Re: [313] is rolando too good for ben sims because of D records?

2000-10-23 Thread Phonopsia
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From: Tosh Cooey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org
Date: Sunday, October 22, 2000 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [313] is rolando too good for ben sims because of D records?


All kidding aside, heh heh heh A Jaguar question:  A few years back
there was a party in Detroit thrown by Dez and the DETOR boys, it had
Murat closing out the night and was in some warehouse right in the city,
maybe near Woodward?  Anyway, the last track Murat played as the
warehouse doors opened up to reveal the Detroit skyline and the day was
a stringy UR track that sounded a lot like Jaguar.  Has Jaguar been
around this long, or at least the template sound for Jaguar?  Is this a
sort of signature sound that has been passed down since Strings of Life,
kinda like the Basic Channel 'whooshiness'.

Tosh

I was spacing off about something like this at work the other day. Does
anyone else think Jaguar would never have been as big as it is without all
of Derrick May's publicity for Innovator in the year preceding its release -
as though Innovator prepared a lot of people's ears for the early Detroit
sound? I think a lot of people thought they were *supposed* to like
Innovator from the moment they heard it, I mean how many people that are
into techno music can say they don't like Strings of Life? Innovator made a
lot of unlikely top ten lists a while after it was released, and it strikes
me as odd that Jaguar is one of the first stringy (in the sense of older
synth String of Life strings) songs I can remember hearing after Innovator
was released. I remember when I first heard Derrick May records, I liked
Strings of Life but I had a lot more trouble getting into his other tracks,
probably because the Strings weren't so prominent, and the older sound was
pretty foreign to my ears at that point. I'm really tired, not sure if that
made sense...

Don't get me wrong. I love Innovator and Jaguar, but the popularity of
Jaguar is somewhat surprising to me.

Conversely, is anyone else surprised Every Dog Has It's Day didn't get the
same kind of lasting response or DJ play? Or rather, since I think it was a
limited pressing, that it hasn't achieved more of a cult status? Or is it
too soon for that? I would definitely put Every Dog Has It's Day in the same
catgory.


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FWD: Re: [313] is rolando too good for ben sims because of D records?

2000-10-23 Thread neil simpson
actually it seems jaguar blew up after the huge magazine press UR got for
standing its ground against Sony/BMG ... in the UK this got a LOT of press
even in more mainstream magazines and even ended up getting reviewed in a
few newspapers ...

UR released the CD version on 430 with the express purpose of getting the
'real' jaguar out to as meany ears as possible, to kill the rip off..

the underground community seemed to be galvanised and united more than I
have seen it in a while, and there was certainly a very big buzz going
around.

rather ironic that it took a lame trance rip-off that very few people have
ever heard to bring UR into public focus!

i for one like jaguar as much as I did when I first heard it, no more
because of the hype, and no less because it is now popular.  i'd hate to see
people start to diss UR because they are no longer 'underground' enough ...
if this is the only reason ppl liked them in the first place then they need
to re-evaluate their priorities.




I was spacing off about something like this at work the other day. Does
anyone else think Jaguar would never have been as big as it is without all
of Derrick May's publicity for Innovator in the year preceding its release -
as though Innovator prepared a lot of people's ears for the early Detroit
sound? I think a lot of people thought they were *supposed* to like
Innovator from the moment they heard it, I mean how many people that are
into techno music can say they don't like Strings of Life? Innovator made a
lot of unlikely top ten lists a while after it was released, and it strikes
me as odd that Jaguar is one of the first stringy (in the sense of older
synth String of Life strings) songs I can remember hearing after Innovator
was released. I remember when I first heard Derrick May records, I liked
Strings of Life but I had a lot more trouble getting into his other tracks,
probably because the Strings weren't so prominent, and the older sound was
pretty foreign to my ears at that point. I'm really tired, not sure if that
made sense...

Don't get me wrong. I love Innovator and Jaguar, but the popularity of
Jaguar is somewhat surprising to me.


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Re: [313] is rolando too good for ben sims because of D records?

2000-10-22 Thread Tosh Cooey
 ack!
 
 Anybody bought some deep, stringy, soulful detroit techno lately?
 recommendations?

No I don't think so, unless they were buying records from a few years
back.

All kidding aside, heh heh heh A Jaguar question:  A few years back
there was a party in Detroit thrown by Dez and the DETOR boys, it had
Murat closing out the night and was in some warehouse right in the city,
maybe near Woodward?  Anyway, the last track Murat played as the
warehouse doors opened up to reveal the Detroit skyline and the day was
a stringy UR track that sounded a lot like Jaguar.  Has Jaguar been
around this long, or at least the template sound for Jaguar?  Is this a
sort of signature sound that has been passed down since Strings of Life,
kinda like the Basic Channel 'whooshiness'.

Tosh