Re: First Visit to Detroit
Nice one, thanks!Yes, food is also something we’re looking forward toOn 19 Jan 2024, at 16:18, Daniel Bean wrote:Street Corner Records up on Greenfield.Worth noting that Detroit is a great food city too, whether it's Mexican, Middle Eastern, Greek, Polish or whatever, though most spots in Greektown itself probably best avoided I suspect.On Fri, 19 Jan 2024, 16:12 Shaun Fogarty, <fogg...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi all, a group of 4 of us are heading over from England to Detroit for 1 week for Movement this May. Have you guys got any suggestions for good places for the techno lover / art lover to go whilst there? We're thinking of Third Man and Submerge for example. We would also like to see the city. Thanks a million, Shaun.
First Visit to Detroit
Hi all, a group of 4 of us are heading over from England to Detroit for 1 week for Movement this May. Have you guys got any suggestions for good places for the techno lover / art lover to go whilst there? We're thinking of Third Man and Submerge for example. We would also like to see the city. Thanks a million, Shaun.
Re: Books on Detriot Techno
Nice one, I will try to have a read. On Fri, 28 Feb 2020, 19:02 Mario De Block, wrote: > hi > > I read good things about > https://www.abebooks.com/9783738604290/Klang-Familie-Felix-Denk-Sven-3738604294/plp. > It concentrates on the Berlin scene, but does zoom in to the link with > Detroit too, of course. I plan to buy it soon. > > And there's a chapter from Laurent Garnier's book that's on Detroit, which > you could read here: > https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jp4m78/read-the-detroit-techno-chapter-of-laurent-garniers-legendary-2003-book-electrochoc > . > > Ps: I just hope we can maintain a decent exchange on the board from now > on. If no real explicit "moderator" ss is there (and apt appreciation to > Kent for maintaining this board, still), we all should just moderate > ourselves a little. > I found myself upset a bit too much as well maybe, by a few raw and > offensive tones of late. > > Mario > > -- > *Van:* David Mansfield > *Verzonden:* vrijdag 28 februari 2020 19:34 > *Aan:* 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> > *Onderwerp:* Books on Detriot Techno > > Hello Everyone, > > I have read Dan Sicko's Techno Rebels and enjoyed it. I was wondering if > anyone knows of any other informative books on Detroit techno I could check > out. > > Thanks! >
Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater
What a fantastic discussion. I am inspired to spin some Drexciya later when I get to sit down. Maybe I’ll try to think more deeply about the context of the music. Cheers, Shaun (England) On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 19:28, David A. Powers wrote: > 1. Stealing by RA is terrible. Remember that along with the fact of black > innovators not getting credit, there is an even more common story of > exploitation in the music industry: musicians and creators who get ripped > off, whether it's theft by a manager, record labels stealing, or this > current example. This kind of exploitation goes on all the time, and I do > believe musicians, writers, and artists, need to work to take whatever > steps they can to stop such theft. Let me tell you, I lived in the D, if > someone steals from you there, they better be prepared to get their ass > beat. I'm just saying... > > 2. It's racist to make assumptions about race and cultural background > based on someone's accent. > > 3. All civilized societies to this day, use slave labor in some forms. In > the global economy, slavery is simply pushed to the margins: slaves still > work in mines to get stuff that goes into our high tech gadgets. As long as > civilization uses slaves, there are going to be ideologies that justify the > exploitation. US racism is rooted in the history of slavery, but also in > the economic competition between north and south, and the fact that the > industrialized north didn't need slave labor because it had found a more > efficient way to exploit human labor. > > 4. The meaning of work, slavery, and exploitation is going to change in a > society run by machines. > > And #4 is why Drexciya and techno are relevant--we live in a society of > machines, and slave labor is embedded in the very machines we use to > communicate with each other and to create techno music. > > Drexciya's music reflects the experience of the people who made it, > including being black, growing up in Detroit, the history of US slavery and > racism, etc. But SLAVERY is not a "black issue" it's a human issue, which > is explored from a particular viewpoint rooted in a particular cultural > experience. > > Music is not ABOUT ideas. Music is a living experience that cannot be put > into words. > If it could be put into words, then the music would actually be redundant! > If you want ideas, read a book. > The experience of listening to a Drexciya record is totally different than > talking