Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-18 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Well I caught Marshall in Melbourne and he was on top of his game. Lots of
great tracks, from garage to deep house to electro to techno. Sensational!!
Unfortunately the venue - a new commercial house night - he played had put
on a huge night the week before with David Morales/Harry "Choo Choo" Romero,
which was sponsored by an advertsing company on the behalf of a cigarette
manufacturer.

They spent a fortune on advertising. But there was virtually no lead up for
Marshall, which was put on as a regular night. Bearing in mind that it is
now winter in Melbourne, it was already a tough call. Also many house
purists have decided to boycott this venue for various ideological reasons
and wouldn't even show up for an icon. The tragedy is that the venue
apparently didn't let Marshall finish his set - something which I personally
think is terrible and very disrespectful to the DJ and punters regardless of
the circumstances. It was just bad timing, the gig. I really felt for Mr
Jefferson as he is the dearest man and a joy for the promoters and media to
work with - he also has the most incredible memory. I really hope to hear
him play again!! 

>Regarding Marshall Jefferson, I love his releases, and he has been there 
>from the very beginning

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Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-08 Thread stuffed bird
True words by our man John. No Detroit without the Chicago posse as far as I'm 
concerned.

Regarding Marshall Jefferson, I love his releases, and he has been there from 
the very beginning, but when I heard him DJ a few weeks ago I was soo 
disappointed. For two hours he played the most unbelievable cheap filtered 
disco house you can imagine...
Big bummer I tell you...

Well, I'll keep on playing his records and avoid him as a DJ, easy enough I 
think.

RD

On Sat, 05 May 2001 17:17:53 +0200 John Osselaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>I wonder where I'd categorize Derrick if he had some cuts on Trax for
>>example
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>---> Funny that you should mention this because Derrick May had some serious 
>affection for Chicago and its sound before he embarked upon techno. Derrick 
>frequently went to Chicago, both for records and clubbing. Who has heard of 
>a club called The Bismarck? Apparently Lil' Louis played there a lot and 
>Derrick was influenced by him (or so I have been told). It think it is hard 
>to deny that Detroit techno learnt a lesson or two from the brotha's in the 
>Windy City.
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Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-07 Thread jkessler
You can check out Ron Hardy's mixes for yourself at 
http://www.deephousepage.com. Pretty amazing, I think, if you like deeply 
spiritual house music from one of the founding fathers back in the day.

-J

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> >
> >Remember Derrick once mentioned that he wanted to move to 
Chicago just so
> >that he could listen to WBMX/Hot mix 5 all the time!!!:):):)
> >(To which Juan A. apparently commented that they played "fag music" 
in
> >there..humph!!! oh boy:/)
> >
> 
> Seems like he got over his prejudices. :)
> Btw Derrick has said that in his opinion Ron Hardy was the greatest dj 
ever.
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Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-07 Thread jkessler
You can check out Ron Hardy's mixes for yourself at 
http://www.deephousepage.com. Pretty amazing, I think, if you like deeply 
spiritual house music from one of the founding fathers back in the day.

-J

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> >
> >Remember Derrick once mentioned that he wanted to move to 
Chicago just so
> >that he could listen to WBMX/Hot mix 5 all the time!!!:):):)
> >(To which Juan A. apparently commented that they played "fag music" 
in
> >there..humph!!! oh boy:/)
> >
> 
> Seems like he got over his prejudices. :)
> Btw Derrick has said that in his opinion Ron Hardy was the greatest dj 
ever.
> 
> Ville
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Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-06 Thread jim proffit

John Osselaer:

..I've heard rumours that in the end Ron was selling highly exclusive and 
superb records for a few bucks just so he could get his

next fix. Truly one of the sadder stories in the history of this music. :-(


Same goes for Larry Levan. He sold all kinds of classics on the street for 
dimes.
I've got few records myself that I bought from a guy in Chicago, and they 
have something like "the Box" -written on the labels. Old Hardy records? I 
don't know but it's strange to think they could be...



