Re: (313) Defining Detroit
I've set up a Discourse site in the hope that you may find it interesting or otherwise simply for my own personal curiosity. It's been a bit quiet around here and if Facebook is now where the conversations are then I'm also missing out. Maybe I've never found a better forum for music than the 313 list, but my personal interest is more generally underground electronic music, and UR as an inspiration. https://disco.k-os.net/ (Discourse @ K-os.net) Feel free to post your SoundCloud things there (it has support for embedding players too), if you want to (anything goes). I'll keep the site up if there's enough interest to keep it going. It's all set-up with email integration and good security for passwords etc, but also allowing folk to use Twitter or Google, or even Yahoo for authentication, and Facebook if I can get that to work. Currently Facebook login is disabled. This sits on it's own virtual dedicated server, supports mobile browsers and things. Worth evaluating if you are interested in that sort of thing. I'd help out if there's interest in setting something up specifically for 313. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:30 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.comwrote: I hear more from former and current 313 list people on Facebook than I do on 313 list. Just a sign of the times. It's been almost 30 years since I got my first e-mail address, and not long after that I got on mailing lists so...maybe a technology that has been mostly superceded. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Philip McGarva philipmcga...@gmail.comwrote: This article kind of depressed me, as it's mostly about the past. Sure there are a few good new tracks on the Still Music comp, but it's patchy at best and not any kind of real development of the Detroit sound. This article won't change anything. Did DEMF / Movement make any difference to how actual house or techno are perceived or enjoyed by mainstream audiences? I doubt it. Plus it's now about 25 years since techno emerged - what makes anyone think that peeps will suddenly 'get' it? Are EDM kids (I guess they're kids) into music from that era? As a teen I sure wasn't much interested in music from the mid-'50s. It's great that the artists mentioned are still playing out and making the kind of great music they always have, but that would have happened regardless of the mainstream anyway. Just my 02 - this list is pretty quiet these days... p
RE: (313) Defining Detroit
I think that this list, along with trips to Youtube to watch old clips of The New Dance Show and The Scene are really the only things keeping me connected to Detroit nowadays. I haven't lived in SE michigan in nearly 11 years now and have yet to come back to visit. I don't have a FB or Twitter account (Myspace was it for me), so this list has kept me informed of new releases and whatnot. Just want to say thanks to everyone on here. From: Jójó [mailto:familiar...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 1:10 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Defining Detroit I've been a long time 313 subscriber. Then got a few years off, now I'm back. I must say I like the list to be low traffic, as it gets more specialized and not so noisy as it tended to be in the past. All in all, I must say the list has done a wonderful job of self-regulation. I guess in our hearts everyone knows the list allows for some freedom, and we try to use it wisely. It's still a pretty high quality list, in my opinion. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:30 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: I hear more from former and current 313 list people on Facebook than I do on 313 list. Just a sign of the times. It's been almost 30 years since I got my first e-mail address, and not long after that I got on mailing lists so...maybe a technology that has been mostly superceded. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Philip McGarva philipmcga...@gmail.com wrote: This article kind of depressed me, as it's mostly about the past. Sure there are a few good new tracks on the Still Music comp, but it's patchy at best and not any kind of real development of the Detroit sound. This article won't change anything. Did DEMF / Movement make any difference to how actual house or techno are perceived or enjoyed by mainstream audiences? I doubt it. Plus it's now about 25 years since techno emerged - what makes anyone think that peeps will suddenly 'get' it? Are EDM kids (I guess they're kids) into music from that era? As a teen I sure wasn't much interested in music from the mid-'50s. It's great that the artists mentioned are still playing out and making the kind of great music they always have, but that would have happened regardless of the mainstream anyway. Just my 02 - this list is pretty quiet these days... p
Re: (313) Defining Detroit
