(313) this thread sucks.

2008-09-09 Thread /0

look, I observed good netiquette!

:(

bring back the woomp


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From: 1-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad 
Mike interview)




Bigger problems in the world than 'netiquette'?!  Gedouttahere!

- Original Message - 
From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:41 PM
Subject: RE: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad 
Mike interview)



LOL!

You don't have to read it mate! Chill. There are bigger problems in this
world aren't there? :)

-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:40 PM
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)


I disagree.  I don't have any interest in reading about podcast laws and
regulations.  The original post was about a specific detroit related
thing that I wanted to keep track of for later, but now i have to read a
new email that has nothing to do with the op every time somebody
replies.  A subject change would easily fix this, and it's just good
netiquette.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

No big deal really - it's still related to the event, which was in
itself pretty unusual, as the post below points out.

-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:32 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)


people on this list need to learn how to change the subject lines
accordingly when the original intent of the post is lost.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:55 AM, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

BBC do exactly the same thing for podcasts of previously recorded
radio shows. A podcast is a download, not listened to live, it's not
a



performance licence that's required by Radio NZ. UR needs to be able
to collect for the use of their material from the listener, from the
downloader. And as RNZ aren't in the business of selling music, and
UR



aren't giving it away, all they can do is make available for downlaod



the material that they own the copyright to, which is the chat, not
the music. I think it's it's amazing he was interviewed at all by the



state broadcaster...I can't see BBC1 giving him 30 minutes during any



given day.

 essentially it's the listener who needs to  This proves once again
how NZ takes America's most trumped-up

regulations and makes them worse.

I know there are geeks in the house who will enjoy Peter Gutmann's
classic story about NZ regulation in the 1990s of digital
munitions, otherwise known as cryptographic keys, or, my life as a



Kiwi arms courier.

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/courier.html
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/wass99.html

fh


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To: 313@hyperreal.org
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Mitchell
Subject: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:20:16 +1200 (NZST)


They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and
they



do close people down for it.


This is a New Zealand site remember, so it's controlled by local
organisation RIANZ not any American organisation. I'm guessing
their



fees are equally prohibitive though, because *no-one* offers
podcasts or even streaming archived shows here unless they consist
purely of talk.


So I did some snooping and the local situation is this (turned out
it



was an organisation called Phonographic Performances New Zealand who



control broadcast licenses here):


PPNZ does not have an existing assignment to blanket licence
podcasts at the present time. Any broadcaster seeking to make
available music on demand is required to seek the permission of the



individual copyright owners concerned.


So it's more or less impossible to archive music radio online from
here!Madness...












--
peace,

frank

dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com





--
peace,

frank

dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com 




Re: (313) this thread sucks.

2008-09-09 Thread daveg

Quoting /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


look, I observed good netiquette!

:(


All discussions on netiquette are null and void until people stop top  
quoting ;-)