Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice?
I've heard plenty of reports questioning the durability of the AH mixers (well, the 62 and the 464) - apparently the Pioneers are the most indestructible, but don't have anything approximating the sound quality. Perhaps the 92 has got these issues ironed out - it certainly looks more rugged, and finally combines features from all the previous models into one unit, as well as having 'DJ-style' fader knobs rather than 'engineer-style' fader knobs... If you can manage without linear faders, the Rane 2016 is super hot. I do like vestax mixers as well (I REALLY like the PMC-250 with those dual EQ's), but don't know how they hold up in terms of durability. That new PMC-CX looks pretty nifty; the master isolator function seems interesting, though I don't quite understand what it's all about. Get an AH 92 though. And let us all come over and have a play on it :) Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/10/2004 7:57:43 am xone 62 or 92. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi mates! which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4 inputs and most of all: great survival potential=) ../z99
Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice (personal plug)
my choice? it's called FreeN'Workin'...best kind i know of. I have an old Newmark. Don't think anyone will be bulldozing my door to get a hold of this beauty. If anyone has an old mixer that still works, but don't need anymore...my bedroom dj habits would be willing to pay something mighty cheap for it. d --- Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard plenty of reports questioning the durability of the AH mixers (well, the 62 and the 464) - apparently the Pioneers are the most indestructible, but don't have anything approximating the sound quality. Perhaps the 92 has got these issues ironed out - it certainly looks more rugged, and finally combines features from all the previous models into one unit, as well as having 'DJ-style' fader knobs rather than 'engineer-style' fader knobs... If you can manage without linear faders, the Rane 2016 is super hot. I do like vestax mixers as well (I REALLY like the PMC-250 with those dual EQ's), but don't know how they hold up in terms of durability. That new PMC-CX looks pretty nifty; the master isolator function seems interesting, though I don't quite understand what it's all about. Get an AH 92 though. And let us all come over and have a play on it :) Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/10/2004 7:57:43 am xone 62 or 92. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi mates! which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4 inputs and most of all: great survival potential=) ../z99 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice?
My mixer of choice for now is the pioneer 600. Im familiar with it, I've got one, and I love it. Some of the features are handy as heck, especially when you want to boost the over-all volume of a record thats got a quiet cut, like old Kraftwerk records for example. I can bump the bass on computer world! I would say the range of volume the mixer allows to move around in is fairly large, and its for the better unless you got some nitwit redlining everything. You mention quality is a big factor in your choosing mixers? Im pretty big guy who more that occasionally strong-arms the levels and whatnot, but its held up near perfectly after daily abuse for a year and a half. One of the little auto quantize buttons isn't as sharp as it used to be, thats it. I know some people say it doesn't have the warmth. I wont disagree. I've heard warmer sounds, but like I was saying, I fluctuate between a lot of different styles, so that range of volume the pioneer produces is worth it. Plus, Pioneer has a reputation. While Im anxious to try new mixers, Technic turntables and a Pioneer mixer is a tried and true combination. At least you know you will get quality as opposed to blowing all your cheese on the newest thing only to then find out it has some awkward design flaw or something. I've seen that happen before, not pretty. Why not stick with what has worked before is my opinion as of now. I realize this kind of thinking can be looked down upon in a community where progress is imminent and people are always looking for the next new thing. But I spin vinyl on Technics, and in my personal vision, that combination stands alone. I guess the world of mixers is give and take, but until I find a mixer that blows away the pioneer in the aspects I listed above, I'll stick with it. Sorry to get going on the 313, i'll get back to my one or two line this record rocks reviews next time, but I hope you liked my opinion. If anybody reading this in the Iowa City (midwest) area has a favorite mixer, i'd like to be so bold as to ask if I may try it out. just holler!! -jason PS The best thing you can do for a mixer is not buy crappy, boring records and force the mixer to play them. now playing - dan Bell remix of john tejada's music for doubles...talk about warm sound...this record rocks ;) laters On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, at 07:55 PM, Simon Hindle wrote: I've heard plenty of reports questioning the durability of the AH mixers (well, the 62 and the 464) - apparently the Pioneers are the most indestructible, but don't have anything approximating the sound quality. Perhaps the 92 has got these issues ironed out - it certainly looks more rugged, and finally combines features from all the previous models into one unit, as well as having 'DJ-style' fader knobs rather than 'engineer-style' fader knobs... If you can manage without linear faders, the Rane 2016 is super hot. I do like vestax mixers as well (I REALLY like the PMC-250 with those dual EQ's), but don't know how they hold up in terms of durability. That new PMC-CX looks pretty nifty; the master isolator function seems interesting, though I don't quite understand what it's all about. Get an AH 92 though. And let us all come over and have a play on it :) Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/10/2004 7:57:43 am xone 62 or 92. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi mates! which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4 inputs and most of all: great survival potential=) ../z99
Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice?
