[313] off topic but fun nonetheless

2002-08-29 Thread Samuel Hobbs
hello all-

i am hoping to get everyone's help in suggesting some
definitive acid house tracks for downloading purposes.
 i'm hoping to fill up at least a cd with mp3 tracks
so i'd appreciate as many suggestions as possible.

THANKS

-sam

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Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless

2002-08-29 Thread stewart
> hello all-
> 
> i am hoping to get everyone's help in suggesting some
> definitive acid house tracks for downloading purposes.
>  i'm hoping to fill up at least a cd with mp3 tracks
> so i'd appreciate as many suggestions as possible.
> 
> THANKS
> 
> -sam

Without listing the numerous and obvious late 80s Chicago classics, here are a 
few off the top of my head that possibly wont make too many obvious lists, but 
are worth digging out again (I often do) Actually one would probably argue that 
303 baselines aside these dont really belong in the same crate as 'Acid House', 
but if youre just looking for a funky 303 trip then here you go :)

Twister - Underground Resistance
Bang the Acid - Damon Wild and Tim Taylor
Horses - Voodoo Child (Yes I know thats Moby!)
That Sysex track off the secong Plus 8 From Our Minds to yours album.
Plasticity - Plastikman
The final Frontier - UR
Vertigo - K Alexi

Also I remember having these wicked 8 track white labels that I think were by 
the Kosmic Kommando and were just all purely 303, 909 and 808 made tunes, but I 
used to love mixing them all together in one big sick trick acid set!! Man, I 
need to find my old mix tapes :)

Stewart


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Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless

2002-08-29 Thread Sakari Karipuro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 30 Aug 2002 about following:

> Also I remember having these wicked 8 track white labels that I think 
> were by the Kosmic Kommando and were just all purely 303, 909 and 808 
> made tunes, but I used to love mixing them all together in one big 
> sick trick acid set!! Man, I need to find my old mix tapes :)

universal indicator ep's i guess. i've got the red (TR-606 ep) one and 
the blue (TB-303 ep) one. (and there was green and yellow ones too). 
megamixed cd of about all of those tracks was released on Rephlex some 
time ago, if you find it, check the track timings. 1:01, 3:03, 6:06 
and so on. 

my guess would be that these ep's are very difficult to get although i've 
seen some of them on ebay occasionally.


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RE: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless

2002-08-29 Thread Brendan Nelson
I remember the endless debates on IDM about who made those records - "Aphex
did the red one, Kosmik Kommando did the blue one", etc etc...

The red one was probably my favourite - the hi-hats sounded like screaming
metallic beasts incarcerated in their fiery, acidic hell!

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| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 30 Aug 2002 about following:
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| > Also I remember having these wicked 8 track white labels that I think
| > were by the Kosmic Kommando and were just all purely 303, 909 and 808
| > made tunes, but I used to love mixing them all together in one big
| > sick trick acid set!! Man, I need to find my old mix tapes :)
|
| universal indicator ep's i guess. i've got the red (TR-606 ep) one and
| the blue (TB-303 ep) one. (and there was green and yellow ones too).
| megamixed cd of about all of those tracks was released on Rephlex some
| time ago, if you find it, check the track timings. 1:01, 3:03, 6:06
| and so on.
|
| my guess would be that these ep's are very difficult to get although i've
| seen some of them on ebay occasionally.
|
|
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Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless

2002-08-29 Thread Brendan Nelson
I'll go for some old Chicago tracks that aren't *amazingly* obvious, but
leave aside modern stuff (I do think that Jeff Mills and Mad Mike are the
John Coltrane and Pharoah Sanders of the TB303 though, as evidenced on
Seawolf and the Acid Rain series :) :

Six Brown Brothers "City Hall"
Dr Derelict "That Sh*t's Wild"
Lidell Townsell "Feel The Mood"
Mr Lee "Never Gonna Change"
Hokus Pokus "Different World" (*especially* this track!)
Mike 'Hitman' Wilson "Bango Acid"
JM Silk "Music Is The Key"
Maurice "This is Acid"
Hot Hanas Hula "Hot Hands"
The Porch Monkeys "Hello Lover"
and of course the tear-jerkingly poignant "I Got A Big D*ck" by Maurice
Joshua...

