Re: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but WARP is oddly missing from
their list of "available" artists

not a single Warp release is listed
maybe someone had a conversation?

MEK



Re: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread Carissa Tintinalli

Taken from mnml by way of detroitluv:

"My name is Ulukman Mamytov and I am the attorney for jetgroove.com.

I bring you apologies from JetGroove for making you worry about your 
copyrights infringements and your music repertoire being presented on our 
website. I want to assure you that jetgroove.com having started a new Online 
Music Download Service pursues the objective of making your music more 
wellknown and accessible and ONLY BY LEGAL MEANS.


That means we DO NOT SELL any of your music without obtaining a proper
permission (License) from you or other respective rightholders. You can 
easily check this by trying to purchase any of you music. Everything that 
you choose to put in your cart will have status: "Not Available For purchase 
Yet". It could only be put "ON HOLD". And we do not change that status 
untill the contract is signed and your permission is granted. In this case 
all of your music will be given "Allowed for Selling" status and people who 
have it in their shopping carts will be able to buy it.


The experince of showing your music on our website without distributing 
aimed to draw your attention to us, with further goal to make contacts with 
you on friendly terms with a perspective of mutually beneficial partnership.
We're glad to inform you that your music is getting popular indeed through 
our website and we can let you know at any time how many of your tracks were 
put on hold and which ones.


However, we deeply understand your concerns and would like to assure you, if 
you find our relationships impossible, we will IMMEDIATELY delete all of 
your music from our music collection.


Hope you'll find our offer to make your music more popular through us rather 
reasonable and we can start that mutually beneficial partnership.


Very Truly Yours,


Ulukman Mamytov

Jetgroove LLP

Legal Department"

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Re: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread Martin Dust

Check this as well:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/05/russian_mp3_site/

Martin
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I just read this



http://www.e-consultancy.com/newsfeatures/284650/jetgroove-debuts-as-the-biggest-mp3-download-site-for-independent-music-and-hard-to-find-remixes.ht
ml


"Today the Beta Version launches. It is fully operational, but not all of 
the content is available for purchase. It will be available by the end of
the year when JetGroove expects to launch the next version, which will 
have several features added."


pretty optimistic of them to think they'll have it all available by the 
end of the year -that's a sh*t load of legal work to do!


MEK








 "David Bate"
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Tintinalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 thms.com>            cc:       313@hyperreal.org
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Label people/Musicians

 10/08/2004 11:40
 AM







Everyone's on there - Ghostly, M_nus, Plus 8even R.E.M. and R. Kelly
(and since when are they "underground" artists?).


Yep.. .Mike Huckaby and KDJ ...



One thing that's strange, none of the labels are actually listed, only
listed as "N/A".

Hmmm.. why put the people who are going to Sue you on the website up!




It seems like they aren't actually selling anything right now, just
gathering want lists?



They are selling stuff right now.   You have to register (I used a fake
email address).  There's a "Buy" button next to the MP3's. If you click
that, it will have you login. If you try to buy something, it says that
you have NO money in your account.  Then you can go to "Your Account"
and buy a $20 Money Card:
"
When you buy Cash Card you put certain amount of money on your JetGroove
account in advance. So when you make purchase, your JetGroove account gets
credited the necessary amount. Cash card has no expiration date, so you
can put as much money on it as you'd like and spend it as long as you
need. "


Then it asks for my credit card info.  I'd say that they are selling it.


Dave










RE: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
I just read this


  

  
 
http://www.e-consultancy.com/newsfeatures/284650/jetgroove-debuts-as-the-biggest-mp3-download-site-for-independent-music-and-hard-to-find-remixes.ht
 
 ml 
  

  

  
 "Today the Beta Version launches. It is fully operational, but not all of the 
content is available for purchase. It will be available by the end of  
 the year when JetGroove expects to launch the next version, which will have 
several features added." 

  
 pretty optimistic of them to think they'll have it all available by the end of 
the year -that's a sh*t load of legal work to do! 

