann /Kiss of Abama (Mojuba) Move D /Jus House (Uzuri) enjoy and feedback always welcome. good bad or indifferent. thanks for listening verdant-recordings June 2011 www.verdant-recordings.com Andy
RE: (313) Claude Young's DEMF set
ugh, tried to upload it via Yousendit. There's a cap of 50MB for free users. I'll see if I can find somewhere else for it. -Original Message- From: Samuel Karmel [mailto:samuel.kar...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:17 PM To: jeremy bispo Cc: Jay Stickel; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Claude Young's DEMF set Re-up? please On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:54 AM, jeremy bispo jbi...@gmail.com wrote: We're (AS YOU LIKE IT) doing a free day party in Golden Gate Park Sat from noon to 6pm and Sunday Pacific Sound has A Guy Called Gerald also at a free day party. This one is on Treasure Island. I can send more info, if you want, privately. - Jeremy Ayli-sf.com
