RE: (313) Cybotron question
i have a confession as well, i'm being a bit hypocritical - i've had public spates with the moderators at discogs and delclared i would never submit another release. james www.jbucknell.com Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com To [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26/08/05 04:11 PM cc 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject RE: (313) Cybotron question I have to own up to this rather flip statement James. It wasn't Sakari. Maybe I will add the release. Discogs can be mighty frustrating at times though (despite the fact that we could barely live without it, imperfect as it is, when it was down!) K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 August 2005 01:01 Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) Cybotron question don't complain about discogs not having an entry for a record - it's a group project, and on ongoing project. you coulkd try adding the release yourself. james www.jbucknell.com Sakari Karipuro sakari.karipuro@ kotiposti.net To 313 313@hyperreal.org 23/08/05 08:44 PM cc Subject RE: (313) Cybotron question Discogs is fukt. Not even the original version of 'Clear' is in there! http://www.discogs.com/release/17859 ForwardSourceID:NT000220F2 ForwardSourceID:NT00022346
RE: (313) Cybotron question
don't complain about discogs not having an entry for a record - it's a group project, and on ongoing project. you coulkd try adding the release yourself. james www.jbucknell.com Sakari Karipuro sakari.karipuro@ kotiposti.net To 313 313@hyperreal.org 23/08/05 08:44 PM cc Subject RE: (313) Cybotron question Discogs is fukt. Not even the original version of 'Clear' is in there! http://www.discogs.com/release/17859 ForwardSourceID:NT000220F2
RE: (313) Cybotron question
I have to own up to this rather flip statement James. It wasn't Sakari. Maybe I will add the release. Discogs can be mighty frustrating at times though (despite the fact that we could barely live without it, imperfect as it is, when it was down!) K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 August 2005 01:01 Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) Cybotron question don't complain about discogs not having an entry for a record - it's a group project, and on ongoing project. you coulkd try adding the release yourself. james www.jbucknell.com Sakari Karipuro sakari.karipuro@ kotiposti.net To 313 313@hyperreal.org 23/08/05 08:44 PM cc Subject RE: (313) Cybotron question Discogs is fukt. Not even the original version of 'Clear' is in there! http://www.discogs.com/release/17859 ForwardSourceID:NT000220F2
RE: (313) Cybotron question
Just to clarify as promised: I have the blue-labelled version of 'Cosmic Raindance' with the same track list as this: http://www.discogs.com/release/4878 but it looks like this: http://www.flexx.be/result.php?type=itemNamekeyword=cybotronaction=GO It's new-looking enough to be a repress (I bought it only about 4 years ago) but sorry, I still haven't checked the year. Someone suggested it's a bootleg. It's possible, but Fantasy is actually a relatively large and long-established label. (It was founded in 1949. Its biggest artist I believe was probably Creedence Clearwater Revival). They service their back catalogue, including Cybotron, extensively and regularly, with well-pressed, nicely-packaged vinyl. Therefore, I doubt there's much of a market for bootlegs. http://www.fantasyjazz.com/ Ken
RE: (313) Cybotron question
Discogs is fukt. Not even the original version of 'Clear' is in there! http://www.discogs.com/release/17859 Anyway, I should bite my tongue really, because *we* make it what it is, or should be, so I might have to go in there and post the definitive version. Maybe it might be updated by this time next year! ;-) For the record Tom, I do indeed have the *blue-labelled* version of 'Cosmic Cars' which I posted the link for yesterday. http://www.discogs.com/release/4878 The CD 'Clear' (originally released as 'Enter') has everything tidied up and in one place, so it's a good reference. Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 August 2005 17:18 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Cybotron question Thanks people. I have the ep Ken linked and it's a fine release, with 'Alleys..' on it. It's just that I am trying to figure out if there has been a blue label Fantasy pressing of this. Gr. -- Original Message -- From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Played cosmic cars Friday so I can say yes, it's on a blue label (fantasy)disc. i have cosmic cars on a brown label fantasy release: http://www.discogs.com/release/19656 I know nothing of the disc ken just linked to though. that one is a more recent and still available version, not sure if its a boot or a legit fantasy. i have that as well. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Cybotron question
