Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-20 Thread Lance @ Inaudible

On Sep 15, 2005, at 9:05 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

dan curtin might still be in cleveland but he seems to be
maintaining a generally low profile.


Dan and his wife have been living in Berlin for awhile now, as
far as I know.  My homeboy (that's American for mate, you lot)
J. Bondy (Volum/Volsoc) pal'ed around with Dan quite a bit in
Berlin before he moved back here to LA in January.

	- Greg (Who would say hi to Lance but he didn't get a 
shout-out, so ... :-P )



ha! sorry greg. i knew i was going to forget to mention a few of the 
313 legends. sorry that it was you!  : )


thanks for the confirmation on mr curtin and nice to see your posts again!


--

---Lance
6099 Creekside Lane
North Ridgeville, OH 44039
United States


Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-16 Thread Dennis Donohue


 On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

 -- Original Message --
 From: Lance @ Inaudible [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 dan curtin might still be in cleveland but he seems to be
 maintaining a generally low profile.





 god, id love to hear him dj again. heard him twice, killer both times.


Dan Curtain was just here in Belgium a month or so ago.  Killed it.

D



Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-16 Thread marsel


dan curtin lives in berlin already for a couple of years

mostly busy with deejaying, 
and a bit more low profile doing music and his label



- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...






On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


-- Original Message --
From: Lance @ Inaudible [EMAIL PROTECTED]

dan curtin might still be in cleveland but he seems to be
maintaining a generally low profile.






god, id love to hear him dj again. heard him twice, killer both times.



Dan Curtain was just here in Belgium a month or so ago.  Killed it.

D






Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-16 Thread marsel


what i forgot to say

he got a full length album coming up on tom churchill's headspace label

somewhere early next year


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To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...




dan curtin lives in berlin already for a couple of years

mostly busy with deejaying, 
and a bit more low profile doing music and his label



- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...






On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


-- Original Message --
From: Lance @ Inaudible [EMAIL PROTECTED]

dan curtin might still be in cleveland but he seems to be
maintaining a generally low profile.






god, id love to hear him dj again. heard him twice, killer both times.



Dan Curtain was just here in Belgium a month or so ago.  Killed it.

D









Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-15 Thread Greg Earle

On Sep 15, 2005, at 9:05 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

dan curtin might still be in cleveland but he seems to be
maintaining a generally low profile.


Dan and his wife have been living in Berlin for awhile now, as
far as I know.  My homeboy (that's American for mate, you lot)
J. Bondy (Volum/Volsoc) pal'ed around with Dan quite a bit in
Berlin before he moved back here to LA in January.

	- Greg (Who would say hi to Lance but he didn't get a shout-out, so 
... :-P )




Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-14 Thread diana potts

welcome back! O.G. 313 in the hizouse.

--- Ian Malbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Sep 13, 2005, at 12:29 AM, Lance @ Inaudible
 wrote:
 
  Hello all,
  Haven't been here in over 5 years but the other
 day DJ Horsepower +  
  his lovely wife hunted me down at my office in
 cleveland and  
  reminded me of the musical friends from the golden
 age
 
 Awww shi*, ol'skool 313 list in the haus.  Welcome
 back soldier.
 
 Great to see the names dropped, even if we have lost
 a few comrades.
 
 Dub is always a nice education, but the influence
 seems to have faded  
 in recent years.
 
 And what's happening in Ohio?  The MI-OH corridor
 was once strong.   
 Can it be rebuilt?
 
 -- 
 Ian
 


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Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-14 Thread Fred Heutte
I saw Steve (DJ Horsepower) at the festival.  He got dumped
in the dot-bomb crash and is now working (I think) as a
hotel desk manager but says it's OK 'cause he has more
time to make tracks on the side than when he was in
coder h3ll :)

Fred



RE: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-14 Thread Lance @ Inaudible

Lance wrote:


Currently enjoying...
- Strand - Viet EP (City Centre Offices Block 31 12)


a new release by strand, how could i have missed that?



Oops, sorry for the confusion. as some of you have found out, the 
Strand release on Thaddi Herrmann's City Centre Offices label has 
nothing to do with the Frictional/Delsin/Tactile Recordings outfit. 
the CCO Strand, who's name is actually written as S_T_R_A_N_D, is a 
Spanish produced named Miguel Gil Tertre. His ep features an 
interesting electronica+traditional instrument mix that surely isnt 
313 but an interesting listen nonetheless. There is one 313 relavence 
to the City Centre Offices label, our very own Bill Vanloo released a 
beautiful 7 on CCO back in 2001 entitled 'Tones (For Sarah).' 
probably a rarity these days but still a great listen for those who 
have it or can find it.