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Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-05 Thread Sakari Karipuro
On Sat, 5 May 2001, Cyclone Wehner wrote:

> for the first time next weekend and I would love to know what to expect.
> Also has anyone heard his Tresor album of '97, Day Of The Onion?

i haven't heard the album but i've got the 12" named Day of the
Onion. although, it's not a tresor 12" (ok, i'll dig it out from
somewhere to check the details). "Day of the onion" -track is ~130 bpm
umhh.. terry lee brown jr type track, it's not special, but not bad
either. but definately not anywhere near his mid-90's garage house
productions, in quality. 

and i don't have a clue what he plays as a dj. 

sakke
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Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-05 Thread John Osselaer


Btw Derrick has said that in his opinion Ron Hardy was the greatest dj 
ever.


> Heard Earl 'Spanky' Smith from PHuture (303) and Felix Da Housecat say 
the same thing recently. I've heard rumours that in the end Ron was selling 
highly exclusive and superb records for a few bucks just so he could get his 
next fix. Truly one of the sadder stories in the history of this music. :-(


John


Ville

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Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-05 Thread Ville Hyv�nen






Remember Derrick once mentioned that he wanted to move to Chicago just so
that he could listen to WBMX/Hot mix 5 all the time!!!:):):)
(To which Juan A. apparently commented that they played "fag music" in
there..humph!!! oh boy:/)



Seems like he got over his prejudices. :)
Btw Derrick has said that in his opinion Ron Hardy was the greatest dj ever.

Ville

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Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-05 Thread jim proffit

John wrote:

...Who has heard of a club called The Bismarck? Apparently Lil' Louis 
>played there a lot and Derrick was influenced by him (or so I have >been 
told)...


Oh yeah, it was the Bismark Pavilion hotel I think which had a club in it, 
and Louis was the resident DJ in there... I remember reading it had a huge 
following at one point.


There's a live mix from the club at the deephousepage.com, at page 3, mix 
nr.350.



It think it is hard to deny that Detroit techno learnt a lesson or two 
>from the brotha's in the Windy City.


Remember Derrick once mentioned that he wanted to move to Chicago just so 
that he could listen to WBMX/Hot mix 5 all the time!!!:):):)
(To which Juan A. apparently commented that they played "fag music" in 
there..humph!!! oh boy:/)



Chicago was also a very important promoting-channel (in the U.S.) that 
helped to broke a lot of the Detroit music that was released, all the May 
classics for example.



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Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-05 Thread John Osselaer



I wonder where I'd categorize Derrick if he had some cuts on Trax for
example

---> Funny that you should mention this because Derrick May had some serious 
affection for Chicago and its sound before he embarked upon techno. Derrick 
frequently went to Chicago, both for records and clubbing. Who has heard of 
a club called The Bismarck? Apparently Lil' Louis played there a lot and 
Derrick was influenced by him (or so I have been told). It think it is hard 
to deny that Detroit techno learnt a lesson or two from the brotha's in the 
Windy City.


John




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Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-05 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
On Sat, 5 May 2001, Cyclone Wehner wrote:

> . is a Chicago DJ/producer, I know, but respected by many in 313
> circles, and has also released music on Tresor and is an influence on
> Detroit in more ways than one.
> 
> I know Marshall has forged out a somewhat fluid musical identity (he even
> recorded with Chris Liebing!!), which is admirable. He is playing Melbourne
> for the first time next weekend and I would love to know what to expect.
> Also has anyone heard his Tresor album of '97, Day Of The Onion?

I can't answer this quesitonbut I had no idea that Jefferson did work
on Tresor.  Just goes to show you how fluid many of these categories that
we hold fast to are in real life.  I recall a conversation with an old
house head in which he vehemently argued that house and techno "didn't
mix."  He wasn't necessarily an idiot...just very dogmatic.  

I wonder where I'd categorize Derrick if he had some cuts on Trax for
example



Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-05 Thread Ville Hyv�nen


He played in Helsinki a couple of months ago and the music was mostly clubby 
house stuff. Not totally crap, but close enough. I would have hoped to hear 
chicago classics, but no...
On the other hand it was a big and very commercial party so maybe he just 
adjusted himself to the atmosphere. Hope you´ll have better luck.


Cheers
Ville


. is a Chicago DJ/producer, I know, but respected by many in 313

circles, and has also released music on Tresor and is an influence on
Detroit in more ways than one.

I know Marshall has forged out a somewhat fluid musical identity (he even
recorded with Chris Liebing!!), which is admirable. He is playing Melbourne
for the first time next weekend and I would love to know what to expect.
Also has anyone heard his Tresor album of '97, Day Of The Onion?



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