Re: Michael Huckaby RIP

[Ronny Pries (rktic)]

Never been in touch with him. Yet, whenever his name popped up it went along 
with a warmhearted tone and very much respect. For a very long time.

Maybe we all should strive to be a little bit more like him.

Resonate in peace, mister.


> Am 25.04.2020 um 13:31 schrieb Mario De Block :
> 
> I really liked this remix so much
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iINfj5GV6-I 
> 
> Van: Will Walker 
> Verzonden: zaterdag 25 april 2020 4:16
> Aan: Monica Lesher 
> CC: Edward Thompson ; Andrew Duke 
> ; 313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
> Onderwerp: Re: Michael Huckaby RIP
>  
> first time I saw him play...amazing introduction
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLYIv-78n2E 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:59 PM Monica Lesher  > wrote:
> If anyone hears about a go fund me for his family, please share. I know there 
> was one set up by Delano for his medical bills last month. If the family is 
> setting up a new one I'd most certainly want to know.
> 
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 21:43 Edward Thompson  > wrote:
> Oh damn! 
> RIP Mike...
> Great bloke and always willing to give his time
> Peace
> Ed612313
> 
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 11:16 AM Andrew Duke  > wrote:
> A man who taught so many has left this physical plane. RIP Huck

Re: new subscribers

[Ronny Pries (rktic)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bomkgXeDkE 



> Am 25.10.2018 um 13:02 schrieb Rob Theakston :
> 
> Hey, I'm Fred the Cancerian from New Jersey I like collecting records and 
> exploring the cave of the unknown
> 
> Hello, I'm Cindy, I'm a Pisces and I like Chihuahuas and Chinese noodles
> 
> Hi, my name is Ricky and I'm a Pisces I love computers and hot tamales
> 
> Hey, I'm Kate and I am a Taurus I love tomatoes and black-capped chickadees
> 
> Hey, my name is Keith and I'm a Scorpio from Athens, GA and I like to find 
> the essence from within
> 
> On Oct 25, 2018 4:29 AM, "Marsel van der Wielen"  > wrote:
> 
> hi there -
> 
> I'm Marsel and since I'm 15 I trying to complete my Transmat record 
> collection - although since I yet didn't manage to 100% complete it, I 
> started a label -
> and now we're doing a re-issue of MS-31 -> 
> https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6196/indio/inca-ep 
>  - (although I now 
> see we still have track B2 wrong... :-/
> 
> also after 25 years I still didn't find out how to unsubscribe from this 
> list, but luckily there still pleny of those same other 40+ aged people who 
> didn't
> 
> and of course I've got a print from both Alan Oldham and Abdul Qadim Haqq on 
> my wall - I also already purchased another cover of Abdul, but we don't have 
> a release yet - ideas welcome
> oh, and for who didn't notice, Transmat just released three new releases this 
> summer - wasn't really impressed to be honest
> and they also did finally a proper re-issue of MS008
> 
> further more I think all techno artists should stop performing along with 
> complete orchestras,
> same as Derrick shouldn't have been in the studio with Dj Marcello and maybe 
> also not with Steve Hillage,
> like Ashley Beedle shouldn't have remixed String Of Life,
> maybe remixes should be forbidden anyways (i.e. Luciano remixing Model 500's 
> No UFO's)
> and I never had, but now eagerly want a Red Planet t-shirt

Re: New subscribers?

[Ronny Pries (rktic)]

Hello new'- and old'sters.

Was just wondering if I ever „properly" introduced myself here. Apart from „Hi, 
I’m Ronny. I like Techno.“

The recent Drexciya thread, articles and thoughts made me think. You know, I’m 
a caucasian, born and raised around Hamburg/Germany. Hence my personal 
experience of being a victim of racism is about zero. Then again, being a 
german, you’ve got to reflect about these things. Imho. 

Crap, this is awkward. I have no concept about what it feels like to be 
historically oppressed because of the color of skin. Neither was I raised in 
economical circumstances as close as those found in Detroit. The weight or 
burden of that combination I can at best try to imagine or feel. This is a 
tough topic for a cultural ‚bystander‘ wanting to approach it in the most 
respectful way possible.

