RE: [313] Portal

[Sarahdv2]

I know of a certain venue in Manchester, UK who were forced to serve alcohol 
because the icepops and evian image got them in trouble with the police and a 
reputation for being a 'problem' club. 

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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:36:53 -0500 
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kyle J Dupuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Portal
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wow, an alcohol free venue...that just wouldn't survive over here (which
is more the pity really)...interesting

and yes i am aware the paradise garage and studio 54 (and the warehouse?)
were alcohol free

PG> So is Vinyl in NYC where the infamouse Body and Soul party resides. It's
also home to the weekly Danny Tenaglia party. The no alcohol rule keeps all
the drunk bridge and tunnel arses out. Great idea there should be more
venues like this.

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Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

[Sarahdv2]

France was only hauled out of musical obscurity in the 90's thru UK label 
managers and the music press 'discovering' Daft Punk et al, Garnier is known 
because he played the Hacienda, otherwise they were never supported in their 
home country.  Jacques Lu Cont of Les Rythmes Digitales is actually English - 
and rode on the crest of this french touch mania in England.

Paradoxically UK techno DJs and producers tend to be passed over in the UK in 
favour of international players and are appreciated more in mainstream Europe.

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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 13:37:30 -0500
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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Subject: Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!
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I feel to many Americans, movements would seem more exotic, 'cooler', 
and unique' if it came from the UK.  Its just the way it is, I guess.

g.

Dan Sicko wrote:

> Speaking to the "Why S&D and not Juan?" issue directly, I'd just like 
> to offer up the strange infatuation the US media holds for UK pop 
> culture exports (I know this term is a bit of the large blanket 
> variety) ...
>
> I think often times a "movement" seems that much more legitimate to 
> the US (and I mean the lowest common denominator US) when it comes 
> back to us through a UK prism.
>
> Inferiority complex?  Just another obstacle to overcome?
>
> -d
>
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