  
 MEK
  

  

  






   
  "David Bate"  
   
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> Everyone's on there - Ghostly, M_nus, Plus 8even R.E.M. and R. Kelly
> (and since when are they "underground" artists?).

Yep.. .Mike Huckaby and KDJ ...


> One thing that's strange, none of the labels are actually listed, only
> listed as "N/A".
Hmmm.. why put the people who are going to Sue you on the website up!


>
> It seems like they aren't actually selling anything right now, just
> gathering want lists?


They are selling stuff right now.   You have to register (I used a fake
email address).  There's a "Buy" button next to the MP3's. If you click
that, it will have you login. If you try to buy something, it says that
you have NO money in your account.  Then you can go to "Your Account"
and buy a $20 Money Card:
"
When you buy Cash Card you put certain amount of money on your JetGroove
account in advance. So when you make purchase, your JetGroove account gets
credited the necessary amount. Cash card has no expiration date, so you
can put as much money on it as you'd like and spend it as long as you
need. "


Then it asks for my credit card info.  I'd say that they are selling it.


Dave





RE: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread David Bate
> Everyone's on there - Ghostly, M_nus, Plus 8even R.E.M. and R. Kelly
> (and since when are they "underground" artists?).

Yep.. .Mike Huckaby and KDJ ...


> One thing that's strange, none of the labels are actually listed, only
> listed as "N/A".
Hmmm.. why put the people who are going to Sue you on the website up!


>
> It seems like they aren't actually selling anything right now, just
> gathering want lists?


They are selling stuff right now.   You have to register (I used a fake
email address).  There's a "Buy" button next to the MP3's. If you click
that, it will have you login. If you try to buy something, it says that
you have NO money in your account.  Then you can go to "Your Account"
and buy a $20 Money Card:
"
When you buy Cash Card you put certain amount of money on your JetGroove
account in advance. So when you make purchase, your JetGroove account gets
credited the necessary amount. Cash card has no expiration date, so you
can put as much money on it as you'd like and spend it as long as you
need. "


Then it asks for my credit card info.  I'd say that they are selling it.


Dave


RE: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread Carissa Tintinalli
Everyone's on there - Ghostly, M_nus, Plus 8even R.E.M. and R. Kelly 
(and since when are they "underground" artists?).


One thing that's strange, none of the labels are actually listed, only 
listed as "N/A".


I posted this comment on detroitluv.com as well:

It seems like they aren't actually selling anything right now, just 
gathering want lists? You'd think they would get permission before putting 
tracks up, unless their angle might be to use these want lists to show 
artists that it's worthwhile to make a deal with them.


If that's the case, it's still shady, but I'm wondering if it will be harder 
to get them to stop if they haven't actually sold anything


Also, considering it's a Russian outfit, would artists wanting them to stop 
have to go through the Russian legal system, or that of their home country?




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To: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:29:14 -0400

Technoir, Delsin, Headspace, Emoticon, Iridite and Down Low?!

They're even selling mp3's of the Thinner Allstars EP.

Wankers are barking up the wrong tree, if you ask me.


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RE: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread Pryor, Ryan N
Technoir, Delsin, Headspace, Emoticon, Iridite and Down Low?!

They're even selling mp3's of the Thinner Allstars EP.

Wankers are barking up the wrong tree, if you ask me.


Re: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread alex . bond
Just heard BPI are aware of this site and are on the case.
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Re: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread alex . bond
>Plenty of UR up there too. They have been notified to keep an eye on
this...

Ha!

UR Soldiers vs Russian MP3 Mafia

Now there's a celebrity deathmatch I'd like to see.

Alex

(nearly as good as the darren spow/fightclub one eh T/D?!)


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Re: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread alex . bond
Well, at least if they've got a lawyer, then things should be sorted out
OK.

By total coincidence though, someone else just mentioned it to me at lunch.
Apparently a couple of people have had an email through.
Verdict was it looked a bit shady, I dunno, just one to keep an eye on I
reckon.

