RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-09-03 Thread ani
i meant polar / nonpolar  ;)

now i've completely killed the thread...

ani

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: : remember all you chemists out there:  like dissolves like!  ;)
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: : well, yes, but since most dirt will be lipid based (greasy
: : fingers and all)
: : this would mean you'd have to pour oil on your records. Not good.



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RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Alvin Sirel
distilled water?

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hi there

managed to track down a copy of the classic Throbbing Gristle LP, was 
thinking about transferring it to cd, so obviously I would like to get the 
best possible copy, does anyone know which solvents clean vinyl up the 
best, and which solvents to avoid (would rather not melt the vinyl!). Work 
in lab, so access to various solvents.

nice to see the 313 producing interesting and informative threads, one 
request, for all us digest users, could everyone not resend the entire 
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RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Langsman, Marc
I always find some washing-up liquid followed by a quick rinse does the
trick for those super-grubby tunes ! 

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distilled water?

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hi there

managed to track down a copy of the classic Throbbing Gristle LP, was 
thinking about transferring it to cd, so obviously I would 
like to get the 
best possible copy, does anyone know which solvents clean vinyl up the 
best, and which solvents to avoid (would rather not melt the 
vinyl!). Work 
in lab, so access to various solvents.

nice to see the 313 producing interesting and informative threads, one 
request, for all us digest users, could everyone not resend the entire 
thread with each new post, end up scrolling down more than 
reading with the 
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RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Robert Taylor
bleach? ;-)

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managed to track down a copy of the classic Throbbing Gristle LP, was 
thinking about transferring it to cd, so obviously I would like to get the 
best possible copy, does anyone know which solvents clean vinyl up the 
best, and which solvents to avoid (would rather not melt the vinyl!). Work 
in lab, so access to various solvents.

nice to see the 313 producing interesting and informative threads, one 
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RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Langsman, Marc
I'm not sure what the international equivalent of Fairy Liquid is :[
detergent ?  

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bleach? ;-)

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hi there

managed to track down a copy of the classic Throbbing Gristle LP, was 
thinking about transferring it to cd, so obviously I would 
like to get the 
best possible copy, does anyone know which solvents clean vinyl up the 
best, and which solvents to avoid (would rather not melt the 
vinyl!). Work 
in lab, so access to various solvents.

nice to see the 313 producing interesting and informative threads, one 
request, for all us digest users, could everyone not resend the entire 
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RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Alvin Sirel
maybe you can tell us, what is fairy liquid made for? laundry, toilet, ...?

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I'm not sure what the international equivalent of Fairy Liquid is :[
detergent ?  

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bleach? ;-)

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hi there

managed to track down a copy of the classic Throbbing Gristle LP, was 
thinking about transferring it to cd, so obviously I would 
like to get the 
best possible copy, does anyone know which solvents clean vinyl up the 
best, and which solvents to avoid (would rather not melt the 
vinyl!). Work 
in lab, so access to various solvents.

nice to see the 313 producing interesting and informative threads, one 
request, for all us digest users, could everyone not resend the entire 
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Re: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Tristan Watkins
Distilled Water is the cheapest and one of the best. Can also try
Gruveglide. I'd just use the distilled H20 myself. I know many a record
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 managed to track down a copy of the classic Throbbing Gristle LP, was
 thinking about transferring it to cd, so obviously I would like to get the
 best possible copy, does anyone know which solvents clean vinyl up the
 best, and which solvents to avoid (would rather not melt the vinyl!). Work
 in lab, so access to various solvents.

 nice to see the 313 producing interesting and informative threads, one
 request, for all us digest users, could everyone not resend the entire
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RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Robert Taylor
washing up - for hands that do dishes that are as soft as your face, use
mild green fairy liquid

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maybe you can tell us, what is fairy liquid made for? laundry, toilet, ?

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I'm not sure what the international equivalent of Fairy Liquid is :[
detergent ?  

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bleach? ;-)

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distilled water?

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hi there

managed to track down a copy of the classic Throbbing Gristle LP, was 
thinking about transferring it to cd, so obviously I would 
like to get the 
best possible copy, does anyone know which solvents clean vinyl up the 
best, and which solvents to avoid (would rather not melt the 
vinyl!). Work 
in lab, so access to various solvents.

nice to see the 313 producing interesting and informative threads, one 
request, for all us digest users, could everyone not resend the entire 
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RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Langsman, Marc wrote on Fri, 30 Aug 2002 about following:

 I always find some washing-up liquid followed by a quick rinse does the
 trick for those super-grubby tunes ! 

will ruin the records in the long run. just use distilled water.
 
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RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Langsman, Marc
Surely water doenst take out any greasy grime ? 
[and i wanna be able to see my reflection in those 12's !!]

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Distilled Water is the cheapest and one of the best. Can also try
Gruveglide. I'd just use the distilled H20 myself. I know many a record
store that swear by it.

