Re: [313] Video Vinyl

2000-11-15 Thread Gerald
Very interesting concept + makes it easier to rewind or fast forward. 

Also, if this is Mr. Hamilton - Welcome back... it's been a while.

Cheers,

Gerald

Dustin wrote:
> 
> One of my favorite news-sites ( http://slashdot.org ) had listed a site
> called http://www.vinylvideo.com/ -- looks like a software setup that takes
> the input from records and makes 'video' from it...I didnt read all of it,
> but just wanted to sent the URL along...
> 
> -Dustin
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Re: [313] Video Vinyl

2000-11-15 Thread Christian Bloch
it's a bunch of weird people that wants to go against the "digital trend"
and record video on vinyl, just for the sake of doing it. it's not video
from your current vinyl records, but from special discs... anyway, it might
just be a joke? i'm not sure. as an extra collectors' bonus, all discs are
limited to ten copies!  ;)

from their web site:

"VinylVideoT is a fake archeology of media.
We designed a device that retrieves videosignals (moving image and sound)
stored on a conventional Vinyl (LP) record. The discontinuity in the
development of electronic film technology constitutes the historical
background for this fictitious video disc technology: Even though
television, the electronic transmission of moving images, had been feasible
since the late 1920's, storage of these images became possible only after
development of the video recorder in 1958. Recording images for private use
did not become available until the mass introduction of the VCR in the early
1980's (!). Before, the average consumer was confined to use Super-8 film, a
technology dating back to 1900, usually without sound. Recording of
television was not possible at all.
VinylVideoT reconstructs a homemovie technology of the late 40's/early 50's
and thus bridges a gap in the history of consumer technology. The images are
stored on a conventional analog record, with a running time of ca. 8 min /
side  (Singles 4 min / side). These records are played on a standard
turntable with an ordinary diamond needle, the signals are then processed by
the VinylVideo Home Kit into a videosignal that is displayed on a black and
white TV-set".

Technology:
Lack of bandwidth poses the main problem for the mechanical storage of video
on a record: Unlike TV with a bandwidth of 3-5 Megahertz, LP's hardly
provide capacity for 1/200 of this, ca. 25 Kilohertz. To accomplish the
storage of film, radical data reduction has to be used: The number of frames
per second and resolution were drastically reduced, storage of color is not
possible. But this is not enough: switching from frequency modulation, that
delivers stable signals but takes up a lot of bandwidth,  to amplitude
modulation results in additional data reduction. The downside of this is a
loss in the quality of the stored images, the pictures become more sensitive
to disturbances, like imperfections of the LP. The difference in quality can
be compared to the difference between FM and AM radio broadcasting, the
latter being much more sensitive to interferences.
Instead of building a circuit based on vacuum tubes, VinylVideoT uses
proprietary computer technology developed by Martin Diamant and Günter
Erhart for real-time processing of the video signal.



Christian Bloch
www.mp3.com/bloch

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> One of my favorite news-sites ( http://slashdot.org ) had listed a site
> called http://www.vinylvideo.com/ -- looks like a software setup that
takes
> the input from records and makes 'video' from it...I didnt read all of it,
> but just wanted to sent the URL along...
>
> -Dustin
>
>
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Re: [313] Video Vinyl

2000-11-15 Thread Sakari Karipuro
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Dustin wrote:

> One of my favorite news-sites ( http://slashdot.org ) had listed a site
> called http://www.vinylvideo.com/ -- looks like a software setup that takes
> the input from records and makes 'video' from it...I didnt read all of it,
> but just wanted to sent the URL along...
> 
> -Dustin

there was some article about samekind of thing in village voice i
think, last winter or so. with an exception that the guy whose name has
escaped from my memory had video and sound on the same vinyl and then he
did performances, all hip-hop-like with those tools.. weird.. quality of
the picture wasn't very good, i recall they told in the article. 


sakke
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