What I do have a personal experience with:
Living with Angst or anxiety if you will. Being risen to function, showing good 
manners on the surface. Avoid looking inside by any means. Getting a good whack 
of post-WW2 parenting.

For long I thought Techno mainly appealed to me because my parents didn’t get 
it. But that’s not an emotional response, right. What I found in Techno was a 
strong sense of place. Where I was allowed to breathe, think and feel. True 
freedom.

So, I’m aware that if I say „I kinda get it“ it’s still lacking cultural 
background. Yet, where can one draw a line? And can anyone relate at all?

Just thinking out loud
Ronny



> Am 22.10.2018 um 03:08 schrieb Edward Thompson :
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon., 22 Oct. 2018, 10:51 am Aidan O'Doherty,  > wrote:
> Bloody hell, what's with all the traffic? You wait ages on a bus, then all of 
> a sudden loads of 313s arrive! 
> 
> Welcome aboard, Matt Deegan. This list has been a desert of discourse for a 
> very long time, until the last few days. 
> 
> My name is Aidan O'Doherty, from Dublin, Ireland. I am simply an electronic 
> music fan, an erstwhile record collector (used to have an extensive 
> collection, mostly sold) and hobbyist DJ who loves a lot of techno/house 
> music that has and still comes out of Detroit or is clearly inspired by the 
> city. 
> 
> I have been on this list for 18 or 19 years and have never unsubscribed 
> despite the serious drought in content over the last few years. 
> 
> I am usually a lurker, therefore not aiding with content, but did inspire a 
> poll years ago (top five Detroit tracks) that Delsin's Marsel van der Wielen 
> put on the NoMoreWords site (everyone's individual choices were kept there), 
> which is gone now, or rather, transformed.
> 
> Most of the communications on the list are civil (not always in the past), 
> don't remember much in the way of racism, but my memory could be selective. 
> Denise, feel free to call me a potato-eating, alcoholic Paddy anytime you 
> want, I won't be offended, because it's all true.
> 
> Glad to see names popping up again that I haven't heard from in ages.
> 
> Yours in music,
> Aidan
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat 20 Oct 2018, 13:02 ,  > wrote:
> Introductions. 
> 
> I’m Denise Dalphond. I wrote my dissertation on Detroit techno and house 
> music in 2014 after spending three years doing research and conducting 
> interviews with techno kings and queens in Detroit. I write about music and 
> activism at schoolcraftwax.work . I’ve published 
> a lot about Detroit electronic music. My CV is on my website. 
> 
> In 2006, I organized and led the Roots of Techno conference at Indiana 
> University. Panelists were Theo Parrish, Terrence Parker, Rick Wilhite, 
> Marcellus Pittman, Minx, Mike Clark, Cornelius Harris, and two rad people 
> from the Detroit Historical Museum. 
> 
> The Archives of African American Music and Culture at Indiana University is 
> where the video recordings of the conference are housed, as well as my 
> research materials and interview recordings. 
> 
> I was co-founder if the Detroit Sound Conservancy with Carleton Gholz. 
> Together, we hosted educational tours of Submerge, created the Dan Sicko 
> scholarship for new Detroit journalists, and made plans for cultural 
> preservation in Detroit music culture. 
> 
> I often make sure no one is being racist, but that’s been near impossible on 
> this listserv. They think I’ll stop. 
> 
> I don’t make music because my time is full with my three kids and everything 
> else. I’m not a DJ because I would forget and start dancing and make the 
> needle jump. I do want to play on a modular synth someday. 
> 
> Thanks for joining this listserv!
> Denise Dalphond
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 20, 2018, at 07:38, Matt Deegan  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> With that in mind I reckon I should introduce myself. 
>> 
>> My name is Matt Deegan and I'm an electronic music producer from the UK with 
>> a focus on techno. I've been involved in music in various forms over the 
>> years 

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

[Ronny Pries (rktic)]

Do I understand correctly that RA used your interview without clearance, Andrew?