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Subject: [313] cleaning vinyl


 hi there

 managed to track down a copy of the classic Throbbing Gristle LP, was
 thinking about transferring it to cd, so obviously I would 
like to get the
 best possible copy, does anyone know which solvents clean 
vinyl up the
 best, and which solvents to avoid (would rather not melt the 
vinyl!). Work
 in lab, so access to various solvents.

 nice to see the 313 producing interesting and informative 
threads, one
 request, for all us digest users, could everyone not resend 
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Re: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Paul Hudson
www.discdoc.com

is fantastic stuff but maybe a bit too expensive for you to do just the 1
record!!

The BBC uses an Isopropyl alcohol/distilled water mixture to clean the
records in their sound archives.


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 managed to track down a copy of the classic Throbbing Gristle LP, was
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 best possible copy, does anyone know which solvents clean vinyl up the
 best, and which solvents to avoid (would rather not melt the vinyl!). Work
 in lab, so access to various solvents.

 nice to see the 313 producing interesting and informative threads, one
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RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Warm slightly soapy water. But I find the whole thing quite tedious. So
maybe try the record cleaning service from smalfish:

http:www.smallfish.co.uk

Quite expensive I seem to remember though ...

k

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Surely water doenst take out any greasy grime ?
[and i wanna be able to see my reflection in those 12's !!]

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Distilled Water is the cheapest and one of the best. Can also try
Gruveglide. I'd just use the distilled H20 myself. I know many a record
store that swear by it.

Tristan
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 thinking about transferring it to cd, so obviously I would
like to get the
 best possible copy, does anyone know which solvents clean
vinyl up the
 best, and which solvents to avoid (would rather not melt the
vinyl!). Work
 in lab, so access to various solvents.

 nice to see the 313 producing interesting and informative
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Re: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Tristan Watkins
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 Surely water doenst take out any greasy grime ?
 [and i wanna be able to see my reflection in those 12's !!]


Here's a description of Gruv-Glide.

http://www.amusicdirect.com/products/detail.asp?sku=AGRUVGL

Doing a google search will turn up more descriptions like this. Not sure
about 'greasy grime'. You want to avoid anything that will also eat away at
the vinyl though. In some cases the grime may be less detrimental than the
solvent. I'd still try distilled water first and if it doesn't work track
down some gruv-glide - 2nd-hand record shops may stock it.

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RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Alvin Sirel
water contains different minerals that will stain your vinyl when it dries up. 
soap and detergents might stain, too. distilled water or some pure alcohol are 
probably the best.

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Warm slightly soapy water. But I find the whole thing quite tedious. So
maybe try the record cleaning service from smalfish:

http:www.smallfish.co.uk

Quite expensive I seem to remember though ...

k

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Surely water doenst take out any greasy grime ?
[and i wanna be able to see my reflection in those 12's !!]

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From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [313] cleaning vinyl


Distilled Water is the cheapest and one of the best. Can also try
Gruveglide. I'd just use the distilled H20 myself. I know many a record
store that swear by it.

Tristan
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Subject: [313] cleaning vinyl


 hi there

 managed to track down a copy of the classic Throbbing Gristle LP, was
 thinking about transferring it to cd, so obviously I would
like to get the
 best possible copy, does anyone know which solvents clean
vinyl up the
 best, and which solvents to avoid (would rather not melt the
vinyl!). Work
 in lab, so access to various solvents.

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RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

I'm not sure what the international equivalent of Fairy Liquid is :[
detergent ?


It's a liquid dish washing soap - and that brings back some memories of
visiting the fam in Scotland - thanks Marc!

MEK


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RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-08-30 Thread ani
i found a copy of no ufo's that had so much mildew it was almost
unrecognizable.  i used a 1/10 solution of 90% isopropyl alcohol / distilled
water, and gentle rubbing with a clean cloth to clean both the vinyl and
label.

-alcohols (isopropyl/ethanol) seem to work well.  like eyeglass cleaners
which use dilute solutions, so they're not as stripping *don't use full
strength alcohols*
-some people use plain water, but it won't remove greasy (nonpolar) dirt
-since acetone melts everything, avoid it even in dilute solutions
-some people ammonia glass cleaner (windex), but i avoid these
-gruv glide uses petroleum distillates, but i don't see many of those in the
lab

remember all you chemists out there:  like dissolves like!  ;)

for less dirty records, i use gruv glide, because it's not water based and
cleans light dirt (fingerprints, dust) without making the record wet.

ani

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: : To: 313@hyperreal.org
: : Subject: [313] cleaning vinyl
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: : hi there
: :
: : managed to track down a copy of the classic Throbbing Gristle LP, was
: : thinking about transferring it to cd, so obviously I would like
: : to get the
: : best possible copy, does anyone know which solvents clean vinyl up the
: : best, and which solvents to avoid (would rather not melt the
: : vinyl!). Work
: : in lab, so access to various solvents.
: :
: : nice to see the 313 producing interesting and informative threads, one
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: : thread with each new post, end up scrolling down more than
: : reading with the
: : past couple of digests!
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: : jason
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