Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious
all I can say to this is: word. :) -Joe -- R17 is not a fixed velocity, but it is clearly far too fast. -- - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious So let see if I get this rightwhat you are saying is because of a question that was raised about how Layo & Bushwacka! are behind the desks, which in turn broke off into a discussion about tech-house and the UK side of it - which predominantly is heralded in the press by people with Caucasian physical features - we are now actively, though unconsciously, engaged in the oppression of Palestine, Northern Ireland, and Nigeria? >- me myself - I am half-ewok and half of a germ - >nationality to me is a damned metaphysical construction, >but the world is built on this, so it´s a reality I have to face You are confusing nationality with culture and lineage - your lineage is Ewok/German - your nationality is whatever country you have your citizenship in, and your culture is whatever group of people you identify with. Example: An Jewish Ethiopian naturalized into the US. This particular person's nationality is American, their culture is Jewish and their lineage is Ethiopian. Your nationality is not a metaphysical construction - your culture is. And there is no excuse for poor spelling - your computer will even do it for you. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] x.netTo: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 01/30/02 Subject: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious 03:25 PM Swayzak - they are not Ewoks ? I thought they would be from London - Ewokland - I´m very sorry (Scottish people ain´t no Ewkos) and though some friend just sent me "whip the Ewoks" I´m gonna stop the joking now, as there also was some serious thought behind this silly stuff - let me xplain - it´s gonna get 313-related and it´s gonna get heavy - - me myself - I am half-ewok and half of a germ - nationality to me is a damned metaphysical construction, but the world is built on this, so it´s a reality I have to face in this reality England and Germany and some other Nations as France, the USA cauzed and still cauze so much horror in the line of history - theese Nations repressed and killed countless people and culturez, other national constructionz and move them around on the big plate, they fight all the time various dirty games for the structures of "world order" - - Ghetto-reality, Palestine, Isreal (a part in a game too), Nigeria, Ireland etc.. cauze of that - many people in Detroit still live under bad circumstances - cauze of that - the biggest continent Africa, the major source - is kept in a mess cauze of that now - all music we hear nowadays is connected to the history line - music always is (transformed by artists) - if there´s Kraftwerks idea of creating "tribal music", if it´s about the rolling stones stealing from blues-artists, the rock´n roll robbery by elvis etc... if it´s about the alien-thing by many black artists as sun ra, george clinton, 4hero This list is about the "313-construction" It was started cauze of "techno-music" coming from Detroit Most artists are black artists who created this music, now the views of many people about this music are coming from various perspectives, but why is it that it happens that people highlight certain "european and white" musical influences, even more then the historical afro-american background of it ? I feel the amount of theese influences mentioned here is not in the right relation to the main basis and main source of much of the music - this shows a picture, that is changing the meaning the Ewok-joke was a silly inspiration to question the way of understanding music the "English" do, which also does have it´s certain tradition in the line of history... (highlighting the pop-aspect) See, I don´t want to be over- preachy and I feel much love 4 "this house is our house"-vision, and am so gratefull this door is still opened by artists though the shit keeps happening all the time - but I think we all do have the responsibility to take care ... much more care ... and that means to enjoy the music and the party of course, to enjoy it 100 %, but as long as I feel things are getting pulled into a certain direction, that seems to be a part of stealing or redefining the 313-culture in a "classical colonial" tradition, there will be those wrong spelled grammar f***ing preachy mails, and understand, when I´m doing
Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious
So let see if I get this rightwhat you are saying is because of a question that was raised about how Layo & Bushwacka! are behind the desks, which in turn broke off into a discussion about tech-house and the UK side of it - which predominantly is heralded in the press by people with Caucasian physical features - we are now actively, though unconsciously, engaged in the oppression of Palestine, Northern Ireland, and Nigeria? >- me myself - I am half-ewok and half of a germ - >nationality to me is a damned metaphysical construction, >but the world is built on this, so it´s a reality I have to face You are confusing nationality with culture and lineage - your lineage is Ewok/German - your nationality is whatever country you have your citizenship in, and your culture is whatever group of people you identify with. Example: An Jewish Ethiopian naturalized into the US. This particular person's nationality is American, their culture is Jewish and their lineage is Ethiopian. Your nationality is not a metaphysical construction - your culture is. And there is no excuse for poor spelling - your computer will even do it for you. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] x.netTo: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 01/30/02 Subject: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious 03:25 PM Swayzak - they are not Ewoks ? I thought they would be from London - Ewokland - I´m very sorry (Scottish people ain´t no Ewkos) and though some friend just sent me "whip the Ewoks" I´m gonna stop the joking now, as there also was some serious thought behind this silly stuff - let me xplain - it´s gonna get 313-related and it´s gonna get heavy - - me myself - I am half-ewok and half of a germ - nationality to me is a damned metaphysical construction, but the world is built on this, so it´s a reality I have to face in this reality England and Germany and some other Nations as France, the USA cauzed and still cauze so much horror in the line of history - theese Nations repressed and killed countless people and culturez, other national constructionz and move them around on the big plate, they fight all the time various dirty games for the structures of "world order" - - Ghetto-reality, Palestine, Isreal (a part in a game too), Nigeria, Ireland etc.. cauze of that - many people in Detroit still live under bad circumstances - cauze of that - the biggest continent Africa, the major source - is kept in a mess cauze of that now - all music we hear nowadays is connected to the history line - music always is (transformed by artists) - if there´s Kraftwerks idea of creating "tribal music", if it´s about the rolling stones stealing from blues-artists, the rock´n roll robbery by elvis etc... if it´s about the alien-thing by many black artists as sun ra, george clinton, 4hero This list is about the "313-construction" It was started cauze of "techno-music" coming from