Oh, btw, I just saw Alicia Keys! (ha! Tim/Danny you missed her ; ) )

She's hot.
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RE: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread D1


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I guess it would be great if they could generate some money for small
labels...

But, I dunno, I'd just be a little nervous about the fact that no one seems
to have any contact asking permission or anything.

But, you are right Marsel, I guess there's nothing to worry about just yet
as nothings been sold, but I don't know, guess it's best everyone is aware?
_

Thanks for putting us onto this.. It all seems very suspect, there's a lot
of music up there, our own included. Somehow I have a feeling we won't be
getting a call from them anytime soon !
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RE: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread lee herrington


  Just some additional info

  CrossVentures, Ltd. Dba Jetgroove LLP
  Suite 12, 3rd Floor, Queens House
  280 Tattenham Court Road
  London

  Domain registered through Hurricane Electric


  Cheers,
  lrh

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Everyone needs to check this thread urgently:

http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=90090#90090

These feckers are selling mp3's and they're not authorised.

Please, everybody check as soon as you can.

Alex


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Re: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread Martin Dust
This is a Russian outfit - everything is registered to a lawyers suite in 
London...


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I guess it would be great if they could generate some money for small
labels...

But, I dunno, I'd just be a little nervous about the fact that no one 
seems

to have any contact asking permission or anything.

But, you are right Marsel, I guess there's nothing to worry about just yet
as nothings been sold, but I don't know, guess it's best everyone is 
aware?

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Re: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread alex . bond
I guess it would be great if they could generate some money for small
labels...

But, I dunno, I'd just be a little nervous about the fact that no one seems
to have any contact asking permission or anything.

But, you are right Marsel, I guess there's nothing to worry about just yet
as nothings been sold, but I don't know, guess it's best everyone is aware?
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Re: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread David Beattie
Even if they dont have the songs available at the
moment surely if they have a database of wants lists
from people there is an opportunity to put a certain
track/artist/label online for a short period and
notify those who are waiting for it. Let them download
it and then take it off before the artist/label knows
anything.

I would register an interest in your own stuff just to
make sure this doesnt happen.

Cheers
BT

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> > Jesus Marsel, Have you seen how much of your stuff
> is up there?
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> >
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http://www.jetgroove.com/results.html?page=1&Submit2=Submit2&searchcriteria=label&searchstr=delsin
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> > Have you had any contact with this people at all?
> >
> > Everybody's got to check, seems they have lots and
> lots of stuff on there.
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> > If anyone finds out whats going on, could they let
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Re: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread Marsel // Nomorewords.net

yeah
i saw
:-)

they have 'everything'
i feel honoured

awaiting their offer now


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Jesus Marsel, Have you seen how much of your stuff is up there?

http://www.jetgroove.com/results.html?page=1&Submit2=Submit2&searchcriteria=label&searchstr=delsin

Have you had any contact with this people at all?

Everybody's got to check, seems they have lots and lots of stuff on there.

If anyone finds out whats going on, could they let me know?

Ta

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Re: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread alex . bond
Jesus Marsel, Have you seen how much of your stuff is up there?

http://www.jetgroove.com/results.html?page=1&Submit2=Submit2&searchcriteria=label&searchstr=delsin

Have you had any contact with this people at all?

Everybody's got to check, seems they have lots and lots of stuff on there.

If anyone finds out whats going on, could they let me know?

Ta

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Re: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians

2004-10-08 Thread Marsel // Nomorewords.net


i registered, and tried..
result:

"
These Tracks are not Available Yet
These tracks are not available for purchase at the moment.
You can leave them in your basket and we will inform you by mail when they 
become available.

"

it seems like they are building up a database
but no selling of tracks yet.

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Everyone needs to check this thread urgently:

http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=90090#90090

These feckers are selling mp3's and they're not authorised.

Please, everybody check as soon as you can.

Alex


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