about it. > Nothing you could say about a Drexciya record, would exhaust the potential > wealth of meanings and experience that the record contains. > Art is open ended, that's what makes it art and not propaganda... > > > ~David > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:52 PM Steven Robertson > wrote: > >> I'm all for positive discrimination. In order to achieve any sense of >> equality, it has to be done. It's the way to correct things. >> >> RA is a London-based website so far as I know. London is an international >> city whose residents are less racist than average. It seems that the most >> racist parts of the world are the parts with the least amount of diversity. >> This obviously because when you live and work with people from all over the >> world you see them as human beings. The narrator could be black, but from >> London. >> >> Not giving credit, clearly is unprofessional. The accent of the narrator, >> I don't think is a problem. I'd love to see and hear more talk of Detroit >> music from Detroiters, and for Drexciya specifically, well - an African >> accent could be perfect. >> >> I do wonder if race and racism entirely an artificial idea, that it is >> really down to a tribalism. It's something I think is often used to >> manipulate people in times of war (or conquest), and to sow division. Isn't >> race more a colonial idea, to justify the theft of land from its native >> people? These days we should know that we're all the same race, and that >> there are so many colours. Nobody is simply white or black. There is no >> black or white. Except, where positive discrimination is due. >> >> I'm lucky never to have experienced racial discrimination. I've rarely >> seen any racism, and certainly less as time goes by. However, things could >> change, but I'm thankful to live somewhere there is very little of this, >> with respect to people from many places. Things have been sliding backwards >> though, throughout Europe. Still, Europeans are not responsible for racism >> in the US. There are people that are responsible, and you'll find them in >> positions of power, using it as a tool, a method of control. IMHO. >> >> I'd be really disappointed if the music was _all_ about race and racism. >> I don't think that's a fair representation. >> >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018, at 5:25 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> We should hear the voice of a Black Detroiter narrating about Detroit >> music. How often does that happen. That doesn’t communicate that the music >> is only for people of color. White
Re: (313) Ask 313
Irdial stuff in general... Sometimes odd but good Placid pla...@acid-house.net wrote: Rugalach by aqua regia. One of my all time faves Sent from my iPhone On 4 Dec 2012, at 22:09, Michael Elliot-Knight melliotkni...@gmail.com wrote: lol - yeah, I was searching back through older things that some might not know about since they weren't around in '96 MEK On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:41 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Haha Michael -- TELL IT TO THE IDM LIST CIRCA 1996. But seriously I own a bunch of those records and/or CDs. On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Michael Elliot-Knight melliotkni...@gmail.com wrote: As for heady I usually like a good Mixmaster Morris/Irresistible Force track or remix the Leaf label is pretty good, as well as ~scape records Jonah Sharp's Reflective Records had some really cool stuff - ambient to techno like Velocette who also had the Parallel record label MEK On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Michael Elliot-Knight melliotkni...@gmail.com wrote: Bunch of old lables that many newer fans of Detroit techno may not know about because they aren't in business anymore. Also some obscure artists. Not sure if other people don't rate them highly or if they just don't get talked about much anymore. Insync/Lee Purkis/10th Planet stuff Nubian Mindz Wild Planet/Simon J. Hartley 4th Wave records - Wavescape, Downlink, Ian O'Brien Max Brennan Andi Hart/Deepart Dominic Stanton/Domu/Yotoko DiN records Eevo Lute records Jay Denham Elypsia records Santonio Echols Susumu Yokota Hydrogen Dukebox records LA Synthesis Lux Nigra records Aubrey/Allen Saei Jimi Tenor Jonathan Saul Kane/Depth Charge/Octagon Man and his D.C. Recordings label MEK On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Shaun Fogarty fogg...@gmail.com wrote: Also Neuropolitique now the screens were, and Anokhi by Beaumont Hannant... Pushing the definition a bit, admittedly kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: OK, now that we've established that lurkers know how to send e-mail to the list ... This is an idea for a mix I'd like to do. Here's the question: What is your favorite techno that no one else seems to rate highly? Extra points for being obscure. What's my impetus? I buy a lot of records at thrift stores and from crawling around in the crates on the floor at Dave's in Chicago. I look for things that might be OK based on producer, remixer and artists. So I have a lot of records that have decent to excellent tracks on them, that for one reason or another never got much enduring attention. Since I can't crate dig in Detroit very often, I'm looking for those sorts of things, after which i can engage in Internet searchage. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: (313) Ask 313
