Re: (313) Before Techno
This compilation is basic, Ron Hardy Classics !! Secret History -- Classic 80s Electronic Dance .EMI A much-needed look at the now "secret" years of crossover electronics on the dancefloor -- featuring a range of tunes from the early 80s, both underground and popular! The set's a bit gutsier than the few others that have explored this territory -- in that it's not afraid to throw in some of the more chartbound numbers from the day, a great move, considering how striking all of these songs still sound to our ears today. By magically skirting through a world that includes both Alexander Robotnick and Paul McCartney, the package really lives up to its "secret" promise -- by delivering tunes with links that we hardly would have noticed! Titles include "Peut Etre Pas" by Liaison Dangereuses, "Problemes D'Amour" by Alexander Robotnick, "Frequency 7" by Visage, "Temporary Secretary" by Paul McCartney, "Brainwash" by Telex, "Hypnotic Tango" by My Mine, "Wonderful" by Klein & MBO, "IC Love Affair" by Gaz Nevada, and "Secret Life" by Material.
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for more fad gadget, my favourite was always 'back to nature'. but haven't
heard it for years-might be more rock than electronic. twas a sad day that
little 7inch melted in the hot australian sun.
it was very sad to learn of his death last(?) year.
james
Matt MacQueen
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>> pre-techno/industrial/synth acts to look for
> der plan (crazy!)
> grauzone
JT, where to start with these guys? I only know 'film 2' by
grauzone... but love it (can't find for a price i can afford,
either...)
> fad gadget
'ladyshave' is awesome... syncopated synth and drum machine sounds...
what else to check out?
peace,
--
Matt MacQueen
http://sonicsunset.com
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pre-techno/industrial/synth acts to look for der plan (crazy!) grauzone JT, where to start with these guys? I only know 'film 2' by grauzone... but love it (can't find for a price i can afford, either...) fad gadget 'ladyshave' is awesome... syncopated synth and drum machine sounds... what else to check out? peace, -- Matt MacQueen http://sonicsunset.com
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It could be so easy: KRAFTWERK -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2003 11:47 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: (313) Before Techno Of Course you need to add: Cabs Human League BEF Throbbing Gristle The Future Stan Bingo Chakk Hula Clock DVA Nurse With Wound Whitehouse Current 93 Zoskia Silicon Teens Lashtal Death in June Meat Beat Manifesto NON Monte Cazzaza The Danse Society Uvpop Better stop I could go on for days... 16/12/03 8:40 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fallon.com > > > > > haven't been following this thread but here's my list of > pre-techno/industrial/synth acts to look for > > Big Black - the first "hardcore punk" band with a drum machine? (also check > out My Dad is Dead for a one man band w/drum machine) > Sonic Youth > Test Dept. > Foetus - "Nail" and "Hole" > Suicide > Wire > The Normal > Virgin Prunes > Ultravox > Zoviet France > Yello > The Beatnigs - and Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy > Thomas Dolby > Negativland & The Residents > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > zuz.com> To: 313@hyperreal.org > cc: > 12/16/03 01:39 PMSubject: Re: (313) Before Techno > > > > > > > good early electronic music comps. > > v/a: vhutemas archetypi (must have) > http://www.discogs.com/release/115922 > > v/a: the tyranny of the beat (must have) > http://www.discogs.com/release/98808 > > v/a: blackbox- waxtrax records first thirteen years (must have) > http://www.discogs.com/release/66895 > > v/a: the very best of the industrial revoltion (must have) > http://www.discogs.com/release/97211 > > v/a: Nervous systems (must have) > http://www.discogs.com/release/50661 > > most of these comps are out of print. but can be found, i wish i still > had mine, they were stolen when i loaned them to a friend. > > > > >
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> btw, what is the DAF/Liasons Dangereuses connection? > someone told me once, but I can't remember. was one guy from L.D in DAF > too? Former bass player of DAF founded LD. Dr. Nutcracker
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Of Course you need to add: Cabs Human League BEF Throbbing Gristle The Future Stan Bingo Chakk Hula Clock DVA Nurse With Wound Whitehouse Current 93 Zoskia Silicon Teens Lashtal Death in June Meat Beat Manifesto NON Monte Cazzaza The Danse Society Uvpop Better stop I could go on for days... 16/12/03 8:40 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fallon.com > > > > > haven't been following this thread but here's my list of > pre-techno/industrial/synth acts to look for > > Big Black - the first "hardcore punk" band with a drum machine? (also check > out My Dad is Dead for a one man band w/drum machine) > Sonic Youth > Test Dept. > Foetus - "Nail" and "Hole" > Suicide > Wire > The Normal > Virgin Prunes > Ultravox > Zoviet France > Yello > The Beatnigs - and Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy > Thomas Dolby > Negativland & The Residents > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > zuz.com> To: 313@hyperreal.org > cc: > 12/16/03 01:39 PMSubject: Re: (313) Before Techno > > > > > > > good early electronic music comps. > > v/a: vhutemas archetypi (must have) > http://www.discogs.com/release/115922 > > v/a: the tyranny of the beat (must have) > http://www.discogs.com/release/98808 > > v/a: blackbox- waxtrax records first thirteen years (must have) > http://www.discogs.com/release/66895 > > v/a: the very best of the industrial revoltion (must have) > http://www.discogs.com/release/97211 > > v/a: Nervous systems (must have) > http://www.discogs.com/release/50661 > > most of these comps are out of print. but can be found, i wish i still > had mine, they were stolen when i loaned them to a friend. > > > > >
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>Conny Plank used to be a carpenter no way! cool name for a carpenter. he also of course produced Liasons Dangereuses. btw, what is the DAF/Liasons Dangereuses connection? someone told me once, but I can't remember. was one guy from L.D in DAF too? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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For me all Conny Plank was involved with is the stuff I want... Conny Plank used to be a carpenter, way before he started his own studio. An inventive producer and engineer with a touch of his own... Working in the 40's for Marlene Dietrich but it was until he started working for Kraftwerk he really got into what you all are calling 'before Techno'. Being involved with Can, DAF, Devo, Grobschnitt, Guru Guru, Killing Joke, Kraan, Neu!, Ultravox, etc. and later got into the studio with Moebius and Brian Eno producing something I would call 'before Techno' in the late 70's early 80's like the most obvious one "Begegnungen". Most memorable recording I've ever heard was a tape recording of a jam session in the studio with Ultravox... distracts me immediatly when it is playing... A shame he is never mentioned... especially while this 80's revival is ruling the 'scene'. He was always def. in my recordbox when I used to do my radioshow... Dr. Nutcracker.