http://www.fastcashpawn.com/ebay/pic7992a.jpg ive got one of those. the crossfader doesnt work anymore, contributing to my no longer using them when i deejay. im sure this mixer isnt why i suck. it was really cheap too. ive had it since 1998, its played many parties, raves, etc. tom -- Original Message -- From: jason kenjar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:57:37 -0500 My mixer of choice for now is the pioneer 600. Im familiar with it, I've got one, and I love it. Some of the features are handy as heck, especially when you want to boost the over-all volume of a record thats got a quiet cut, like old Kraftwerk records for example. I can bump the bass on computer world! I would say the range of volume the mixer allows to move around in is fairly large, and its for the better unless you got some nitwit redlining everything. You mention quality is a big factor in your choosing mixers? Im pretty big guy who more that occasionally strong-arms the levels and whatnot, but its held up near perfectly after daily abuse for a year and a half. One of the little auto quantize buttons isn't as sharp as it used to be, thats it. I know some people say it doesn't have the warmth. I wont disagree. I've heard warmer sounds, but like I was saying, I fluctuate between a lot of different styles, so that range of volume the pioneer produces is worth it. Plus, Pioneer has a reputation. While Im anxious to try new mixers, Technic turntables and a Pioneer mixer is a tried and true combination. At least you know you will get quality as opposed to blowing all your cheese on the newest thing only to then find out it has some awkward design flaw or something. I've seen that happen before, not pretty. Why not stick with what has worked before is my opinion as of now. I realize this kind of thinking can be looked down upon in a community where progress is imminent and people are always looking for the next new thing. But I spin vinyl on Technics, and in my personal vision, that combination stands alone. I guess the world of mixers is give and take, but until I find a mixer that blows away the pioneer in the aspects I listed above, I'll stick with it. Sorry to get going on the 313, i'll get back to my one or two line this record rocks reviews next time, but I hope you liked my opinion. If anybody reading this in the Iowa City (midwest) area has a favorite mixer, i'd like to be so bold as to ask if I may try it out. just holler!! -jason PS The best thing you can do for a mixer is not buy crappy, boring records and force the mixer to play them. now playing - dan Bell remix of john tejada's music for doubles...talk about warm sound...this record rocks ;) laters On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, at 07:55 PM, Simon Hindle wrote: I've heard plenty of reports questioning the durability of the AH mixers (well, the 62 and the 464) - apparently the Pioneers are the most indestructible, but don't have anything approximating the sound quality. Perhaps the 92 has got these issues ironed out - it certainly looks more rugged, and finally combines features from all the previous models into one unit, as well as having 'DJ-style' fader knobs rather than 'engineer-style' fader knobs... If you can manage without linear faders, the Rane 2016 is super hot. I do like vestax mixers as well (I REALLY like the PMC-250 with those dual EQ's), but don't know how they hold up in terms of durability. That new PMC-CX looks pretty nifty; the master isolator function seems interesting, though I don't quite understand what it's all about. Get an AH 92 though. And let us all come over and have a play on it :) Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/10/2004 7:57:43 am xone 62 or 92. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi mates! which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4 inputs and most of all: great survival potential=) ../z99 andythepooh.com
Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice?