Brendan

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|
| > hello all-
| >
| > i am hoping to get everyone's help in suggesting some
| > definitive acid house tracks for downloading purposes.
| >  i'm hoping to fill up at least a cd with mp3 tracks
| > so i'd appreciate as many suggestions as possible.
| >
| > THANKS
| >
| > -sam
|
| Without listing the numerous and obvious late 80s Chicago
| classics, here are a few off the top of my head that possibly
| wont make too many obvious lists, but are worth digging out again
| (I often do) Actually one would probably argue that 303 baselines
| aside these dont really belong in the same crate as 'Acid House',
| but if youre just looking for a funky 303 trip then here you go :)
|
| Twister - Underground Resistance
| Bang the Acid - Damon Wild and Tim Taylor
| Horses - Voodoo Child (Yes I know thats Moby!)
| That Sysex track off the secong Plus 8 From Our Minds to yours album.
| Plasticity - Plastikman
| The final Frontier - UR
| Vertigo - K Alexi
|
| Also I remember having these wicked 8 track white labels that I
| think were by the Kosmic Kommando and were just all purely 303,
| 909 and 808 made tunes, but I used to love mixing them all
| together in one big sick trick acid set!! Man, I need to find my
| old mix tapes :)
|
| Stewart
|
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Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless

2002-08-30 Thread james bucknell
there are so so so many. but here are a couple of my all time favourite
chicago acid tracks--house master baldwin 'don't lead me' (future scope),
ace and the sandman 'let your body talk'(saber), phortune 'feel the bass'
(hot mix 5), the poke (mike dunn's your turn to work it mix), laurent x
'machines'. marshall jefferson 'do the do'(dj international?)

some early 90s, non chicago acid--mike ink 'house arrest' on the we call it
acid e.p. (force inc), count zero[richard h kirk] 'silent prayer' (ozone).

for those in sydney, i'll be playing some, if not all, of these tracks
tonight at teknikal at chinese laundry.

if it wasn't 22c (74f) and not a cloud in the sky i'd make the list longer.
but i'm off to sit in the bushland by the sea and look for fairy penguins.
james
www.jbucknell.com


> From: Samuel Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:53:20 -0700 (PDT)
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless
> 
> hello all-
> 
> i am hoping to get everyone's help in suggesting some
> definitive acid house tracks for downloading purposes.
> i'm hoping to fill up at least a cd with mp3 tracks
> so i'd appreciate as many suggestions as possible.
> 
> THANKS
> 
> -sam
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RE: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless

2002-08-30 Thread Odeluga, Ken
'Acid Thunder' - Fast Eddie (or is that more Hip-House?)

OK - 'Jackin' Tall' - Lidell Townsell.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Liddell_Townsell

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Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless

2002-08-30 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Brendan Nelson wrote on Fri, 30 Aug 2002 about following:

> Lidell Townsell "Feel The Mood"

this was actually by maurice joshua :)

mmm..
ecstacy club - jesus loves the acid/lsd/dsl   (seen all three :)
bam bam - where's your child
jack frost - acid man
humanoid - stakker humanoid


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RE: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless

2002-08-30 Thread Brendan Nelson
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| From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 8:39 AM
| 
| Brendan Nelson wrote on Fri, 30 Aug 2002 about following:
| 
| > Lidell Townsell "Feel The Mood"
| 
| this was actually by maurice joshua :)

By gum you're right! :)

I think the line "...with Maurice, Lidell and Hula too" threw me off a bit.

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Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless

2002-08-30 Thread Trevor Wilkes
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Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid

2002-08-29 Thread john harvey
I agree, this is real acid house - i.e. no distortion on the 303, unlike the
newer stuff.
john.