One last note regarding Strand - the detroit one that is... the label 
that released the last Strand record 'Pigeon Toed Orange Peel' back 
in 2002, Tactile Recordings, appears to have changed the label name 
to Harbonder and features a looping unreleased Strand track on it's 
developing website. Is Tactile/Harbonder a label run by Strand? 
Thankfully, it looks like the label will be releasing some more 
Strand material sometime in the future. visit 
http://www.harbonder.com for the brief clip of new Strand.


--

---Lance
6099 Creekside Lane
North Ridgeville, OH 44039
United States


(313) Dub - was Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-14 Thread fab.
may i also suggest the releases on Tuning Spork's sister label Futuredub. 
Very deep, very dubby, a little tech-y

Unfortunately also hard to find.

fab.

- Original Message - 
From: Lance @ Inaudible [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...



On Sep 13, 2005, at 12:29 AM, Lance @ Inaudible wrote:



Hello all,
Haven't been here in over 5 years but the other day DJ Horsepower + his 
lovely wife hunted me down at my office in cleveland and reminded me of 
the musical friends from the golden age


Awww shi*, ol'skool 313 list in the haus.  Welcome back soldier.
Great to see the names dropped, even if we have lost a few comrades.


Thanks friend. happy to be back. maybe we can encourage some of the others 
to return as well.


Dub is always a nice education, but the influence seems to have faded in 
recent years.


Dub is still out there. Check the new Deadbeat release on Scape, any of 
the Deepchord/Rod Modell stuffs on Silentes/Deepchord/Echocord, and all 
the other Echocord releases (especially those my Mikkel Metal). Visit 
these links for more infos...


http://www.techno.ca/deadbeat/
http://www.dctrax.com/
http://www.scape-music.de/
http://www.echocord.com/
http://www.mikkelmetal.dk/

if you want some legal feebie techno/ambient/dub from established artists, 
check out the Flow.ers compilation on the Sutemos netlabel. it features 
tracks from yagya, rod modell, octex, exos, and ozy to name just a few. 
nice stuff and well worth the price of admission - which is none.  : )

http://www.sutemos.net/en/

Finally, one last thing about dub. Not necessarily for this list but... 
Those interested in classic dub/reggae who havent yet started purchasing 
any may want to check out the excellent UK Blood and Fire dub/reggae 
reissue label. They has re-released-compiled the best of the best by King 
Tubby, Horace Andy, Scientist, The Congos, Lee Perry, Prince Alla, Burning 
Spear, Jah Stitch, Keith Hudson, Tappa Zukie, Glen Brown, I-Roy, Cornell 
Campbell, Johnny Clarke, Big Youth, Gregory Isaacs, Max Romeo, Yabby You, 
Trinity, Dennis Brown, Jackie Mittoo, Ranking Joe, Junior Ross,  Linval 
Thompson, Willi Williams, and Niney the Observer to name just a few. If 
you need specific recommendations i would be happy help but the real 
reason i mention Blood and Fire right now is because they have just marked 
down most of their catalog to 50% their original prices. Visit 
http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk for more information and sound samples.




And what's happening in Ohio?  The MI-OH corridor was once strong.
Can it be rebuilt?


yes ohio was once home to some excellent musicians - dan curtin, morgan 
geist, jeff samuel, hanna, titonton, twine, todd sines, steve cinch, 
metamorphic, the 21/22 corp/elemental collective, etc... but many of those 
musicians have left for more musically fertile locations. i've been out of 
the techno loop for a few years so i dont know if there has been an ohio 
'second wave' or not but i'm sure there are a few up-and-coming producers 
in ohio somewhere. we'll see if we can get them noticed when we find them!



--

---Lance
6099 Creekside Lane
North Ridgeville, OH 44039
United States







Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-14 Thread robin


One last note regarding Strand - the detroit one that is... the label 
that released the last Strand record 'Pigeon Toed Orange Peel' back in 
2002, Tactile Recordings, appears to have changed the label name to 
Harbonder and features a looping unreleased Strand track on it's 
developing website. Is Tactile/Harbonder a label run by Strand? 
Thankfully, it looks like the label will be releasing some more Strand 
material sometime in the future. visit http://www.harbonder.com for the 
brief clip of new Strand.




thanks for the heads up lanceand welcome back! :)

can't wait for that Strand thing to come out based on that small snippet.

robin...




Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-14 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: Lance @ Inaudible [EMAIL PROTECTED]

yes ohio was once home to some excellent musicians - dan curtin, 
morgan geist, jeff samuel, hanna, titonton, twine, todd sines, steve 
cinch, metamorphic, the 21/22 corp/elemental collective, etc... but 
many of those musicians have left for more musically fertile 
locations. i've been out of the techno loop for a few years so i
dont 
know if there has been an ohio 'second wave' or not but i'm sure 
there are a few up-and-coming producers in ohio somewhere. we'll see 
if we can get them noticed when we find them!

i think all of those cats except titonton moved away, and sleepy c
quit doing stuff so far as i can tell. im uncertain but i think
dan curtin might still be in cleveland but he seems to be
maintaining a generally low profile. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-14 Thread Derek Plaslaiko.



On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


-- Original Message --
From: Lance @ Inaudible [EMAIL PROTECTED]

dan curtin might still be in cleveland but he seems to be
maintaining a generally low profile.






god, id love to hear him dj again. heard him twice, killer both times.






Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-14 Thread Minto George

hey Lance! been more than a few years since that cup
of joe at Bent Crayon! and whoah! Will Web is still
lurking on here! talk about 313 ghosts!

lots of great music to catch up on Lance. keep your
eyes on the following labels:

Delsin (of course)
New Religion
Iridite (new release coming soon!)
Eevo Lute (yah stefan is at it again and new LP on the
way)
Frantic Flowers (been on a roll of late new Duplex is
nice)
Versatile (back at it with more techno leanings than
the past...can't go wrong with Joakim, Chateau Flight
and I:Cube)
NWAQ (ross 154's label with great deep release by
himself and MOS/Aroy Dee)
Ignitor (of all the Submerge labels, Orlando's seems
the most spot on! get all of em!)
Emoticon/Headspace (tom's also putting great music too
and a new Dan Curtin LP coming out too!)
Archive/Neroli(yah maybe more broken beat in content
but i think it is deep personal music and done in the
spirit of some great labels of the past).

i'm sure i have left off a few but really some great
techno still being released. hope you are here with us
to stay Lance and contribute great posts i always used
to read over the years.

minto

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Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-13 Thread Ian Malbon


On Sep 13, 2005, at 12:29 AM, Lance @ Inaudible wrote:


Hello all,
Haven't been here in over 5 years but the other day DJ Horsepower +  
his lovely wife hunted me down at my office in cleveland and  
reminded me of the musical friends from the golden age


Awww shi*, ol'skool 313 list in the haus.  Welcome back soldier.

Great to see the names dropped, even if we have lost a few comrades.

Dub is always a nice education, but the influence seems to have faded  
in recent years.


And what's happening in Ohio?  The MI-OH corridor was once strong.   
Can it be rebuilt?


--
Ian


Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-13 Thread Collin Chen

HI all,

What happened to DJ Horsepower? He does not seem to be posting as much as 
before.


Regards,

Collin 



Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-13 Thread Derek Plaslaiko.







LANCE!!


welcome back!!


oh-me-oh-my-oh

o-hi-o


derek.



On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Lance @ Inaudible wrote:


Hello all,
Haven't been here in over 5 years but the other day DJ Horsepower + his 
lovely wife hunted me down at my office in cleveland and reminded me of the 
musical friends from the golden age (dj-horsepower, j-kleine, b-vanloo, 
b-bickel, m-taylor, a-duke, m-salcido, d-sicko, i-malbon, k-williams, 
m-Macqueen, i-ackermann, Joost, t-Cooey, m-clark, m-geist, d-potts, 
g-dickerson, mumtaz, d-madmonkey, s-Silva, e-rinon, o-Koppius, marsel, 
j-Braine, j-rice, brap, t-Churchill, d-clark, d-Plaslaiko, a-Bennett, 
p-Bense, spiceee, w-Lammerts, j-branch, k-Hackett, g-davis, w-Samuels, 
a-Michelson, j-bush, r-webb, d-siska, t-Herrmann, p-Wohelski, j-berry, bleed, 
to name just a few...)


Since my last post on this list my enthusiasm for music hasn't decreased but 
my time and finances for it has. so i have some catching up to do and may be 
bothering you with more questions than answers for a time. I actually took a 
3 yr hiatus from electronic music and submersed  myself in old 70s dub and 
reggae (tubby, perry, niney, scientist, etc.) but recently i've gotten the 
electronic bug again so i'm trying to get back in y=the know-loop-groove. on 
a personal note, i've gotten married, have a home in the cleveland suburbs, 
and a busy career with Apple computers. Speaking of which it's time to get 
back to work but I just wanted to say 'hello' to all the old-school 
313-listers out there.



