RE: [313] don't make estate tax permanent (OT)
sorry to do this. but i strongly disagree. it greatly hurts agricultural (farmers) families. it also disincents anyone to work hard, becuase so much is taken away at the end. granted, the rich will get richer. but that will happen no matter what. it will also prevent the current middle class from acquiring the wealth they need to make the leap to being rich. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:25 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] don't make estate tax permanent (OT) sometime soon, the senate is going to vote on whether to make the repeal of the estate tax permanent. this tax, paid only by the wealthiest of the wealthy upon inheritance, if repealed permanently would further increase the gap between the wealthy and the rest of us. i don't usually ask people on the various lists i participate in to call their senators, but i feel very strongly about this. if you have a bit of time to call or email your senators, and you believe the estate tax should NOT be repealed permanently, please contact your senator: http://www.senate.gov/contacting/index_by_state.cfm If you want information about the estate tax (albeit from my viewpoint) check out: http://www.responsiblewealth.org/action_alerts/index.html please feel free to forward. peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] don't make estate tax permanent (OT)
Yeah, but isn't what is really hurting agricultural families is corporate farming? it will also prevent the current middle class from acquiring the wealth they need to make the leap to being rich. I have a problem with this - making the leap to being rich means someone else is making the fall to being poor - that money has to come from somewhere. What is wrong with being middle class? Why is accumulating more privately held wealth seen as progress? MEK Holly MacDonald-Korth To: 'Lester Kenyatta Spence' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: .comSubject: RE: [313] don't make estate tax permanent (OT) 06/12/02 12:06 PM sorry to do this. but i strongly disagree. it greatly hurts agricultural (farmers) families. it also disincents anyone to work hard, becuase so much is taken away at the end. granted, the rich will get richer. but that will happen no matter what. it will also prevent the current middle class from acquiring the wealth they need to make the leap to being rich. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:25 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] don't make estate tax permanent (OT) sometime soon, the senate is going to vote on whether to make the repeal of the estate tax permanent. this tax, paid only by the wealthiest of the wealthy upon inheritance, if repealed permanently would further increase the gap between the wealthy and the rest of us. i don't usually ask people on the various lists i participate in to call their senators, but i feel very strongly about this. if you have a bit of time to call or email your senators, and you believe the estate tax should NOT be repealed permanently, please contact your senator: http://www.senate.gov/contacting/index_by_state.cfm If you want information about the estate tax (albeit from my viewpoint) check out: http://www.responsiblewealth.org/action_alerts/index.html please feel free to forward. peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] don't make estate tax permanent (OT)
i'm afraid i disagree with you. in most countries the wealth is kept within families and passed down through generations often without having to be earned. it maintains the oppressive hierarchy that is the status quo and ensures that those beneath have little or less chance of progression or gaining wealth. sometimes this wealth can be traced back to feudal systems and indentured labour, do you think they were fair? or what about the wealth families built on the backs of slaves, how else does this end up as any form of reperation? yes, it can sometimes seem unfair and hurt those who don't seem that well off. but this is only because most governments have their interests vested in maintaining this order and therefore will not introduce a more equitable sliding scale. anyway, i don't believe in the merits of a society where monetary wealth is the pinnacle of achievement. let's all share :) you don't need to tell me this is off topic, but some things are as important as music! -Original Message- From: Holly MacDonald-Korth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Lester Kenyatta Spence' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: 12 June 2002 18:08 Subject: RE: [313] don't make estate tax permanent (OT) sorry to do this. but i strongly disagree. it greatly hurts agricultural (farmers) families. it also disincents anyone to work hard, becuase so much is taken away at the end. granted, the rich will get richer. but that will happen no matter what. it will also prevent the current middle class from acquiring the wealth they need to make the leap to being rich. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:25 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] don't make estate tax permanent (OT) sometime soon, the senate is going to vote on whether to make the repeal of the estate tax permanent. this tax, paid only by the wealthiest of the wealthy upon inheritance, if repealed permanently would further increase the gap between the wealthy and the rest of us. i don't usually ask people on the various lists i participate in to call their senators, but i feel very strongly about this. if you have a bit of time to call or email your senators, and you believe the estate tax should NOT be repealed permanently, please contact your senator: http://www.senate.gov/contacting/index_by_state.cfm If you want information about the estate tax (albeit from my viewpoint) check out: http://www.responsiblewealth.org/action_alerts/index.html please feel free to forward. peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] don't make estate tax permanent (OT)
I'LL MAKE THIS ONE RESPONSE PUBLIC, AND THEN TAKE OTHER RESPONSES OFF LINE. On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Holly MacDonald-Korth wrote: sorry to do this. but i strongly disagree. it greatly hurts agricultural (farmers) families. it also disincents anyone to work hard, becuase so much is taken away at the end. There is no proof that this hurts farmers. I've seen the line that it does, but have yet to see one example of a farmer that has been affected negatively. And exactly how does this disincentive process work? I'm rich...and want to give my wealth to my children. From the standpoint of the donor, I could make an argument that the tax will make donors work HARDER (in order to give more money after taxes to their progeny). But there is also another argument from the standpoint of the inheritor. Doesn't wealth itself provide a disincentive to work? Why would I as an inheritor want to work if I've already been given enough money to provide for my needs, AND THE NEEDS OF MY PROGENY? This is actually an argument for a larger rather than smaller estate tax... granted, the rich will get richer. but that will happen no matter what. If this is the case, then an estate tax won't hurt...because whether the tax exists or not has nothing to do with acquiring wealth. it will also prevent the current middle class from acquiring the wealth they need to make the leap to being rich. How? They aren't effected by the tax. peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]