Odeluga, Ken wrote on Tue, 23 Aug 2005 about following: Discogs is fukt. Not even the original version of 'Clear' is in there! http://www.discogs.com/release/17859 I keep wondering.. that 12 has the only version dating back to 80's of Clear i've ever heard.. even that cd-reissue of Enter, named Clear has exactly the same version. So, was there some other Original version ever released on vinyl (or cd) back in the day? sakke
RE: (313) Cybotron question
Someone less vague than me, about records which they rarely dig out should say! :-) Ken -Original Message- From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 August 2005 11:45 To: 313 Subject: RE: (313) Cybotron question Odeluga, Ken wrote on Tue, 23 Aug 2005 about following: Discogs is fukt. Not even the original version of 'Clear' is in there! http://www.discogs.com/release/17859 I keep wondering.. that 12 has the only version dating back to 80's of Clear i've ever heard.. even that cd-reissue of Enter, named Clear has exactly the same version. So, was there some other Original version ever released on vinyl (or cd) back in the day? sakke
RE: (313) Cybotron question
-- Original Message -- From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] For the record Tom, I do indeed have the *blue-labelled* version of 'Cosmic Cars' which I posted the link for yesterday. http://www.discogs.com/release/4878 what is the date on it? does fantasy still (or even at that time, though i know that record still is available now) repress vinyl records? thats a kinda curious collection of tunes to get a pressing on the old fantasy label from out of nowhere. and especially considering that all those tunes are available on CD, it makes it quite possible that it is a bootleg. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Cybotron question
Hi Tom, Hope you enjoy 313. Now you mention it, I'm a little uncertain now which 12 contains 'Alleys...' not this one? http://www.discogs.com/release/4878 Or maybe it's just the colour that's throwing me? I thought Cosmic Cars was on a disc with a blue label? I'll check later. Anyway, it's maybe a moot point after the Tresor repress this year? To me that sounds like a faithful cut (it might be a bit louder but it's not compressed to kingdom come). Also, as far as I can hear, all versions are the same. Ken Greetings 313. Since this is my first post, I am not sure if this wasn't asked already recently. All of a sudden I am not so sure anymore whether there is a 12 of 'Alleys Of Your Mind' on Fantasy (besides the ep from a couple of years ago). I always thought I had seen one, but since it's not on Discogs... A propos: is the 'Cosmic Cars' 12 from 82 (much) different fom the album version? Gr, Tom
RE: (313) Cybotron question
Played cosmic cars Friday so I can say yes, it's on a blue label (fantasy)disc. But that's the one with all just cosmic cars (Detroit mix, short mix I think, etc.) they don't sound too different to me. More like edits. The Detroit mix has the bassline a little higher in the mix IIRC. I know nothing of the disc ken just linked to though. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Cybotron question Hi Tom, Hope you enjoy 313. Now you mention it, I'm a little uncertain now which 12 contains 'Alleys...' not this one? http://www.discogs.com/release/4878 Or maybe it's just the colour that's throwing me? I thought Cosmic Cars was on a disc with a blue label? I'll check later. Anyway, it's maybe a moot point after the Tresor repress this year? To me that sounds like a faithful cut (it might be a bit louder but it's not compressed to kingdom come). Also, as far as I can hear, all versions are the same. Ken Greetings 313. Since this is my first post, I am not sure if this wasn't asked already recently. All of a sudden I am not so sure anymore whether there is a 12 of 'Alleys Of Your Mind' on Fantasy (besides the ep from a couple of years ago). I always thought I had seen one, but since it's not on Discogs... A propos: is the 'Cosmic Cars' 12 from 82 (much) different fom the album version? Gr, Tom
RE: (313) Cybotron question
-- Original Message -- From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Played cosmic cars Friday so I can say yes, it's on a blue label (fantasy)disc. i have cosmic cars on a brown label fantasy release: http://www.discogs.com/release/19656 I know nothing of the disc ken just linked to though. that one is a more recent and still available version, not sure if its a boot or a legit fantasy. i have that as well. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Cybotron question
Thanks people. I have the ep Ken linked and it's a fine release, with 'Alleys..' on it. It's just that I am trying to figure out if there has been a blue label Fantasy pressing of this. Gr. -- Original Message -- From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Played cosmic cars Friday so I can say yes, it's on a blue label (fantasy)disc. i have cosmic cars on a brown label fantasy release: http://www.discogs.com/release/19656 I know nothing of the disc ken just linked to though. that one is a more recent and still available version, not sure if its a boot or a legit fantasy. i have that as well. tom andythepooh.com