Like I was saying: Im pretty big guy who more that occasionally strong-arms the levels and whatnot, but its held up near perfectly after daily abuse for a year and a half... then I said: If anybody reading this in the Iowa City (midwest) area has a favorite mixer, i'd like to be so bold as to ask if I may try it out. just holler!! I'd of course be easier on your rig :) Guess I kind of shot down my chance, huh? - flying J NP: Akufen- My way LP - Force Inc. Thanks to Akufen for releasing this LP. Amazing ... period
Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice?
You get what you pay for with Newmark ;) I would not recommend them if quality is a concern. But they are wallet friendly, not a bad idea for starting DJs who really need money for records. I had their first model of direct drive turntables.. they felt like a pair of playschool My first DJ toys. Yeah, they could do some cool tricks like +10 / -10 and backwards, but that aint chit when precision and durability is what truly matters with in tables. On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, at 09:20 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: http://www.fastcashpawn.com/ebay/pic7992a.jpg ive got one of those. the crossfader doesnt work anymore, contributing to my no longer using them when i deejay. im sure this mixer isnt why i suck. it was really cheap too. ive had it since 1998, its played many parties, raves, etc. tom -- Original Message -- From: jason kenjar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:57:37 -0500 My mixer of choice for now is the pioneer 600. Im familiar with it, I've got one, and I love it. Some of the features are handy as heck, especially when you want to boost the over-all volume of a record thats got a quiet cut, like old Kraftwerk records for example. I can bump the bass on computer world! I would say the range of volume the mixer allows to move around in is fairly large, and its for the better unless you got some nitwit redlining everything. You mention quality is a big factor in your choosing mixers? Im pretty big guy who more that occasionally strong-arms the levels and whatnot, but its held up near perfectly after daily abuse for a year and a half. One of the little auto quantize buttons isn't as sharp as it used to be, thats it. I know some people say it doesn't have the warmth. I wont disagree. I've heard warmer sounds, but like I was saying, I fluctuate between a lot of different styles, so that range of volume the pioneer produces is worth it. Plus, Pioneer has a reputation. While Im anxious to try new mixers, Technic turntables and a Pioneer mixer is a tried and true combination. At least you know you will get quality as opposed to blowing all your cheese on the newest thing only to then find out it has some awkward design flaw or something. I've seen that happen before, not pretty. Why not stick with what has worked before is my opinion as of now. I realize this kind of thinking can be looked down upon in a community where progress is imminent and people are always looking for the next new thing. But I spin vinyl on Technics, and in my personal vision, that combination stands alone. I guess the world of mixers is give and take, but until I find a mixer that blows away the pioneer in the aspects I listed above, I'll stick with it. Sorry to get going on the 313, i'll get back to my one or two line this record rocks reviews next time, but I hope you liked my opinion. If anybody reading this in the Iowa City (midwest) area has a favorite mixer, i'd like to be so bold as to ask if I may try it out. just holler!! -jason PS The best thing you can do for a mixer is not buy crappy, boring records and force the mixer to play them. now playing - dan Bell remix of john tejada's music for doubles...talk about warm sound...this record rocks ;) laters On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, at 07:55 PM, Simon Hindle wrote: I've heard plenty of reports questioning the durability of the AH mixers (well, the 62 and the 464) - apparently the Pioneers are the most indestructible, but don't have anything approximating the sound quality. Perhaps the 92 has got these issues ironed out - it certainly looks more rugged, and finally combines features from all the previous models into one unit, as well as having 'DJ-style' fader knobs rather than 'engineer-style' fader knobs... If you can manage without linear faders, the Rane 2016 is super hot. I do like vestax mixers as well (I REALLY like the PMC-250 with those dual EQ's), but don't know how they hold up in terms of durability. That new PMC-CX looks pretty nifty; the master isolator function seems interesting, though I don't quite understand what it's all about. Get an AH 92 though. And let us all come over and have a play on it :) Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/10/2004 7:57:43 am xone 62 or 92. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi mates! which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4 inputs and most of all: great survival potential=) ../z99 andythepooh.com
Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice?
