re [313] Karlheinz Stockhausen

2001-01-19 Thread c c
Oh, I forgot, "Kurzwellen" is a pretty good one too! ;)

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re [313] Karlheinz Stockhausen

2001-01-19 Thread c c

>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: Dave Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> An: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
>> Datum: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2001 05:19 RON
>> Betreff: [313] Karlheinz Stockhausen
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>> >
>> >Here is a text about Karlheinz Stockhausen.
>> >
>> >This may be slightly off topic. It says in the
>> article that He influenced
>> >kraftwerk among others, so some might find it of
>> interest. Any one heard
>> his
>> >music? Worth seeking out?
>> >
>>


Stockhausen has been a great influence on a lot of people.  His approach 
towards composition and sound construction as well as much of his actual music 
is really inspiring.

I will say though that I think his approach towards sound construction works a 
lot better when he realizes it electronically instead of with traditional 
instruments/voices. (ditto for Xenakis)  As a result, my appreciation for 
Stockhausen is mostly with regard to his electronic output, which, though only 
a small portion of his total work, is of consistently high quality.

My all time favorite Stockhausen piece is "Hymnen", which was dense masses of 
sound into which was incorporated national anthems, shortwave radio sounds, 
choral effects and "found voices".  The whole piece flows excellently and is a 
journey through a very wide range of moods, sounds and techniques while 
remaining very focused, coherent and composed.

His music is decidedly experimental, though.  No beats, overt rhythms or 
melodies, at least not in any conventional sense, though "Hymnen" does have an 
obliquely consonant feel to it and has a very palpable sense of momentum. His 
music can also shift on you quite suddenly with sounds or voices suddenly, and 
sometimes loudly, coming out of the mix at you.  

i wouldn't call it "scary" music, but it isn't ambient "mood" music designed to 
be played in the background and ignored. the music is composed and sounds best 
(and reveals the most) when you actively engage in it.

if you're interested in exploring his electronic works, I'd suggest checking 
out:

Hymnen
Gesang der Junglinge
Kontakte
Telemusik
Mixture
Mikrophonie I & II

They were all released on Duetsche Grammophon on LP and have been rereleased on 
CD recently, though the prices on the releases are obscenely high.

If you have a good public library nearby, I'd suggest stopping my the classical 
music dept. first and seeing if they have the LPs available for listening.

Have fun!

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Fw: [313] re [313] Karlheinz Stockhausen

2001-01-18 Thread RocketKids
anhhh. i forgot,,sorry, hes still doin workshops on his works and
12-tone-music,,,im gonna get the
url and post it here for the interested..
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Datum: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2001 14:46 RON
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>hi
>
>My former music teacher used to learn from him.  Some
>of the stories are amazing.  For example he told me
>how they used to have many tape loops stretched the
>length of a big hall and play them.  The tape cutting
>techniques they used sound so tedious, using thousands
>of splices and joining them (does anybody no what the
>average amount of splices were for the first detroit
>stuff). Aparently they would splice lots of
>prerecorded tape and stick them all on the wall and
>then randomly put it back togeather. The first synths
>they used were as big as whole rooms.
>Personly i find stockhausens music damn scary but very
>interesting.
>My teacher said the last thing he heard that
>stockhausen was working on was a 24 hour oprah.
>
>Crazy!
>
>Sam
>
>--- RocketKids <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> stockhausen is one of the originators of
>> experimental electronic music. he
>> started to experiment with tapeloops and
>> pianoplayers in the 50s,,,some kind
>> of cage,,if you want, but far more experimental.
>> you really got to check
>> his music and his compositions,,,theyre awesome!
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: Dave Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> An: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
>> Datum: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2001 05:19 RON
>> Betreff: [313] Karlheinz Stockhausen
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>> >Here is a text about Karlheinz Stockhausen.
>> >
>> >This may be slightly off topic. It says in the
>> article that He influenced
>> >kraftwerk among others, so some might find it of
>> interest. Any one heard
>> his
>> >music? Worth seeking out?
>> >
>>
>>http://www.salon.com/people/bc/2001/01/16/stockhausen/index.html
>> >
>> >
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Fw: [313] re [313] Karlheinz Stockhausen

2001-01-18 Thread RocketKids
the opera is not only a opera, but its a cycle of 7 operas , everyones
called as a day of the week. he finished working on "sunday" last year, this
was the last part of the cycle.  you should really try to get his sheets of
"kontakte" its
his best work for meim tryin to play this on a piano since 2 years, but
i cant ...lol.
check him out, hes rockin hard!! you should also go and look out for
strawinsky, berg
and oskar sala, he designed and built the trautonium, a obscure instrument,
which is today
known as the first "sampler" . he built it back in the  30s. and was
techno.


