Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of midi control

2003-08-03 Thread ::P
shawn,

bad.

love
-Joe


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From: "Shawn Hatfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> rhymes with "Joe"
> 
> 
> On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 01:48  PM, ::P wrote:
> 
> > hoe
> 


Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of midi control

2003-08-02 Thread Shawn Hatfield

rhymes with "Joe"


On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 01:48  PM, ::P wrote:


hoe




Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of midi control

2003-08-02 Thread Shawn Hatfield
why must everything shatter earth? why can't things just be enjoyable 
and fun? :)
i'd use this for a live performance. i'd definitely like to have one 
for my studio.


_twerk

On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 12:36  PM, ::P wrote:



One of the guys that did it is on IDM and he's a nice guy. I'm not
saying that it isn't cool looking. All I'm saying is that it's nothing
earth shattering.




Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of midi control

2003-08-02 Thread ::P
well a couple differences...

its not like a touchscreen really, as a touchscreen cannot track 2 seperate
points of contact.  furthermore, the audiopad is not touch sensetive, but
rather the position of the objects are "magnetically" tracked and the GUI is
projected onto the board based on the object positions.

its a new technology that james patten has developed as part of his research
at mit

-Joe


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Subject: Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of midi control


> It's a nice proof of concept, but the fact that it doesn't really
> make performing any easier, more intuitive or more expressive is what
> disappoints me.  Furthermore, it's just a slightly different way
> of doing a touchscreen, which is old news.
>
> One of the guys that did it is on IDM and he's a nice guy. I'm not
> saying that it isn't cool looking. All I'm saying is that it's nothing
> earth shattering.
>
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Ok it might not be all that earth-shattering from a _programming_ level
but
> > from an _interactive/performance presentation_ level I do think it will
> > open doors to "the next step".
>



Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of midi control

2003-08-02 Thread lisa

I agree. Think about how fun it might be to DJ using that concept.

lisa


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IMO it's pretty forward thinking

MEK






Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of midi control

2003-08-01 Thread Ian
On 8/1/03 6:34 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> would you rather:
> 
> a) watch someone sit behind a grey laptop
 
I'm sure you meant to say Titanium laptop.   ;-)

I understand Kent's point, but the news here is that there is an obvious
connection between the way the performer manipulates the interface, and the
resultant sound.  This connection is lost when there is only a small GUI,
and it's pointed away from the audience.

I'm sure there are a LOT of ways you could achieve this connection.
-- 
im



Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of midi control

2003-08-01 Thread Kent williams
It's a nice proof of concept, but the fact that it doesn't really
make performing any easier, more intuitive or more expressive is what
disappoints me.  Furthermore, it's just a slightly different way
of doing a touchscreen, which is old news.

One of the guys that did it is on IDM and he's a nice guy. I'm not
saying that it isn't cool looking. All I'm saying is that it's nothing
earth shattering.

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Ok it might not be all that earth-shattering from a _programming_ level but
> from an _interactive/performance presentation_ level I do think it will
> open doors to "the next step".



Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of midi control

2003-08-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Ok it might not be all that earth-shattering from a _programming_ level but
from an _interactive/performance presentation_ level I do think it will
open doors to "the next step".
Imagine having these pads all over a room where people could walk up and
remix/mix your music live. It's intuitive - more so than most computer
interfaces.

The colored lights aspect does make it hell of a lot more fun to watch and,
I would think, to use - I would imagine it would satisfy/stimulate the
tactile/sensory parts of your brain.
And come on - it's very futuristic in appearance.

I'd like to know - if you had a choice of watching the *exact same musical
performance*, would you rather:

a) watch someone sit behind a grey laptop where you could not see the
manipulations and they moved very little if at all

or

b) watch someone control the music using this device and could see what
they were doing and with color, shape, and movement represent the musical
elements


it's like when Kraftwerk comes out from behind their stands to play "Pocket
Calculator" - they could easily stay back but it's the presentation that
makes the difference. And people look forward to that moment.

music - like all art - relies on its presentation

IMO it's pretty forward thinking

MEK




 
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Everyone gets really excited about this, but really, using this
is no different than a faderbox, except for the pretty colored lights.
As someone who actually plays live with computers, I'd think the
main attraction is to associate some physical activity and colored
lights with what are really conventional manipulations of musical
elements.

And technically, it's some sort of magnetic sensor grid, that outputs
the position of 3 or 4 pucks.  There's nothing that exciting or
cutting edge about the programming either.  It's a cool grad-student
project but nothing earth-shattering.

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> solves the problem of "boring" laptop performances
>
> really amazing
> http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,59837,00.html
>
>
>
> link to video download of Audiopad in action (with very cool music)
> http://www.wired.com/news/mediaplayer/0,2108,59779,00.html
>

kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of midi control

2003-08-01 Thread garrett
glad someone said that.  i agree it's pretty cool, but compared to all the
media it's getting, i just don't get it.

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From: "Kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313 list" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of midi control


> Everyone gets really excited about this, but really, using this
> is no different than a faderbox, except for the pretty colored lights.
> As someone who actually plays live with computers, I'd think the
> main attraction is to associate some physical activity and colored
> lights with what are really conventional manipulations of musical
> elements.
>
> And technically, it's some sort of magnetic sensor grid, that outputs
> the position of 3 or 4 pucks.  There's nothing that exciting or
> cutting edge about the programming either.  It's a cool grad-student
> project but nothing earth-shattering.
>
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > solves the problem of "boring" laptop performances
> >
> > really amazing
> > http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,59837,00.html
> >
> >
> >
> > link to video download of Audiopad in action (with very cool music)
> > http://www.wired.com/news/mediaplayer/0,2108,59779,00.html
> >
>
> kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.cornwarning.com -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label
> http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes
>



Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of midi control

2003-08-01 Thread Kent williams
Everyone gets really excited about this, but really, using this
is no different than a faderbox, except for the pretty colored lights.
As someone who actually plays live with computers, I'd think the
main attraction is to associate some physical activity and colored
lights with what are really conventional manipulations of musical
elements.

And technically, it's some sort of magnetic sensor grid, that outputs
the position of 3 or 4 pucks.  There's nothing that exciting or
cutting edge about the programming either.  It's a cool grad-student
project but nothing earth-shattering.

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> solves the problem of "boring" laptop performances
>
> really amazing
> http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,59837,00.html
>
>
>
> link to video download of Audiopad in action (with very cool music)
> http://www.wired.com/news/mediaplayer/0,2108,59779,00.html
>

kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cornwarning.com -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label
http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes




(313) Audiopad - meet the future of midi control

2003-08-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




solves the problem of "boring" laptop performances

really amazing
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,59837,00.html



link to video download of Audiopad in action (with very cool music)
http://www.wired.com/news/mediaplayer/0,2108,59779,00.html