RE: [313] british electronic foundation
Woh ... rewind that von Oswald bit! How'd that come about? -Original Message- From: Mxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:44 PM To: Frederic Madre Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] british electronic foundation mmm, I got confused. it _is a collaboration song with holger hiller on his lp oben im eck and I should know cause I loved holger hiller too... Ah...Holger...Dorau...and the band from which they sprang, Palais Schuamberg - and to make it a bit more 313 relevant, didn't M. Von Oswald play drums with them as well (also produced some of Mackenzie's later stuff)? Holger is another highly unsung hero of the period. Amazing stuff!!! jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
At 01:21 AM 1/25/2002, you wrote: Woh ... rewind that von Oswald bit! How'd that come about? mmm, I got confused. it _is a collaboration song with holger hiller on his lp oben im eck and I should know cause I loved holger hiller too... Ah...Holger...Dorau...and the band from which they sprang, Palais Schuamberg - and to make it a bit more 313 relevant, didn't M. Von Oswald play drums with them as well (also produced some of Mackenzie's later stuff)? Probably via his Holger Hiller connection. The MacKenzie ep he produced was Colours Will Come around 90-91. jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
Sorry, no British number one smashes for Associates -- they barely even hit the Top Ten (once with Party Fears Two from early '82). Two others in the Top 40: Club Country (mid-'82) and Love Hangover/18 Carat Love Affair (late '82). John -Original Message- From: Mxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 8:27 PM To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] british electronic foundation Some of the lyrics would help! If it was '82, it was probably Party Fears Two or Club Country. If it was a bit later (say 1- 2 years) it might have been Waiting for the Love Boat Those First Impressions or Perhaps. If it was earlier it could have been White Car In Germany, Kitchen Person, Q-Quarters...and that's not taking anything into account from The Affectionate Punch (their 1st lp). jeff At 04:57 AM 1/23/2002, you wrote: Sorry I got this wrong, it was only MacKenzie, Rankine lives on ... we had this discussion yesterday - but no harm reiterating ... Can anyone remember their number 1 UK smash, circa 1982/3? ... I remember some of the lyrics but not the title ... Those were strange times to grow up in ... subversive musuc still got on telly in those days ... now, where's me Zimmer? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
My frame of reference was more of what was making waves then in terms of the UK music press and what my circle of friends (other music nerds) commonly acknowledged as stellar during the period. jeff At 07:00 AM 1/24/2002, John Bush wrote: Sorry, no British number one smashes for Associates -- they barely even hit the Top Ten (once with Party Fears Two from early '82). Two others in the Top 40: Club Country (mid-'82) and Love Hangover/18 Carat Love Affair (late '82). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
mmm, I got confused. it _is a collaboration song with holger hiller on his lp oben im eck and I should know cause I loved holger hiller too... Ah...Holger...Dorau...and the band from which they sprang, Palais Schuamberg - and to make it a bit more 313 relevant, didn't M. Von Oswald play drums with them as well (also produced some of Mackenzie's later stuff)? Holger is another highly unsung hero of the period. Amazing stuff!!! jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
At 17:44 24/01/2002 -0600, Mxyzptlk wrote: Ah...Holger...Dorau...and the band from which they sprang, Palais Schuamberg - and to make it a bit more 313 relevant, didn't M. Von Oswald play drums with them as well sure, with thomas fehlmann f. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
well, perhaps. but shortly before dying he released a solo LP He did one called Beyond the Sun in 1997 on Nude records. Other than Outernational and some eps (Colours Will Come - produced by M. Von Oritz), I know of nothing entitled Whippets. If you have some more info on this please forward it - I'd love to own it. Mackenzie also did a collaboration with Paul Haig (there's another one!) released not all that long ago on Paul's label. what's the name of that label ? is he still releasing music ?! The label is called Rol (Rhythm of Life) records and the collab (recorded between '93-'95 and released in '99) is called Memory Palace. There's a link to ROL as well as a complete discog here http://www.billymackenzie.com/ Apparently ROL has dug up some other eps which they have for sale also. I know I had to order Memory Palace online via them. Not up to the old Associates' standards imo, though. Note also that WB is supposedly going to release the ultra-rare promo only Glamour Chase. jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