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At 22:37 16-12-2003, J. T. wrote: pre-techno/industrial/synth acts to look for i like later "kraut rock" kinda chit. err no more (suicide commando) from Belgium fad gadget aka Frank Tovey (rip) UK neon judgement from Belgium R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
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pre-techno/industrial/synth acts to look for i like later "kraut rock" kinda chit. like DAF der plan (crazy!) grauzone pyrolator no more (suicide commando) fad gadget neon judgement kinda industrial-new wave kinda stuff. you could mix some of it with italo and disco etc. and of course new wave. i kinda got the feeling this is the stuff you're after alex (it is you who originally asked wuddinit?) there's some good comps of this stuff around (like New Deutsche) but dunno if they're on vinyl...good huntin jt _ Grab our best dial-up Internet access offer: 6 months @$9.95/month. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
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haven't been following this thread but here's my list of
pre-techno/industrial/synth acts to look for
Big Black - the first "hardcore punk" band with a drum machine? (also check
out My Dad is Dead for a one man band w/drum machine)
Sonic Youth
Test Dept.
Foetus - "Nail" and "Hole"
Suicide
Wire
The Normal
Virgin Prunes
Ultravox
Zoviet France
Yello
The Beatnigs - and Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy
Thomas Dolby
Negativland & The Residents
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Techno
good early electronic music comps.
v/a: vhutemas archetypi (must have)
http://www.discogs.com/release/115922
v/a: the tyranny of the beat (must have)
http://www.discogs.com/release/98808
v/a: blackbox- waxtrax records first thirteen years (must have)
http://www.discogs.com/release/66895
v/a: the very best of the industrial revoltion (must have)
http://www.discogs.com/release/97211
v/a: Nervous systems (must have)
http://www.discogs.com/release/50661
most of these comps are out of print. but can be found, i wish i still
had mine, they were stolen when i loaned them to a friend.
Re: (313) Before Techno
good early electronic music comps. v/a: vhutemas archetypi (must have) http://www.discogs.com/release/115922 v/a: the tyranny of the beat (must have) http://www.discogs.com/release/98808 v/a: blackbox- waxtrax records first thirteen years (must have) http://www.discogs.com/release/66895 v/a: the very best of the industrial revoltion (must have) http://www.discogs.com/release/97211 v/a: Nervous systems (must have) http://www.discogs.com/release/50661 most of these comps are out of print. but can be found, i wish i still had mine, they were stolen when i loaned them to a friend.
(313) Before Techno
I was thinking last night about Alex's request for tracks from the Industrial period (even pre) and while lift down several crates from the loft last night I remembered this album...it's not for everyone but there's some good stuff on this 3 disc collection... Artist Various Artists Album OHM: The Early Gurus of Electronic Music This three-CD, 42-track compilation, spanning 1937-1982 (though largely comprised of performances from the '60s and '70s), includes pieces by many of the big names in experimental electronic music: John Cage, Pauline Oliveros, Steve Reich, Terry Riley, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Milton Babbitt, Laurie Spiegel, Robert Ashley, LaMonte Young, Morton Subotnick, and Iannis Xenakis. That alone would make this anthology impressive, but there are also contributions from composers who have made some impact with rock and pop recordings (Brian Eno, Klaus Schulze, Holger Czukay of Can, Jon Hassell), along with some names that are not commonly discussed in highbrow serious music circles (Raymond Scott), some composers not always associated with electronic music (Olivier Messiaen, Edgard Varese), and a host of names that aren't too well known beyond the avant-garde community. What is most impressive about this set, however, is that is not only serves as a reasonable overview of pre-1980 electronic music, but also is much more accessible in content to non-experts than many such compilations would have been. Contrary to the stereotype of serious electronic music as being difficult to listen to, many of the pieces are quite engaging for novices and electronic specialists alike. That's not to say there aren't plenty of more jarring or abstract pieces with minimal ambience or cut-up assemblages, or even occasional tracks that most listeners might find downright annoying (such as MEV's cacophonous "Spacecraft," mercifully placed at the very end of the first disc). On the whole, however, the set achieves the effect of both educating and entertaining, and is likely to expand the audience for a music that is too often unwilling to offer inviting introductions that might incite listeners to explore further. The 98-page booklet includes detailed track descriptions and comments, usually by the composers/performers themselves. Martin Dust
