Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-31 Thread g

At 4:37 PM -0400 5/30/02, scotto wrote:

I d/l the song and it was not this track.

I got the impression that it was live or a new track or something
because it was not mixed in or out and at the end he stopped and everyone
clapped.

it was more an epic peice of material like steven riech or can, it's hard to
describe I was pretty drunk by 11 am.


who knows... as much as he might like to tease john about it, rich 
has just as many 'secret squirrel' records as john does.  go record 
shopping around the globe for a decade and you'll find some pretty 
amazing stuff.



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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-31 Thread The Deliverator
From the description of it, I think this is the same track he ended the +8
party last year at saint andrews with.  I wish I knew what it was :-)

jim

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 At 4:37 PM -0400 5/30/02, scotto wrote:
 I d/l the song and it was not this track.
 
 I got the impression that it was live or a new track or something
 because it was not mixed in or out and at the end he stopped and everyone
 clapped.
 
 it was more an epic peice of material like steven riech or can, it's hard
to
 describe I was pretty drunk by 11 am.

 who knows... as much as he might like to tease john about it, rich
 has just as many 'secret squirrel' records as john does.  go record
 shopping around the globe for a decade and you'll find some pretty
 amazing stuff.


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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-31 Thread plaztikjezuz
yea know it could have been the end of his set?? 

magda, richie and da germans were taggin the whole time 
I was there so it was pretty confusing who was playing 
and I stopped paying really close attention to that.

and I had had a few beers by that point.

scotto 
 From the description of it, I think this is the same track he ended the +8
 party last year at saint andrews with.  I wish I knew what it was :-)
 
 jim
 
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  At 4:37 PM -0400 5/30/02, scotto wrote:
  I d/l the song and it was not this track.
  
  I got the impression that it was live or a new track or something
  because it was not mixed in or out and at the end he stopped and everyone
  clapped.
  
  it was more an epic peice of material like steven riech or can, it's hard
 to
  describe I was pretty drunk by 11 am.
 
  who knows... as much as he might like to tease john about it, rich
  has just as many 'secret squirrel' records as john does.  go record
  shopping around the globe for a decade and you'll find some pretty
  amazing stuff.
 
 
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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-30 Thread g

At 4:41 PM -0400 5/29/02, scotto wrote:

also around 11 am richie played this track that I would call epic techno
not something you would dance to but very interesting and uplifting it
lasted maybe 15 minutes and when he was done the whole place was clapping
for like 3 or 4 minutes.


not sure if he played it this year, but possibly Link - 'Amenity'. 
Link is actually the Global Communications guys, or at least one of 
them.  it's a track from 1992, just about impossible to find.  one of 
his favorite records.


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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-30 Thread Ian
On 5/29/02 10:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 4:41 PM -0400 5/29/02, scotto wrote:
 also around 11 am richie played this track that I would call epic techno
 not something you would dance to but very interesting and uplifting it
 lasted maybe 15 minutes and when he was done the whole place was clapping
 for like 3 or 4 minutes.
 
 not sure if he played it this year, but possibly Link - 'Amenity'.
 Link is actually the Global Communications guys, or at least one of
 them.  it's a track from 1992, just about impossible to find.  one of
 his favorite records.

Thank you so much for this ID.  I don't care if Rich played it Monday, but
I've heard it at *so* many parties and always wondered what it was.

Audiogalaxy is nice.  (this is usually where someone points out that I
already own it on a CD comp...)
-- 
im


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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-30 Thread Jayson B.


not sure if he played it this year, but possibly Link - 'Amenity'. Link is 
actually the Global Communications guys, or at least one of them.  it's a 
track from 1992, just about impossible to find.  one of his favorite 
records.



i could've swore this track was done by reload.  or maybe are they the same 
people?


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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-30 Thread robin pinning
 not sure if he played it this year, but possibly Link - 'Amenity'. Link is
 actually the Global Communications guys, or at least one of them.  it's a
 track from 1992, just about impossible to find.  one of his favorite
 records.


 i could've swore this track was done by reload.  or maybe are they the same
 people?

yep, same people

robin...


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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-30 Thread scotto
I d/l the song and it was not this track.