> I'll go for some old Chicago tracks that aren't *amazingly* obvious, but
> leave aside modern stuff (I do think that Jeff Mills and Mad Mike are the
> John Coltrane and Pharoah Sanders of the TB303 though, as evidenced on
> Seawolf and the Acid Rain series :) :
>
> Six Brown Brothers "City Hall"
> Dr Derelict "That Sh*t's Wild"
> Lidell Townsell "Feel The Mood"
> Mr Lee "Never Gonna Change"
> Hokus Pokus "Different World" (*especially* this track!)
> Mike 'Hitman' Wilson "Bango Acid"
> JM Silk "Music Is The Key"
> Maurice "This is Acid"
> Hot Hanas Hula "Hot Hands"
> The Porch Monkeys "Hello Lover"
> and of course the tear-jerkingly poignant "I Got A Big D*ck" by Maurice
> Joshua...
>
> Brendan
>
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> | Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:04 PM
> | To: 313@hyperreal.org
> | Subject: Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless
> |
> |
> | > hello all-
> | >
> | > i am hoping to get everyone's help in suggesting some
> | > definitive acid house tracks for downloading purposes.
> | >  i'm hoping to fill up at least a cd with mp3 tracks
> | > so i'd appreciate as many suggestions as possible.
> | >
> | > THANKS
> | >
> | > -sam
> |
> | Without listing the numerous and obvious late 80s Chicago
> | classics, here are a few off the top of my head that possibly
> | wont make too many obvious lists, but are worth digging out again
> | (I often do) Actually one would probably argue that 303 baselines
> | aside these dont really belong in the same crate as 'Acid House',
> | but if youre just looking for a funky 303 trip then here you go :)
> |
> | Twister - Underground Resistance
> | Bang the Acid - Damon Wild and Tim Taylor
> | Horses - Voodoo Child (Yes I know thats Moby!)
> | That Sysex track off the secong Plus 8 From Our Minds to yours album.
> | Plasticity - Plastikman
> | The final Frontier - UR
> | Vertigo - K Alexi
> |
> | Also I remember having these wicked 8 track white labels that I
> | think were by the Kosmic Kommando and were just all purely 303,
> | 909 and 808 made tunes, but I used to love mixing them all
> | together in one big sick trick acid set!! Man, I need to find my
> | old mix tapes :)
> |
> | Stewart
> |
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RE: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid

2002-09-02 Thread Ploegmakers, Joost
So it's not acid house if there's distortion on the 303?? That's adding a
little too much narrowmindedness to the genre I think
Acid is a feeling, just as house is ;-)

personally, I wouldn't know how to really define acid house, but it sure
isn't the 303 = acid equasion. There's plenty of brilliant acid around
without the 303. Maurice Joshua's - I got a big d*ck as one of the best
examples. And as far as distortion goes, like it or not, but Bang the Acid
is still acid. Maybe you don't think it's great and it's not from the 80's
or from Chicago or sounds like Phuture. But that doesn't mean it's not acid
house.

Joost

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I agree, this is real acid house - i.e. no distortion on the 303, unlike the
newer stuff. john.

> I'll go for some old Chicago tracks that aren't *amazingly* obvious, 
> but leave aside modern stuff (I do think that Jeff Mills and Mad Mike 
> are the John Coltrane and Pharoah Sanders of the TB303 though, as 
> evidenced on Seawolf and the Acid Rain series :) :
>
> Six Brown Brothers "City Hall"
> Dr Derelict "That Sh*t's Wild"
> Lidell Townsell "Feel The Mood"
> Mr Lee "Never Gonna Change"
> Hokus Pokus "Different World" (*especially* this track!)
> Mike 'Hitman' Wilson "Bango Acid"
> JM Silk "Music Is The Key"
> Maurice "This is Acid"
> Hot Hanas Hula "Hot Hands"
> The Porch Monkeys "Hello Lover"
> and of course the tear-jerkingly poignant "I Got A Big D*ck" by 
> Maurice Joshua...
>
> Brendan
>
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> | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:04 PM
> | To: 313@hyperreal.org
> | Subject: Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless
> |
> |
> | > hello all-
> | >
> | > i am hoping to get everyone's help in suggesting some definitive 
> | > acid house tracks for downloading purposes.  i'm hoping to fill up 
> | > at least a cd with mp3 tracks so i'd appreciate as many 
> | > suggestions as possible.
> | >
> | > THANKS
> | >
> | > -sam
> |
> | Without listing the numerous and obvious late 80s Chicago classics, 
> | here are a few off the top of my head that possibly wont make too 
> | many obvious lists, but are worth digging out again (I often do) 
> | Actually one would probably argue that 303 baselines aside these 
> | dont really belong in the same crate as 'Acid House', but if youre 
> | just looking for a funky 303 trip then here you go :)
> |
> | Twister - Underground Resistance
> | Bang the Acid - Damon Wild and Tim Taylor
> | Horses - Voodoo Child (Yes I know thats Moby!)
> | That Sysex track off the secong Plus 8 From Our Minds to yours 
> | album. Plasticity - Plastikman The final Frontier - UR
> | Vertigo - K Alexi
> |
> | Also I remember having these wicked 8 track white labels that I 
> | think were by the Kosmic Kommando and were just all purely 303, 909 
> | and 808 made tunes, but I used to love mixing them all together in 
> | one big sick trick acid set!! Man, I need to find my old mix tapes 
> | :)
> |
> | Stewart
> |
> |
> | 
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RE: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid

2002-09-02 Thread Brendan Nelson
I think there's a bit of a temptation to think that "acid house", like
hip-house, was a sub-style of house that only lasted so long, and that
subsequent records by UR, Damon Wild, Affie Yusuf et al were essentially
techno tracks with an acid sound.

I'm a big fan of continuity in music though and so I would class Bang the
Acid as an acid track. However (maybe this is just me) when I refer to acid
house I generally mean the late-80s Chicago variety, including Maurice
Joshua's ode to his penile dimensions and JM Silk's "Music Is The Key", both
non-303 tracks. However if I'm referring to the whole style of music that
started with "Acid Trax" and includes "Bang the Acid", "Seawolf", "Acid
Waves" and all the anonymous blank-label 303 stormers lurking in my record
collection, I'll use the term "acid" instead.

If the 303 is distorted, if the kick drum has that 1990s oomph rather than
the 1980s punch, if there is no 808 or 707 in the mix, that's what more
contemporary acid sounds like to me. But if there's a heavily compressed
Linn snare, a punchy RZ-1 kick drum, more of a "jacking" than "flowing"
rhythmic structure, and especially if there are vocals/samples, that's what
1980s "acid house" sounds like to me. It's all acid though!

Brendan

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| From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:16 AM
| To: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: RE: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid
|
|
| So it's not acid house if there's distortion on the 303?? That's adding a
| little too much narrowmindedness to the genre I think
| Acid is a feeling, just as house is ;-)
|
| personally, I wouldn't know how to really define acid house, but it sure
| isn't the 303 = acid equasion. There's plenty of brilliant acid around
| without the 303. Maurice Joshua's - I got a big d*ck as one of the best
| examples. And as far as distortion goes, like it or not, but Bang the Acid
| is still acid. Maybe you don't think it's great and it's not from the 80's
| or from Chicago or sounds like Phuture. But that doesn't mean
| it's not acid
| house.
|
| Joost
|
| -Original Message-
| From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: vrijdag 30 augustus 2002 1:49
| To: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid
|
|
| I agree, this is real acid house - i.e. no distortion on the 303,
| unlike the
| newer stuff. john.
|
| > I'll go for some old Chicago tracks that aren't *amazingly* obvious,
| > but leave aside modern stuff (I do think that Jeff Mills and Mad Mike
| > are the John Coltrane and Pharoah Sanders of the TB303 though, as
| > evidenced on Seawolf and the Acid Rain series :) :
| >
| > Six Brown Brothers "City Hall"
| > Dr Derelict "That Sh*t's Wild"
| > Lidell Townsell "Feel The Mood"
| > Mr Lee "Never Gonna Change"
| > Hokus Pokus "Different World" (*especially* this track!)
| > Mike 'Hitman' Wilson "Bango Acid"
| > JM Silk "Music Is The Key"
| > Maurice "This is Acid"
| > Hot Hanas Hula "Hot Hands"
| > The Porch Monkeys "Hello Lover"
| > and of course the tear-jerkingly poignant "I Got A Big D*ck" by
| > Maurice Joshua...
| >
| > Brendan
| >
| > | -Original Message-
| > | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > | Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:04 PM
| > | To: 313@hyperreal.org
| > | Subject: Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless
| > |
| > |
| > | > hello all-
| > | >
| > | > i am hoping to get everyone's help in suggesting some definitive
| > | > acid house tracks for downloading purposes.  i'm hoping to fill up
| > | > at least a cd with mp3 tracks so i'd appreciate as many
| > | > suggestions as possible.
| > | >
| > | > THANKS
| > | >
| > | > -sam
| > |
| > | Without listing the numerous and obvious late 80s Chicago classics,
| > | here are a few off the top of my head that possibly wont make too
| > | many obvious lists, but are worth digging out again (I often do)
| > | Actually one would probably argue that 303 baselines aside these
| > | dont really belong in the same crate as 'Acid House', but if youre
| > | just looking for a funky 303 trip then here you go :)
| > |
| > | Twister - Underground Resistance
| > | Bang the Acid - Damon Wild and Tim Taylor
| > | Horses - Voodoo Child (Yes I know thats Moby!)
| > | That Sysex track off the secong Plus 8 From Our Minds to yours
| > | album. Plasticity - Plastikman The final Frontier - UR
| &g

Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid

2002-09-02 Thread Placid
Personally I think the 303 defines the acid sound.  If it was made yesterday
and had nice tweaky 303 nd a nice kick I would say it was acid house

I didn't like a lot of the distroted 303 stuff  like drop bass/labworks I
just found it took away from what the 303 sounded like

Can't really get my head round  records with no 303 being acid.. Huh???

Records with no 303 in  are just house... Surely

Ps  the guy that wanted definitve acid house

Go here  http://www.acid-house.net  got mp3's  etc...


> I think there's a bit of a temptation to think that "acid house", like
> hip-house, was a sub-style of house that only lasted so long, and that
> subsequent records by UR, Damon Wild, Affie Yusuf et al were essentially
> techno tracks with an acid sound.
> 
> I'm a big fan of continuity in music though and so I would class Bang the
> Acid as an acid track. However (maybe this is just me) when I refer to acid
> house I generally mean the late-80s Chicago variety, including Maurice
> Joshua's ode to his penile dimensions and JM Silk's "Music Is The Key", both
> non-303 tracks. However if I'm referring to the whole style of music that
> started with "Acid Trax" and includes "Bang the Acid", "Seawolf", "Acid
> Waves" and all the anonymous blank-label 303 stormers lurking in my record
> collection, I'll use the term "acid" instead.
> 
> If the 303 is distorted, if the kick drum has that 1990s oomph rather than
> the 1980s punch, if there is no 808 or 707 in the mix, that's what more
> contemporary acid sounds like to me. But if there's a heavily compressed
> Linn snare, a punchy RZ-1 kick drum, more of a "jacking" than "flowing"
> rhythmic structure, and especially if there are vocals/samples, that's what
> 1980s "acid house" sounds like to me. It's all acid though!
> 
> Brendan
> 
> | -Original Message-
> | From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:16 AM
> | To: 313@hyperreal.org
> | Subject: RE: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid
> |
> |
> | So it's not acid house if there's distortion on the 303?? That's adding a
> | little too much narrowmindedness to the genre I think
> | Acid is a feeling, just as house is ;-)
> |
> | personally, I wouldn't know how to really define acid house, but it sure
> | isn't the 303 = acid equasion. There's plenty of brilliant acid around
> | without the 303. Maurice Joshua's - I got a big d*ck as one of the best
> | examples. And as far as distortion goes, like it or not, but Bang the Acid
> | is still acid. Maybe you don't think it's great and it's not from the 80's
> | or from Chicago or sounds like Phuture. But that doesn't mean
> | it's not acid
> | house.
> |
> | Joost
> |
> | -Original Message-
> | From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | Sent: vrijdag 30 augustus 2002 1:49
> | To: 313@hyperreal.org
> | Subject: Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid
> |
> |
> | I agree, this is real acid house - i.e. no distortion on the 303,
> | unlike the
> | newer stuff. john.
> |
> | > I'll go for some old Chicago tracks that aren't *amazingly* obvious,
> | > but leave aside modern stuff (I do think that Jeff Mills and Mad Mike
> | > are the John Coltrane and Pharoah Sanders of the TB303 though, as
> | > evidenced on Seawolf and the Acid Rain series :) :
> | >
> | > Six Brown Brothers "City Hall"
> | > Dr Derelict "That Sh*t's Wild"
> | > Lidell Townsell "Feel The Mood"
> | > Mr Lee "Never Gonna Change"
> | > Hokus Pokus "Different World" (*especially* this track!)
> | > Mike 'Hitman' Wilson "Bango Acid"
> | > JM Silk "Music Is The Key"
> | > Maurice "This is Acid"
> | > Hot Hanas Hula "Hot Hands"
> | > The Porch Monkeys "Hello Lover"
> | > and of course the tear-jerkingly poignant "I Got A Big D*ck" by
> | > Maurice Joshua...
> | >
> | > Brendan
> | >
> | > | -Original Message-
> | > | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > | Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:04 PM
> | > | To: 313@hyperreal.org
> | > | Subject: Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | > hello all-
> | > | >
> | > | > i am hoping to get everyone's help in suggesting some definitive
> | > | > acid house tracks for downloading purposes.  i'm hoping to fill 

RE: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid

2002-09-02 Thread Brendan Nelson
The non-303 tracks that I'd count as acid house are very rare, and I think
it's only very skilled producers who turned out tracks that still somehow
sound "acid" even though there's no 303 in there. A lot of the time, though,
you do find that a 303 is present in an almost subliminal way - maybe it's
playing a bass part and not being tweaked, for example.