Detroit Most artists are black artists who created this music, now the views of many people about this music are coming from various perspectives, but why is it that it happens that people highlight certain "european and white" musical influences, even more then the historical afro-american background of it ? I feel the amount of theese influences mentioned here is not in the right relation to the main basis and main source of much of the music - this shows a picture, that is changing the meaning the Ewok-joke was a silly inspiration to question the way of understanding music the "English" do, which also does have it´s certain tradition in the line of history... (highlighting the pop-aspect) See, I don´t want to be over- preachy and I feel much love 4 "this house is our house"-vision, and am so gratefull this door is still opened by artists though the shit keeps happening all the time - but I think we all do have the responsibility to take care ... much more care ... and that means to enjoy the music and the party of course, to enjoy it 100 %, but as long as I feel things are getting pulled into a certain direction, that seems to be a part of stealing or r
RE: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious
no more drugs for *you*. m -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:26 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious Swayzak - they are not Ewoks ? I thought they would be from London - Ewokland - I´m very sorry (Scottish people ain´t no Ewkos) and though some friend just sent me "whip the Ewoks" I´m gonna stop the joking now, as there also was some serious thought behind this silly stuff - let me xplain - it´s gonna get 313-related and it´s gonna get heavy - - me myself - I am half-ewok and half of a germ - nationality to me is a damned metaphysical construction, but the world is built on this, so it´s a reality I have to face in this reality England and Germany and some other Nations as France, the USA cauzed and still cauze so much horror in the line of history - theese Nations repressed and killed countless people and culturez, other national constructionz and move them around on the big plate, they fight all the time various dirty games for the structures of "world order" - - Ghetto-reality, Palestine, Isreal (a part in a game too), Nigeria, Ireland etc.. cauze of that - many people in Detroit still live under bad circumstances - cauze of that - the biggest continent Africa, the major source - is kept in a mess cauze of that now - all music we hear nowadays is connected to the history line - music always is (transformed by artists) - if there´s Kraftwerks idea of creating "tribal music", if it´s about the rolling stones stealing from blues-artists, the rock´n roll robbery by elvis etc... if it´s about the alien-thing by many black artists as sun ra, george clinton, 4hero This list is about the "313-construction" It was started cauze of "techno-music" coming from Detroit Most artists are black artists who created this music, now the views of many people about this music are coming from various perspectives, but why is it that it happens that people highlight certain "european and white" musical influences, even more then the historical afro-american background of it ? I feel the amount of theese influences mentioned here is not in the right relation to the main basis and main source of much of the music - this shows a picture, that is changing the meaning the Ewok-joke was a silly inspiration to question the way of understanding music the "English" do, which also does have it´s certain tradition in the line of history... (highlighting the pop-aspect) See, I don´t want to be over- preachy and I feel much love 4 "this house is our house"-vision, and am so gratefull this door is still opened by artists though the shit keeps happening all the time - but I think we all do have the responsibility to take care ... much more care ... and that means to enjoy the music and the party of course, to enjoy it 100 %, but as long as I feel things are getting pulled into a certain direction, that seems to be a part of stealing or redefining the 313-culture in a "classical colonial" tradition, there will be those wrong spelled grammar f***ing preachy mails, and understand, when I´m doing the same kind of mistakes please tell me and teach me - shoutz m -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious
Swayzak - they are not Ewoks ? I thought they would be from London - Ewokland - I´m very sorry (Scottish people ain´t no Ewkos) and though some friend just sent me "whip the Ewoks" I´m gonna stop the joking now, as there also was some serious thought behind this silly stuff - let me xplain - it´s gonna get 313-related and it´s gonna get heavy - - me myself - I am half-ewok and half of a germ - nationality to me is a damned metaphysical construction, but the world is built on this, so it´s a reality I have to face in this reality England and Germany and some other Nations as France, the USA cauzed and still cauze so much horror in the line of history - theese Nations repressed and killed countless people and culturez, other national constructionz and move them around on the big plate, they fight all the time various dirty games for the structures of "world order" - - Ghetto-reality, Palestine, Isreal (a part in a game too), Nigeria, Ireland etc.. cauze of that - many people in Detroit still live under bad circumstances - cauze of that - the biggest continent Africa, the major source - is kept in a mess cauze of that now - all music we hear nowadays is connected to the history line - music always is (transformed by artists) - if there´s Kraftwerks idea of creating "tribal music", if it´s about the rolling stones stealing from blues-artists, the rock´n roll robbery by elvis etc... if it´s about the alien-thing by many black artists as sun ra, george clinton, 4hero This list is about the "313-construction" It was started cauze of "techno-music" coming from Detroit Most artists are black artists who created this music, now the views of many people about this music are coming from various perspectives, but why is it that it happens that people highlight certain "european and white" musical influences, even more then the historical afro-american background of it ? I feel the amount of theese influences mentioned here is not in the right relation to the main basis and main source of much of the music - this shows a picture, that is changing the meaning the Ewok-joke was a silly inspiration to question the way of understanding music the "English" do, which also does have it´s certain tradition in the line of history... (highlighting the pop-aspect) See, I don´t want to be over- preachy and I feel much love 4 "this house is our house"-vision, and am so gratefull this door is still opened by artists though the shit keeps happening all the time - but I think we all do have the responsibility to take care ... much more care ... and that means to enjoy the music and the party of course, to enjoy it 100 %, but as long as I feel things are getting pulled into a certain direction, that seems to be a part of stealing or redefining the 313-culture in a "classical colonial" tradition, there will be those wrong spelled grammar f***ing preachy mails, and understand, when I´m doing the same kind of mistakes please tell me and teach me - shoutz m -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]