I got the impression that it was live or a new track or something
because it was not mixed in or out and at the end he stopped and everyone
clapped.

it was more an epic peice of material like steven riech or can, it's hard to
describe I was pretty drunk by 11 am.

scotto
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 At 4:41 PM -0400 5/29/02, scotto wrote:
 also around 11 am richie played this track that I would call epic
techno
 not something you would dance to but very interesting and uplifting it
 lasted maybe 15 minutes and when he was done the whole place was clapping
 for like 3 or 4 minutes.

 not sure if he played it this year, but possibly Link - 'Amenity'.
 Link is actually the Global Communications guys, or at least one of
 them.  it's a track from 1992, just about impossible to find.  one of
 his favorite records.

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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-29 Thread g

At 5:31 PM + 5/28/02, Cyborg K wrote:
For example, he played dBx's BABY JUDY at one point, actually a 
track I'm fond of, but not a track that I would immediately think of 
as being powerful; well on the Quadraphonic soundsystem it had a 
huge impact and was really rocking the crowd!


agreed.  and krekc just about gave me a heart attack.

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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-29 Thread scotto

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  I have to agree, I went to Richie's party wanting to know whether it
 lived up to all the hype.  To be honest, I now wish I had gone elsewhere.

we wnt there early sun to get tickets but the line was so long we just went
home and to bed woke up at 7 am got there at 8 am and I wish we had gotten
there a little earlier, but the perlon and minus tag team was awesome. rich
was pretty into it and a maybe a little drunk he kept punping his fist and
dancing on stage after he was done playing.

I really enjoyed the tracks he played very minimal with grinding basss lines
and all the looping he was doing it was sick. very minimal and german
sounding.

also around 11 am richie played this track that I would call epic techno
not something you would dance to but very interesting and uplifting it
lasted maybe 15 minutes and when he was done the whole place was clapping
for like 3 or 4 minutes.

  well on the Quadraphonic soundsystem
 it had a huge impact and was really rocking the crowd!

I talked with the sound guys because I was interested in the system and they
told me it was not a quad system it was stereo, but it sound so damn good,
clean and LOUD.

   And Richie Hawtin has nothing on him for
   volume. I had foam plugs in and it was still loud.  I thought something
 was
   falling from the ceiling and hitting my forhead, but it was the sound
 from the
   PA hitting my skin.

yea I have to agree rich's parties are just getting louder. after last years
jak and control I thought it could not get louder but I was wrong, I am just
woundering how much longer he can keep it up before he goes deaf (if he is
not already)

 Control was the archetypal Richie Hawtin experience.  The smoke and blue
 strobes remove your visual sense, the volume effectively renders your ears
 useless.  All you're left with is the intensity of the bass, which
regulates
 your breathing, and Richie deciding when you inhale and exhale.

 you hit the nail on the head!

scotto


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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-28 Thread Cyborg K
I have to agree, I went to Richie's party wanting to know whether it 
lived up to all the hype.  To be honest, I now wish I had gone elsewhere.  
Quite frankly, I found it to be formulaic-- his material tended to be very 
monotone, and the tricks as far as cutting the bass, playing with the groove 
and then dropping the bass again, were predictable after a while to say the 
least.  On the other hand, his minimal tools, when combined with 
disorienting lights and an overwhelming soundsystem, did certainly show why 
his parties are popular; on a pragmatic level this setup was quite effective 
at getting the crowd going and dancing together.  I kept waiting with the 
thought that, since he obviously had the crowd where he wanted them, maybe 
he would now let us hear something deeper and more tweaked on that sound 
system?
On the other hand, I am not sure what the exact lineup was before 
Richie, but I did enjoy all the music from the start of the party up until 
Richie, I know Villalobos played but I'm not sure if someone else opened (it 
was too smoky when I first entered the main room to tell.)  Although things 
were minimal i thought they were much funkier, much more what I had hoped 
for.  i've heard MP3 mixsets from richie that I though were pretty good, so 
I guess my thought is that in Detroit Richie preffered to push a stripped 
down sound which is perhaps what some of his fans, (esp. the ravers) expect 
and are into.
I wonder how much of the impact of his set was simply a by-product of the 
soundsystem and room.  For example, he played dBx's BABY JUDY at one 
point, actually a track I'm fond of, but not a track that I would 
immediately think of as being powerful; well on the Quadraphonic soundsystem 
it had a huge impact and was really rocking the crowd!