The Maurice Joshua track named below actually does have a very subtle and
quiet 303 part in it (or at least the version I have does), but "Music Is
The Key" doesn't have one at all, even though the overall feel of the track
is more spikey and synthy than most house tracks of the time, with that
purposefulness of melody over rhythm that you get with classic acid house.
Strangely enough, whenever that track 'plays in my head' I always imagine a
303 part in it, and am surprised when I listen to it and find no 303 at
all...

non-303 tracks I count as acid are so few, though, that you could probably
call them "the exceptions that prove the rule". And I agree about the excess
distortion etc on the 303 - another thing that separates acid house from
more contemporary 1990s acid records is that a lot of 1990s stuff has quite
monotonous, trancey patterns for the 303 rather than the out-and-out cheeky
melodies used in the earlier Chicago stuff...

Brendan

| -Original Message-
| From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:53 PM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ploegmakers, Joost; 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid
|
|
| Personally I think the 303 defines the acid sound.  If it was
| made yesterday
| and had nice tweaky 303 nd a nice kick I would say it was acid house
|
| I didn't like a lot of the distroted 303 stuff  like drop bass/labworks I
| just found it took away from what the 303 sounded like
|
| Can't really get my head round  records with no 303 being acid..
| Huh???
|
| Records with no 303 in  are just house... Surely
|
| Ps  the guy that wanted definitve acid house
|
| Go here  http://www.acid-house.net  got mp3's  etc...
|
|
| > I think there's a bit of a temptation to think that "acid house", like
| > hip-house, was a sub-style of house that only lasted so long, and that
| > subsequent records by UR, Damon Wild, Affie Yusuf et al were essentially
| > techno tracks with an acid sound.
| >
| > I'm a big fan of continuity in music though and so I would
| class Bang the
| > Acid as an acid track. However (maybe this is just me) when I
| refer to acid
| > house I generally mean the late-80s Chicago variety, including Maurice
| > Joshua's ode to his penile dimensions and JM Silk's "Music Is
| The Key", both
| > non-303 tracks. However if I'm referring to the whole style of
| music that
| > started with "Acid Trax" and includes "Bang the Acid", "Seawolf", "Acid
| > Waves" and all the anonymous blank-label 303 stormers lurking
| in my record
| > collection, I'll use the term "acid" instead.
| >
| > If the 303 is distorted, if the kick drum has that 1990s oomph
| rather than
| > the 1980s punch, if there is no 808 or 707 in the mix, that's what more
| > contemporary acid sounds like to me. But if there's a heavily compressed
| > Linn snare, a punchy RZ-1 kick drum, more of a "jacking" than "flowing"
| > rhythmic structure, and especially if there are vocals/samples,
| that's what
| > 1980s "acid house" sounds like to me. It's all acid though!
| >
| > Brendan
| >
| > | -Original Message-
| > | From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > | Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:16 AM
| > | To: 313@hyperreal.org
| > | Subject: RE: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid
| > |
| > |
| > | So it's not acid house if there's distortion on the 303??
| That's adding a
| > | little too much narrowmindedness to the genre I think
| > | Acid is a feeling, just as house is ;-)
| > |
| > | personally, I wouldn't know how to really define acid house,
| but it sure
| > | isn't the 303 = acid equasion. There's plenty of brilliant acid around
| > | without the 303. Maurice Joshua's - I got a big d*ck as one
| of the best
| > | examples. And as far as distortion goes, like it or not, but
| Bang the Acid
| > | is still acid. Maybe you don't think it's great and it's not
| from the 80's
| > | or from Chicago or sounds like Phuture. But that doesn't mean
| > | it's not acid
| > | house.
| > |
| > | Joost
| > |
| > | -Original Message-
| > | From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > | Sent: vrijdag 30 augustus 2002 1:49
| > | To