Currently enjoying...
- Deadbeat: new world observer (Scape)
- The Black Dog: silenced (Dust Science)
- Baby Ford: very 12 (PAL)
- Rod Modell + Michael Mantra: radio fore (Amplexus)
- Rod Modell with Kevin Hanton: illuminati audio science - deepchord 
continuious-flow mix (Silentes)

- Rod Modell: vibrasound - the deepchord years 99-04 (Silentes)
- Freq: heaven (Distance)
- AM|PM+Lump: sud 06 12 (SuD)
- Sandoz: digitial lifeforms 2xcd (InTone)
- Vladislav Delay 'The Four Quarters' cd   Huume/005, 2005
- Jirku-Judge - Private Eyes cd Onitor
- Murcof 'Remembranza' cd   Leaf, 2005
- King Tubby's - In Fine Style 2xcd (Trojan)
- Eno reissues on Astralwerks
- Sean Deason: Allegory And Metaphor (Intuit-Solar)
- Ulf Lohmann 'On Frozen Fields' 12  Kompakt
- Matthew Dear: backstroke cd (Ghostly)
- Strand - Viet EP (City Centre Offices Block 31 12)
- Pub 'Liltmore' cd  Ampoule 002 cd, 2005
- Safety Scissors: tainted lunch (Scape)
- Shadow Huntaz: valley of the shadow (Skam)
- Mouse on Mars: live 04 (Sonig)


Hello again to everyone. I'm happy to be back.


--

-- -Lance
6099 Creekside Lane
North Ridgeville, OH 44039
United States



RE: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-13 Thread jurren baars

Lance wrote:


Currently enjoying...
- Strand - Viet EP (City Centre Offices Block 31 12)


a new release by strand, how could i have missed that?

jurren (off to google, typing: strand city centre)




Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-13 Thread robin


so i'm sure it was this i listened to in the shop (boomkat/pneck) and it 
appeared to be a different Strand. at least by the sound of it it was.


can anyone shed any light on this at all?

robin...

jurren baars wrote:

Lance wrote:



Currently enjoying...
- Strand - Viet EP (City Centre Offices Block 31 12)


a new release by strand, how could i have missed that?

jurren (off to google, typing: strand city centre)




RE: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-13 Thread jurren baars

and back from google (or boomkat to be more precise)

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=17404

so strand is not strand... but someone from spain.

sounds nice anyway though :-)




Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-13 Thread robin

yeah i just looked on boomkat's site but you beat me to it Jurren :)

 STRAND - Viet EP
City Centre Offices
12 // £ 5.99
STRAND - Viet EP, City Centre Offices

City Centre Offices welcomes another new artist to the camp. Miguel Gil 
Tertre, aka Strand, is from Madrid and has been one of the key figures 
on the spanish scene for electronic music over the last couple of years. 
Miguel has been collaborating with musicians from around the globe to 
exchange sounds, ideas and influences. His first release for City Centre 
Offices is a perfect example of how important it is these days to open 
up the studio for sounds not created electronically. The Viet E.P. 
melts Strand's digital universe with ideas and sounds from his friends 
and collaborators playing guitar, flügelhorn, trumpet, violin, drums and 
the addictive singing of Paloma Sosa. Strand is neither an indieband 
going digital nor a treated powerbook looking like a guitar. Strand is 
something else, a new dimension added to the sound people call 
Indietronics, a serious approach towards the idea of merging the best of 
both worlds. Deep and haunting athmospheric melodies meet precise, 
kicking beats meet chopped up samples meet the liberating sounds of 
acoustic instruments. Lovely.



jurren baars wrote:

and back from google (or boomkat to be more precise)

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=17404

so strand is not strand... but someone from spain.

sounds nice anyway though :-)




Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-13 Thread therealmxyzptlk
Nice to see you back in the Virtual D.
No e at the end of my last name, btw. :-)
If you ever make it back up here to the Motor, drop a line...Thang Long is 
still in biz.

  jeff


 LANCE!!
 
 
 welcome back!!
 