> Am 18.10.2018 um 18:25 schrieb denisedalph...@gmail.com:
> 
> We should hear the voice of a Black Detroiter narrating about Detroit music. 
> How often does that happen. That doesn’t communicate that the music is only 
> for people of color. White people are never excluded from anything. And in 
> 2018, unintentional? Please.
> 
> Luis Manuel Garcia writes amazing pieces about intersectionality in club 
> culture for RA. They have the information, they’re just choosing to be old 
> grampas about it. 
> 
> On Oct 18, 2018, at 11:56, Steven Robertson  > wrote:
> 
>> As a white person who grew up in Scotland, listening to Public Enemy, and 
>> Paris, and reading the biography of Malcolm X, I don't exactly feel 
>> comfortable making comment here. I think here there's clearly a lack of 
>> sensitivity. It is likely to be unintentional, and in the case of the 
>> unattributed source, they have at least corrected this soon after the issue 
>> was raised publicly in the past few days.
>> 
>> I appreciate that race and racism have a lot to do with the Drexciya story 
>> and UR. However, I do feel that the assertion here that it is _all_ about 
>> race and racism, should be challenged. There is a cultural context which is 
>> certainly important to remember. It's worth remembering too those that were 
>> lost in such terrible conditions on their way to America. I would argue that 
>> the music is not all about race and racism. The music has a soul and that 
>> soul is humanist, not racist. It's not racist towards white people from 
>> Europe. Drexciya stands against slavery. We are all human beings. We are 
>> each responsible to our own behaviour, and our shared futures. The music 
>> transcends race and racism. We fight the power, and the slavers wherever 
>> they may be. Drawing a line in the sand and saying that you don't belong 
>> here is not quite what I think is intended by the music either. We are all 
>> belong to the sea in some way. It's the strongest idea about it I feel.
>> 
>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018, at 4:14 PM, Andrew Duke wrote:
>>> Sigh. I am absolutely disgusted by RA's handling of this at time of 
>>> publishing and since. Denise makes great points. Liz Copeland's interview 
>>> with James Stinson is also used. I am tired and cranky and thus this post 
>>> ain't eloquent. Someone just sent me this link (below) re RA that was 
>>> published Oct 11, just a few days before the original--uncredited--Drexciya 
>>> feature. The linked feature on RA is especially relevant re the mess they 
>>> made this week and how the concerns of Denise and others were ignored and 
>>> 313-moderator Kent's concerns "downvoted":
>>> https://telegra.ph/Precedent-Advisor-10-11 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018, 11:12 AM Denise Dalphond, >> > wrote:
>>> I told RA what I thought. They ignored me. That's what usually happens.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.
>>> ethnomusicologist
>>> schoolcraftwax.work 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:11 AM Callum MacGregor 
>>> mailto:callum.macgre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> What about redubbing the audio with you narrating? Make a corrected 
>>> version 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018, 16:06 Denise Dalphond, >> > wrote:
>>> I love Drexciya. And it's really cool to be able to hear from James Stinson 
>>> still in 2018, thanks to Andrew Duke. And it's pretty amazing that Andrew 
>>> Duke did that interview. It's a priceless artifact. I could go on!
>>> 
>>> Resident Advisor didn't credit Andrew Duke when they first posted the 
>>> video, and why is there a white woman's british voice narrating? It's off 
>>> putting. They're using the voice of the colonizer to tell the story of 
>>> brilliant, musical escape from enslavement and forced labor. Escape from 
>>> the colonizer. 
>>> 
>>> Oh here goes Denise, making everything about race. But this actually all 
>>> the way super duper is all about race and racism. 
>>> 
>>> And how much electronic music culture coverage is based in europe, the 
>>> birthplace of imperialism and colonialism?  A lot. 
>>> 
>>> Music fans and writers should be more concerned about preserving and 
>>> protecting and respecting the culture that made this music. 
>>> 
>>> Why didn't they ask Cornelius Harris to narrate? Why didn't they ask John 
>>> Collins to narrate? That would be meaningful to artists and fans alike.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Denise
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.
>>> ethnomusicologist
>>> schoolcraftwax.work 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:47 AM Jeff Davis >> > wrote:
>>> Pretty sure most of you saw this already but I thought this short
>>> video did a good job encapsulating and contextualizing the concepts
>>>