Well those are my thoughts anyway just trying to sort things out.
/dave

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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 17:58:58 -0400

On 5/27/02 12:56 PM, Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Radioboy/Herbert was totally mad, destroying products from corporate 
Icons
 like McDonalds, Gap, and Starbuck. I think he was using the Roland VP 
sampler,

 live to sample in his acts of mayhem.  His hyperactive, lurching stage
 presence was riveting to watch.

Agreed.  As Radioboy, Herbert may have the most mercurial stage prescence
I've seen.  The delight you feel is the unbridled joy of destroying those
Icons.  To be honest, I disliked the Radioboy material as downloads, but the
tracks really come to life when you see the performance, and realize how
subject to chance the sounds are.

 And Richie Hawtin has nothing on him for
 volume. I had foam plugs in and it was still loud.  I thought something 
was
 falling from the ceiling and hitting my forhead, but it was the sound 
from the

 PA hitting my skin.

I'm not too sure about this.  Linda and I managed to score double-sided
passes and crept off to watch Rich from his stage for an hour or so.  I
should have taken you up on the plugs, Kent.

Control was the archetypal Richie Hawtin experience.  The smoke and blue
strobes remove your visual sense, the volume effectively renders your ears
useless.  All you're left with is the intensity of the bass, which regulates
your breathing, and Richie deciding when you inhale and exhale.  This forced
surrender was fun for me once, but it left me a little cold last night.
There literally was no tonal content, and very little variation in the
beats.  From my perspective, no real groove or funk.

 Shake was Shake, which is to say a just about perfect musicians' DJ.  He
 was all over the place genre-wise but always with an ear for 
heartbreakingly

 beautiful melody.

I knew I missed something while I was next door.  Dammit!  Fortunately, when
we left at about 6am, we decided to pop back in to see how Carl was wrapping
things up.  Stevie Wonder's Another Star was the perfect antidote for my
mood, and a great melody to have ringing around in your head as the morning
sun illuminates the sewer steam on the drive home through Detroit.
--
im


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[313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-27 Thread Ian
On 5/27/02 12:56 PM, Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Radioboy/Herbert was totally mad, destroying products from corporate Icons
 like McDonalds, Gap, and Starbuck. I think he was using the Roland VP sampler,
 live to sample in his acts of mayhem.  His hyperactive, lurching stage
 presence was riveting to watch.

Agreed.  As Radioboy, Herbert may have the most mercurial stage prescence
I've seen.  The delight you feel is the unbridled joy of destroying those
Icons.  To be honest, I disliked the Radioboy material as downloads, but the
tracks really come to life when you see the performance, and realize how
subject to chance the sounds are.

 And Richie Hawtin has nothing on him for
 volume. I had foam plugs in and it was still loud.  I thought something was
 falling from the ceiling and hitting my forhead, but it was the sound from the
 PA hitting my skin.

I'm not too sure about this.  Linda and I managed to score double-sided
passes and crept off to watch Rich from his stage for an hour or so.  I
should have taken you up on the plugs, Kent.

Control was the archetypal Richie Hawtin experience.  The smoke and blue
strobes remove your visual sense, the volume effectively renders your ears
useless.  All you're left with is the intensity of the bass, which regulates
your breathing, and Richie deciding when you inhale and exhale.  This forced
surrender was fun for me once, but it left me a little cold last night.
There literally was no tonal content, and very little variation in the
beats.  From my perspective, no real groove or funk.
 
 Shake was Shake, which is to say a just about perfect musicians' DJ.  He
 was all over the place genre-wise but always with an ear for heartbreakingly
 beautiful melody.

I knew I missed something while I was next door.  Dammit!  Fortunately, when
we left at about 6am, we decided to pop back in to see how Carl was wrapping
things up.  Stevie Wonder's Another Star was the perfect antidote for my
mood, and a great melody to have ringing around in your head as the morning
sun illuminates the sewer steam on the drive home through Detroit.
-- 
im


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