 
  Hello all,
  Haven't been here in over 5 years but the other day DJ Horsepower + his 
  lovely wife hunted me down at my office in cleveland and reminded me of the 
  musical friends from the golden age (dj-horsepower, j-kleine, b-vanloo, 
  b-bickel, m-taylor, a-duke, m-salcido, d-sicko, i-malbon, k-williams, 
  m-Macqueen, i-ackermann, Joost, t-Cooey, m-clark, m-geist, d-potts, 
  g-dickerson, mumtaz, d-madmonkey, s-Silva, e-rinon, o-Koppius, marsel, 
  j-Braine, j-rice, brap, t-Churchill, d-clark, d-Plaslaiko, a-Bennett, 
  p-Bense, spiceee, w-Lammerts, j-branch, k-Hackett, g-davis, w-Samuels, 
  a-Michelson, j-bush, r-webb, d-siska, t-Herrmann, p-Wohelski, j-berry, 
  bleed, 
  to name just a few...)


Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-13 Thread Thorin Teague
He's around... he might even be lurking. You might hear from him in the 
not too distant future. Not necessarily talking about a 313 list post.


Collin Chen wrote:


HI all,

What happened to DJ Horsepower? He does not seem to be posting as much 
as before.


Regards,

Collin






Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-13 Thread Lance @ Inaudible

HI all,
What happened to DJ Horsepower? He does not seem to be posting as 
much as before.


When I recently talked with Horsepower he was also busy with work, 
family, life and did have as much time for music recently. but we 
both discussed our desires to get back into music more - time 
permitting of course.  :  )


--

---Lance
6099 Creekside Lane
North Ridgeville, OH 44039
United States


Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...

2005-09-13 Thread Lance @ Inaudible

On Sep 13, 2005, at 12:29 AM, Lance @ Inaudible wrote:


Hello all,
Haven't been here in over 5 years but the other day DJ Horsepower + 
his lovely wife hunted me down at my office in cleveland and 
reminded me of the musical friends from the golden age


Awww shi*, ol'skool 313 list in the haus.  Welcome back soldier.
Great to see the names dropped, even if we have lost a few comrades.


Thanks friend. happy to be back. maybe we can encourage some of the 
others to return as well.


Dub is always a nice education, but the influence seems to have 
faded in recent years.


Dub is still out there. Check the new Deadbeat release on Scape, any 
of the Deepchord/Rod Modell stuffs on Silentes/Deepchord/Echocord, 
and all the other Echocord releases (especially those my Mikkel 
Metal). Visit these links for more infos...


http://www.techno.ca/deadbeat/
http://www.dctrax.com/
http://www.scape-music.de/
http://www.echocord.com/
http://www.mikkelmetal.dk/

if you want some legal feebie techno/ambient/dub from established 
artists, check out the Flow.ers compilation on the Sutemos netlabel. 
it features tracks from yagya, rod modell, octex, exos, and ozy to 
name just a few. nice stuff and well worth the price of admission - 
which is none.  : )

http://www.sutemos.net/en/

Finally, one last thing about dub. Not necessarily for this list 
but... Those interested in classic dub/reggae who havent yet started 
purchasing any may want to check out the excellent UK Blood and Fire 
dub/reggae reissue label. They has re-released-compiled the best of 
the best by King Tubby, Horace Andy, Scientist, The Congos, Lee 
Perry, Prince Alla, Burning Spear, Jah Stitch, Keith Hudson, Tappa 
Zukie, Glen Brown, I-Roy, Cornell Campbell, Johnny Clarke, Big Youth, 
Gregory Isaacs, Max Romeo, Yabby You, Trinity, Dennis Brown, Jackie 
Mittoo, Ranking Joe, Junior Ross,  Linval Thompson, Willi Williams, 
and Niney the Observer to name just a few. If you need specific 
recommendations i would be happy help but the real reason i mention 
Blood and Fire right now is because they have just marked down most 
of their catalog to 50% their original prices. Visit 
http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk for more information and sound samples.




And what's happening in Ohio?  The MI-OH corridor was once strong.
Can it be rebuilt?


yes ohio was once home to some excellent musicians - dan curtin, 
morgan geist, jeff samuel, hanna, titonton, twine, todd sines, steve 
cinch, metamorphic, the 21/22 corp/elemental collective, etc... but 
many of those musicians have left for more musically fertile 
locations. i've been out of the techno loop for a few years so i dont 
know if there has been an ohio 'second wave' or not but i'm sure 
there are a few up-and-coming producers in ohio somewhere. we'll see 
if we can get them noticed when we find them!



--

---Lance
6099 Creekside Lane
North Ridgeville, OH 44039
United States