I've been a long time 313 subscriber. Then got a few years off, now I'm back. I must say I like the list to be low traffic, as it gets more specialized and not so noisy as it tended to be in the past. All in all, I must say the list has done a wonderful job of self-regulation. I guess in our hearts everyone knows the list allows for some freedom, and we try to use it wisely. It's still a pretty high quality list, in my opinion. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:30 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.comwrote: I hear more from former and current 313 list people on Facebook than I do on 313 list. Just a sign of the times. It's been almost 30 years since I got my first e-mail address, and not long after that I got on mailing lists so...maybe a technology that has been mostly superceded. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Philip McGarva philipmcga...@gmail.comwrote: This article kind of depressed me, as it's mostly about the past. Sure there are a few good new tracks on the Still Music comp, but it's patchy at best and not any kind of real development of the Detroit sound. This article won't change anything. Did DEMF / Movement make any difference to how actual house or techno are perceived or enjoyed by mainstream audiences? I doubt it. Plus it's now about 25 years since techno emerged - what makes anyone think that peeps will suddenly 'get' it? Are EDM kids (I guess they're kids) into music from that era? As a teen I sure wasn't much interested in music from the mid-'50s. It's great that the artists mentioned are still playing out and making the kind of great music they always have, but that would have happened regardless of the mainstream anyway. Just my 02 - this list is pretty quiet these days... p
Re: (313) Defining Detroit
I suspect mailing lists could still out-live Facebook. I hope so anyway, otherwise for something better ;) On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:30 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.comwrote: I hear more from former and current 313 list people on Facebook than I do on 313 list. Just a sign of the times. It's been almost 30 years since I got my first e-mail address, and not long after that I got on mailing lists so...maybe a technology that has been mostly superceded. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Philip McGarva philipmcga...@gmail.comwrote: This article kind of depressed me, as it's mostly about the past. Sure there are a few good new tracks on the Still Music comp, but it's patchy at best and not any kind of real development of the Detroit sound. This article won't change anything. Did DEMF / Movement make any difference to how actual house or techno are perceived or enjoyed by mainstream audiences? I doubt it. Plus it's now about 25 years since techno emerged - what makes anyone think that peeps will suddenly 'get' it? Are EDM kids (I guess they're kids) into music from that era? As a teen I sure wasn't much interested in music from the mid-'50s. It's great that the artists mentioned are still playing out and making the kind of great music they always have, but that would have happened regardless of the mainstream anyway. Just my 02 - this list is pretty quiet these days... p
Re: (313) Defining Detroit Techno Article
Thanks for sharing this, Wes. I enjoyed it. Michaelangelo did a nice job covering the history with the festival and I like how he rooted his music reviews in social and cultural commentary. Denise On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nzwrote: Worth a read, some interesting observations: http://www.npr.org/blogs/bestmusic2013/2013/12/31/258701743/defining-detroit-techno-the-retrospectives-and-reissues-of-2013 Cheers, Wes http://www.mixcloud.com/westonprince/ https://soundcloud.com/sea-shadow -- Denise Dalphond www.schoolcraftwax.com
Re: (313) Defining Detroit
I hear more from former and current 313 list people on Facebook than I do on 313 list. Just a sign of the times. It's been almost 30 years since I got my first e-mail address, and not long after that I got on mailing lists so...maybe a technology that has been mostly superceded. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Philip McGarva philipmcga...@gmail.comwrote: This article kind of depressed me, as it's mostly about the past. Sure there are a few good new tracks on the Still Music comp, but it's patchy at best and not any kind of real development of the Detroit sound. This article won't change anything. Did DEMF / Movement make any difference to how actual house or techno are perceived or enjoyed by mainstream audiences? I doubt it. Plus it's now about 25 years since techno emerged - what makes anyone think that peeps will suddenly 'get' it? Are EDM kids (I guess they're kids) into music from that era? As a teen I sure wasn't much interested in music from the mid-'50s. It's great that the artists mentioned are still playing out and making the kind of great music they always have, but that would have happened regardless of the mainstream anyway. Just my 02 - this list is pretty quiet these days... p
(313) Defining Detroit
This article kind of depressed me, as it's mostly about the past. Sure there are a few good new tracks on the Still Music comp, but it's patchy at best and not any kind of real development of the Detroit sound. This article won't change anything. Did DEMF / Movement make any difference to how actual house or techno are perceived or enjoyed by mainstream audiences? I doubt it. Plus it's now about 25 years since techno emerged - what makes anyone think that peeps will suddenly 'get' it? Are EDM kids (I guess they're kids) into music from that era? As a teen I sure wasn't much interested in music from the mid-'50s. It's great that the artists mentioned are still playing out and making the kind of great music they always have, but that would have happened regardless of the mainstream anyway. Just my 02 - this list is pretty quiet these days... p
(313) Defining Detroit Techno Article
Worth a read, some interesting observations: http://www.npr.org/blogs/bestmusic2013/2013/12/31/258701743/defining-detroit-techno-the-retrospectives-and-reissues-of-2013 Cheers, Wes http://www.mixcloud.com/westonprince/ https://soundcloud.com/sea-shadow