+1 for Ifach... Their compilation album had some lovely tunes on it... It was the soundtrack to our Christmas dinner back in the day :) benny blanco® be...@blancodisco.com wrote: Okay, I'll bite. I always dug the 'Obscure' Pure Plastic / A13 sounds from Mark Broom/Dave Hill camp in the UK from the 90's. Not always 'detroit', but certainly techno and sometimes a nice downtempo breaky track in there too. Some Other Label Faves Pacific Records and Ifach benny blanco® blancodisco.com On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:23 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.comwrote: OK, now that we've established that lurkers know how to send e-mail to the list ... This is an idea for a mix I'd like to do. Here's the question: What is your favorite techno that no one else seems to rate highly? Extra points for being obscure. What's my impetus? I buy a lot of records at thrift stores and from crawling around in the crates on the floor at Dave's in Chicago. I look for things that might be OK based on producer, remixer and artists. So I have a lot of records that have decent to excellent tracks on them, that for one reason or another never got much enduring attention. Since I can't crate dig in Detroit very often, I'm looking for those sorts of things, after which i can engage in Internet searchage. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: (313) Ask 313
Also Neuropolitique now the screens were, and Anokhi by Beaumont Hannant... Pushing the definition a bit, admittedly kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: OK, now that we've established that lurkers know how to send e-mail to the list ... This is an idea for a mix I'd like to do. Here's the question: What is your favorite techno that no one else seems to rate highly? Extra points for being obscure. What's my impetus? I buy a lot of records at thrift stores and from crawling around in the crates on the floor at Dave's in Chicago. I look for things that might be OK based on producer, remixer and artists. So I have a lot of records that have decent to excellent tracks on them, that for one reason or another never got much enduring attention. Since I can't crate dig in Detroit very often, I'm looking for those sorts of things, after which i can engage in Internet searchage. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: (313) roll call?
Been lurking in Leeds (UK) for some years now, I forget. Great source of information and mixes. Keep the Faith :) Cheers, Shaun. On 28 November 2012 14:19, Benn Glazier bennglaz...@gmail.com wrote: Still here - resubbed a couple years back after leaving the list for several years during the high noise period. In NYC this week and back to London next week. -- Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com http://www.bennglazier.com/ www.twitter.com/BennGlazier +44 (0) 7714 3000 18 On 28 Nov 2012, at 06:57, maxphi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin. Anyone else? m50 At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote: how many subscribers are left anyway? and will there be a 20 years anniversary party? Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef: btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's good to be back!
Re: (313) DEMF 2012 Post-Op
I would sooo love to go to this... on the wrong side of the pond though unfortunately... better get saving for next year :) Cheers, F. On 29 May 2012 20:05, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: Couldn't make it this year. What's the verdict? Festival proper, weak or good? Afterparties better as usual? Standout sets? -Art
Re: (313) A Midsummer's Night mix Deepness
Thanks so much for this, I've really enjoyed listening to it. Actually b*llocks, I'm going to put it on again. Cheers, Shaun. On 3 October 2011 20:34, Placid pla...@acid-house.net wrote: A midsummers Night Mix because we have such an abysmal summer, the powers that be take pity one week a year and let us enjoy warmth and the feeling of summer that the rest of Europe enjoys for months on end just before the icy snap sets in and condoms us to darkness and cold for the next six months… anyway..recorded on Sept 29th, windows open and was really, quite a pleasant experience… The mix can be downloaded here - http://www.acid-house.net/Placid_midsummer.mp3 THe tracklist can be found here - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Placid/191249620933551 (for those not on Facebook - ill post it up in due course) Had a bit of a meltdown at the end… and its a bit rough in places but errrm thats how I roll :)