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Sam Karmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
Datum: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2001 14:46 RON
Betreff: Re: [313] re [313] Karlheinz Stockhausen


>hi
>
>My former music teacher used to learn from him.  Some
>of the stories are amazing.  For example he told me
>how they used to have many tape loops stretched the
>length of a big hall and play them.  The tape cutting
>techniques they used sound so tedious, using thousands
>of splices and joining them (does anybody no what the
>average amount of splices were for the first detroit
>stuff). Aparently they would splice lots of
>prerecorded tape and stick them all on the wall and
>then randomly put it back togeather. The first synths
>they used were as big as whole rooms.
>Personly i find stockhausens music damn scary but very
>interesting.
>My teacher said the last thing he heard that
>stockhausen was working on was a 24 hour oprah.
>
>Crazy!
>
>Sam
>
>--- RocketKids <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> stockhausen is one of the originators of
>> experimental electronic music. he
>> started to experiment with tapeloops and
>> pianoplayers in the 50s,,,some kind
>> of cage,,if you want, but far more experimental.
>> you really got to check
>> his music and his compositions,,,theyre awesome!
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: Dave Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> An: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
>> Datum: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2001 05:19 RON
>> Betreff: [313] Karlheinz Stockhausen
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>> >Here is a text about Karlheinz Stockhausen.
>> >
>> >This may be slightly off topic. It says in the
>> article that He influenced
>> >kraftwerk among others, so some might find it of
>> interest. Any one heard
>> his
>> >music? Worth seeking out?
>> >
>>
>>http://www.salon.com/people/bc/2001/01/16/stockhausen/index.html
>> >
>> >
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Re: [313] re [313] Karlheinz Stockhausen

2001-01-18 Thread Sam Karmel
hi

My former music teacher used to learn from him.  Some
of the stories are amazing.  For example he told me
how they used to have many tape loops stretched the
length of a big hall and play them.  The tape cutting
techniques they used sound so tedious, using thousands
of splices and joining them (does anybody no what the
average amount of splices were for the first detroit
stuff). Aparently they would splice lots of
prerecorded tape and stick them all on the wall and
then randomly put it back togeather. The first synths
they used were as big as whole rooms.  
Personly i find stockhausens music damn scary but very
interesting.
My teacher said the last thing he heard that
stockhausen was working on was a 24 hour oprah.

Crazy!

Sam

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> stockhausen is one of the originators of
> experimental electronic music. he
> started to experiment with tapeloops and
> pianoplayers in the 50s,,,some kind
> of cage,,if you want, but far more experimental. 
> you really got to check
> his music and his compositions,,,theyre awesome!
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Dave Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
> Datum: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2001 05:19 RON
> Betreff: [313] Karlheinz Stockhausen
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> >
> >Here is a text about Karlheinz Stockhausen.
> >
> >This may be slightly off topic. It says in the
> article that He influenced
> >kraftwerk among others, so some might find it of
> interest. Any one heard
> his
> >music? Worth seeking out?
> >
>
>http://www.salon.com/people/bc/2001/01/16/stockhausen/index.html
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re [313] Karlheinz Stockhausen

2001-01-18 Thread RocketKids
stockhausen is one of the originators of experimental electronic music. he
started to experiment with tapeloops and pianoplayers in the 50s,,,some kind
of cage,,if you want, but far more experimental.  you really got to check
his music and his compositions,,,theyre awesome!
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Dave Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
Datum: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2001 05:19 RON
Betreff: [313] Karlheinz Stockhausen


>
>Here is a text about Karlheinz Stockhausen.
>
>This may be slightly off topic. It says in the article that He influenced
>kraftwerk among others, so some might find it of interest. Any one heard
his
>music? Worth seeking out?
>
>http://www.salon.com/people/bc/2001/01/16/stockhausen/index.html
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>
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