-- Original Message -- From: jason kenjar [EMAIL PROTECTED] You get what you pay for with Newmark ;) I would not recommend them if quality is a concern. But they are wallet friendly, not a bad idea for starting DJs who really need money for records. the way i look at it, any money that id spend on a mixer is better spent on records or other useful gear. when i go out, i dont take my mixer so having a nice mixer isnt really useful except for use at home. which is basically never at this point. actually, if my tables and mixer were stolen or broken, i wouldnt buy anymore. id just buy a crappy turntable that takes deejay carts so it woudnt screw up my records when i listen to them and id call it a day. : ) tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice (personal plug)
teehee - free n' workin' - love it! :) when I picked up one years back it was a 4 channel Numark, 'cos that's what I was used to. I still have it, and it does a decent job. my only complaint is that there is slight bleed in two of the line channels, which I've been too proccupied to do anything about ... I guess if I had some money to spend I'd get a decent Pioneer - those look pretty wicked. tho' I do prefer models that are more simplistic, less to worry about, etc. lisa diana potts wrote: my choice? it's called FreeN'Workin'...best kind i know of. I have an old Newmark. Don't think anyone will be bulldozing my door to get a hold of this beauty. If anyone has an old mixer that still works, but don't need anymore...my bedroom dj habits would be willing to pay something mighty cheap for it. d --- Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard plenty of reports questioning the durability of the AH mixers (well, the 62 and the 464) - apparently the Pioneers are the most indestructible, but don't have anything approximating the sound quality. Perhaps the 92 has got these issues ironed out - it certainly looks more rugged, and finally combines features from all the previous models into one unit, as well as having 'DJ-style' fader knobs rather than 'engineer-style' fader knobs... If you can manage without linear faders, the Rane 2016 is super hot. I do like vestax mixers as well (I REALLY like the PMC-250 with those dual EQ's), but don't know how they hold up in terms of durability. That new PMC-CX looks pretty nifty; the master isolator function seems interesting, though I don't quite understand what it's all about. Get an AH 92 though. And let us all come over and have a play on it :) Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/10/2004 7:57:43 am xone 62 or 92. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi mates! which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4 inputs and most of all: great survival potential=) ../z99 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice?
I use a Red Sound Infader. I will admit the mixer has latent noise issues .. and can actually crash on you now and again . as it was one of the first mixer to use a digital cross fader section. It has three faders . one for the bass, one for mids, on for high's I love the concept, so found a second hand one. Its great to tweak on at home, and kick at house parties, but never rely on one at a gig. I think the digital part of the mixer is very voltage sensitive, so if you spike the sound or get a power flux . it dies . and need to on/off again // otherwise for drinking and mixing and staying alive, Pioneer :: their mixers sound like tinfoil but boy to they survive club life. Best Dj Mixers for range and quality .. would be Rane. Find one that suits your style . and expect to enjoy that mixer for a long time. .simon On Sep 14, 2004, at 22:19, jason kenjar wrote: I had their first model of direct drive turntables.. they felt like a pair of playschool My first DJ toys. Yeah, they could do some cool tricks like +10 / -10 and backwards, but that aint chit when precision and durability is what truly matters with in tables. i've had rather good luck with my ttx tables, but my numark mixer is terrible, and for all the crap i hear about numark layiing off support staff for akai and alesis i would get worried about their overall common sense as a company. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- . . . . . . ... .. .. // \\ gain more interest http://www.obscure.co.nz // \\ . . . . ... . . . .
RE: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice?
Y'all can say what you want, but I still swear by my Gemini 626MKII. In the 5 years that I've owned it, I haven't had a single issue with it. No fader crackle, no channels going in and out, no cold solder joints to fix on the i/o RCA's, no nothing. I use my decks and a laptop on it's 3 channels, but may switch to a cd/turntable config at some point. Works great, dirt cheap, what more can you ask for? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 1:36 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice? hi mates! which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4 inputs and most of all: great survival potential=) ../z99
Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice?
own a vestax pmc-46 with rotary faders. big one ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi mates! which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4 inputs and most of all: great survival potential=) ../z99
Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice (personal plug)
A Vestax PCV-180 It's the one they use in Star Trek movies!
RE: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice?