Sorry I got this wrong, it was only MacKenzie, Rankine lives on ... we had this discussion yesterday - but no harm reiterating ... Can anyone remember their number 1 UK smash, circa 1982/3? ... I remember some of the lyrics but not the title ... Those were strange times to grow up in ... subversive musuc still got on telly in those days ... now, where's me Zimmer? -Original Message- From: Mxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:39 PM To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] british electronic foundation I know Billy MacKenzie committed suicide shortly after his mother's death, but I hadn't heard about Rankine. BTW, Whippets were the breed of dogs MacKenzie raised. jeff At 08:25 AM 1/22/2002, you wrote: Yes ... Alan Rankin toped himself a few years ago - or so ... You live through it 80s and top yourself in the 90s?!? ... beautiful faux operatic voice though. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
Of course you know it's a pseudonym for Heaven 17 right? Recorded tracks with Tina Turner long before her comeback (whihc they played a large part in - Martyn Ware produced Let's Stay Together ... I believe they had 2 well recieved LPs (I seem to remember). Also did, I think These Boots Are Made For Walking can't remember the vocalist - somebody arch, idiosyncratic and Northern (they were from Sheffield.) One of those outfits you have in the back of your mind to buy and then suddenly, you're 30 years old and they've become an obscure early electronic outfit ... :o) -Original Message- From: RC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:37 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] british electronic foundation can anyone point out some links to info about this elusive early electronic outfit and/or better yet some soundbytes? ta peace rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
At 12:42 22/01/02 +, Odeluga, Ken wrote: the back of your mind to buy and then suddenly, you're 30 years old and they've become an obscure early electronic outfit ... :o) indeed! they were not _that early and they were not brilliant either what about the associates ? f. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
There's info at allmusic: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgsql=Bqn09kett7q7m Slightly poppier than I'd like to hear, but I still think they were very brilliant -- just listen to, well, Music for Listening To. John -Original Message- From: RC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:37 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] british electronic foundation can anyone point out some links to info about this elusive early electronic outfit and/or better yet some soundbytes? ta peace rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
not brilliant at all collaborations with gary glitter, tina turner, amongst others At 13:58 22.01.02 +0100, you wrote: At 12:42 22/01/02 +, Odeluga, Ken wrote: the back of your mind to buy and then suddenly, you're 30 years old and they've become an obscure early electronic outfit ... :o) indeed! they were not _that early and they were not brilliant either what about the associates ? f. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
Yes ... Alan Rankin toped himself a few years ago - or so ... You live through it 80s and top yourself in the 90s?!? ... beautiful faux operatic voice though. -Original Message- From: Frederic Madre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: [313] british electronic foundation At 12:42 22/01/02 +, Odeluga, Ken wrote: the back of your mind to buy and then suddenly, you're 30 years old and they've become an obscure early electronic outfit ... :o) indeed! they were not _that early and they were not brilliant either what about the associates ? f. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
... and Green Gartside ... who you also probably don't dig. But whose lyrics are the amongst the most eliptical and entertaining you'll find ... -Original Message- From: Niko Tzoukmanis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:28 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] british electronic foundation not brilliant at all collaborations with gary glitter, tina turner, amongst others At 13:58 22.01.02 +0100, you wrote: At 12:42 22/01/02 +, Odeluga, Ken wrote: the back of your mind to buy and then suddenly, you're 30 years old and they've become an obscure early electronic outfit ... :o) indeed! they were not _that early and they were not brilliant either what about the associates ? f. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
De : Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Green Gartside ... who you also probably don't dig. But whose lyrics are the amongst the most eliptical and entertaining you'll find ... specially in the first releases of scritti politti on their own st pancras label and up to 'the word girl' or 'the sweetest girl' then he kinda dissolved into his own stardom, apart from the pristine absolue track btw, it's billy mackenzie that commited suicide, not alan rankine. anybody heard his last one whippets ? for some reason I did not buy it when it was released f. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
Oops thx a bunch for the correction Frederic, sorry if I irritated/misled anyone in the meantime ...(only on that specific point though ;o)... 'Songs To Remember' are just that don't you think? I keep hearing stuff in that which I hadn't heard before, even 20 years later ... If I'd recommend anything to anyone here, it would be check out Scritti Politti ... a True People, if there were ever any. -Original Message- From: Frederic Madre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:36 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] british electronic foundation De : Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Green Gartside ... who you also probably don't dig. But whose lyrics are the amongst the most eliptical and entertaining you'll find ... specially in the first releases of scritti politti on their own st pancras label and up to 'the word girl' or 'the sweetest girl' then he kinda dissolved into his own stardom, apart from the pristine absolue track btw, it's billy mackenzie that commited suicide, not alan rankine. anybody heard his last one whippets ? for some reason I did not buy it when it was released f. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] british electronic foundation
BEF was the production company or affilliation used/ran by Heaven 17 - shortly after they split off from the original Human League, I believe. I'm not sure how much more than H17 was issued by them. jeff At 06:36 AM 1/22/2002, you wrote: can anyone point out some links to info about this elusive early electronic outfit and/or better yet some soundbytes? ta peace rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
Now *they* WERE some glow-in-the-dark brilliant stuff - especially when it was Alan Rankine + Billy MacKenzie (R.I.P.) 'Bout time I saw that name dropped somewhere. jeff A: the back of your mind to buy and then suddenly, you're 30 years old and they've become an obscure early electronic outfit ... :o) indeed! they were not _that early and they were not brilliant either what about the associates ? f. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
I thought Whippets was a track on one of the Holger Hiller records on which Billy sang. Mackenzie also did a collaboration with Paul Haig (there's another one!) released not all that long ago on Paul's label. jeff ps Scritti Politti (unfortunately) was still making records not all that long ago. The first 2-3 records were lovely, but then At 07:35 AM 1/22/2002, you wrote: De : Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Green Gartside ... who you also probably don't dig. But whose lyrics are the amongst the most eliptical and entertaining you'll find ... specially in the first releases of scritti politti on their own st pancras label and up to 'the word girl' or 'the sweetest girl' then he kinda dissolved into his own stardom, apart from the pristine absolue track btw, it's billy mackenzie that commited suicide, not alan rankine. anybody heard his last one whippets ? for some reason I did not buy it when it was released f. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
I know Billy MacKenzie committed suicide shortly after his mother's death, but I hadn't heard about Rankine. BTW, Whippets were the breed of dogs MacKenzie raised. jeff At 08:25 AM 1/22/2002, you wrote: Yes ... Alan Rankin toped himself a few years ago - or so ... You live through it 80s and top yourself in the 90s?!? ... beautiful faux operatic voice though. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] british electronic foundation
I know Billy MacKenzie committed suicide shortly after his mother's death, but I hadn't heard about Rankine. BTW, Whippets were the breed of dogs MacKenzie raised. jeff Allan Rankine will be most upset to hear of his untimely demise as he is still alive and well and lecturing in Music Business at Stow College in my native Glasgow -admittedly he likes a good drink and was occasionally spotted looking a bit grey on a Monday morning now and again when I was studying there, but then don't we all? Jason Brunton Iridite - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] british electronic foundation
At 16:34 22/01/2002 -0600, Mxyzptlk wrote: I thought Whippets was a track on one of the Holger Hiller records on which Billy sang. well, perhaps. but shortly before dying he released a solo LP Mackenzie also did a collaboration with Paul Haig (there's another one!) released not all that long ago on Paul's label. what's the name of that label ? is he still releasing music ?! f. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