The Pioneer is a good mixer, but clips too easily when pushed into the red, and the x-fader isnt as good as the PG, (not saying any of you guys throttle the hell out of a system, but I've seen it many a time) and as the original post was what was best a for a club system, sound quality must be a priority, so it has to be the Allen and Heath 62/92. Friends of mine who run free party sound sytems have all now has replaced the Pioneers with AH. -Original Message- From: George Jones IV - Logic7 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 9/15/2004 6:41 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject:RE: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice? Y'all can say what you want, but I still swear by my Gemini 626MKII. In the 5 years that I've owned it, I haven't had a single issue with it. No fader crackle, no channels going in and out, no cold solder joints to fix on the i/o RCA's, no nothing. I use my decks and a laptop on it's 3 channels, but may switch to a cd/turntable config at some point. Works great, dirt cheap, what more can you ask for? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 1:36 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice? hi mates! which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4 inputs and most of all: great survival potential=) ../z99
Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice (personal plug)
I contributed my old half-working Numark to some friends, who have made a noise wall out of old/broken mixers. they basically connect everything improperly to generate feedback, which can be at least rudimentally controlled through EQ, fader, external effects etc. the 'crown jewel' is this old Roland unit with built-in DSP and a three-band EQ isolator. it's a great idea and endless fun to play with, but it would get me kicked out of my apartment in seconds. :) - jobot - Original Message - From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 8:26 pm Subject: Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice (personal plug) my choice? it's called FreeN'Workin'...best kind i know of. I have an old Newmark. Don't think anyone will be bulldozing my door to get a hold of this beauty. If anyone has an old mixer that still works, but don't need anymore...my bedroom dj habits would be willing to pay something mighty cheap for it. d --- Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard plenty of reports questioning the durability of the AH mixers (well, the 62 and the 464) - apparently the Pioneers are the most indestructible, but don't have anything approximating the sound quality. Perhaps the 92 has got these issues ironed out - it certainly looks more rugged, and finally combines features from all the previous models into one unit, as well as having 'DJ-style' fader knobs rather than 'engineer-style' fader knobs... If you can manage without linear faders, the Rane 2016 is super hot. I do like vestax mixers as well (I REALLY like the PMC-250 with those dual EQ's), but don't know how they hold up in terms of durability. That new PMC-CX looks pretty nifty; the master isolator function seems interesting, though I don't quite understand what it's all about. Get an AH 92 though. And let us all come over and have a play on it :) Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/10/2004 7:57:43 am xone 62 or 92. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi mates! which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4 inputs and most of all: great survival potential=) ../z99 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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I think I've wrong posted my reply to this post first time I do it again and all my excuses if it s a double. In my eyes, the best mixer in the world is done by RODEC No gadgets, impressive quality and longevity. A sound not comparable with other mixers due to elements used in conception. And if you really need efx/options...Why do not add a pioneer EFX 500? The best unit effect actually available. All spare elements available ...if a day you need one. It's a long term invest. http://www.rodec.be Dimitri Pike http://wildtek.free.fr http://groups.msn.com/313TechnoMusic
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At 03:40 PM 9/15/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my eyes, the best mixer in the world is done by RODEC yes, unfortunately they do not have a US distributor -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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yes, unfortunately they do not have a US distributor Too bad ! I've a meeting time with them soon (end of the month), if maybe you are really interesting by their products perhaps I can ask them if any nice solution exist to provides you one of their equipement. ++ Dimitri Pike http://wildtek.free.fr http://groups.msn.com/313TechnoMusic
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and the faders have the type of knobs that are better suited for recording studio set up (multitrack mixing) as opposed to live DJing. MEK matt kane's brain To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice (personal plug) 09/15/2004 02:48 PM At 03:40 PM 9/15/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my eyes, the best mixer in the world is done by RODEC yes, unfortunately they do not have a US distributor -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've always liked playing on this guy http://www.allen-heath.com/xone464.asp -- Tim Moore On Sep 14, 2004, at 4:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi mates! which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4 inputs and most of all: great survival potential=) ../z99
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xone 62 or 92. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi mates! which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4 inputs and most of all: great survival potential=) ../z99
