RE: [313] some questions
Err, I think you're confusing Man Parrish with Kurtis Mantronix. Two different dudes, tho both are dope electronic music innovators IMO. And both are from New York. -J Man Parrish has some incredible tracks!! Used to DJ our high school dances (from M.A.R.R.S. to New Edition anyone?) in '87 and for 3 years straight we'd open up with Mantronix Bassline... and still rocks a floor to this day. ALso a track nobody really mentions that often is the 12 of Who is it? Came out around shortly after Bassline. The words ask repeatedly 'who is it?' through the whole song, then at the end it's frankly stated the person making the music isn't a person at all. The answer: It's a computer. There were at least 8 different mixes of this track through various pressings, UK vs. US mixes, freestlyle mixes, etc. I think you can still get it on Warlock, there was a big reissue in 1999. Another favorite of his is Boogie Down Bronx, (my main man parrish and cool raul, cooler than the water in a swimming pool) which I distinctly remember hearing in various Wizard mixes back on Detroit radio... good memories. Fresh Is The Word, --Matt MacQuen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message was sent via the BiznessOnline.com webmail system. http://www.biznessonline.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] some questions
Err, I think you're confusing Man Parrish with Kurtis Mantronix. Two different dudes, tho both are dope electronic music innovators IMO. And both are from New York. -J Man Parrish has some incredible tracks!! Used to DJ our high school dances (from M.A.R.R.S. to New Edition anyone?) in '87 and for 3 years straight we'd open up with Mantronix Bassline... and still rocks a floor to this day. ALso a track nobody really mentions that often is the 12 of Who is it? Came out around shortly after Bassline. The words ask repeatedly 'who is it?' through the whole song, then at the end it's frankly stated the person making the music isn't a person at all. The answer: It's a computer. There were at least 8 different mixes of this track through various pressings, UK vs. US mixes, freestlyle mixes, etc. I think you can still get it on Warlock, there was a big reissue in 1999. Another favorite of his is Boogie Down Bronx, (my main man parrish and cool raul, cooler than the water in a swimming pool) which I distinctly remember hearing in various Wizard mixes back on Detroit radio... good memories. Fresh Is The Word, --Matt MacQuen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message was sent via the BiznessOnline.com webmail system. http://www.biznessonline.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] some questions
Techno- as an adjectival modifier (techno-thriller, techno-urban, techno-speak, etc.) has been around for decades. It's clearly a truncation of technological, and its use as a modifier indicates the rapid and pervasive growth of technology through modern society -- so fast that new terms describing new kinds of economic and cultural phenomena haven't had time to develop directly. So the late-1980s sense of techno music arising from the cycle of utopian early hopes and dystopian reality makes a lot of sense. Juan Atkins didn't coin techno as a six-letter phrase helping to modify some other term, but he definitely gets credit for extracting that phrase and having it stand on its own for a distinctly identifiable music style that relates to the same transformative nature of technology. Doing this may seem obvious in retrospect. Then again, good ideas often are like that ... phred - In his seminal text 'Noise', Jacques Attali celebrates the prophetic power of music. What is pioneered first within music-making is later adopted as the political economy for the whole of society. For instance, the constant turnover of hit records in the 1920s prefigured the mass consumerism of late-twentieth century Fordism. According to Attali, each epoch of music-making creates its own specific social, technological and aesthetic forms. For instance, twentieth century music developed some apparently unbreakable paradigms: stars, fans, record companies, copyright laws, pieces of plastic, top 40 singles and experimental albums. Yet, at the beginning of a new century, these fixed Fordist forms are being superseded. What began with a few skilled DJs mixing vinyl now involves almost everybody with access to a computer and the Net. This new situation won't just create new social, technological and aesthetic paradigms for music-making. As in the past, music is pioneering a new political economy for the whole of society. Napsterisation is a prophecy of the peer-to-peer future. http://www.cybersalon.org/cgi-bin/cybersalon/events.cgi?articleid=151 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] some questions
i) just got Man Parrish Lp after good tip from firend and fellow list member james it's got a track called techno Trax on it - yet it was made in 1982; I thought Juan coined the term techno ii) embrassed to say I only just got my first Daniel Wang 12 the 'Look Ma No Drum machines' - pretty cool, samples some of my favourtie trackscan anyone else spot the Players haters In This House (dj godfather ghetto track?) voice sample in the background or am I just losin it iii) can anyone make any good reccomendations on where to hear some cool Latin rascals mixes on the net, or point me in the direction of some nice Latin rascals productions peace and thanks rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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what do you think of the man parrish? he's very underrated. the best latin rascal release that i know of is 'macho mozart' on tin pan apple records. it's on that electro mix i gave you--it's the second last track. see you tomorrow. james From: RC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:01:41 +1100 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] some questions i) just got Man Parrish Lp after good tip from firend and fellow list member james it's got a track called techno Trax on it - yet it was made in 1982; I thought Juan coined the term techno ii) embrassed to say I only just got my first Daniel Wang 12 the 'Look Ma No Drum machines' - pretty cool, samples some of my favourtie trackscan anyone else spot the Players haters In This House (dj godfather ghetto track?) voice sample in the background or am I just losin it iii) can anyone make any good reccomendations on where to hear some cool Latin rascals mixes on the net, or point me in the direction of some nice Latin rascals productions peace and thanks rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] some questions
it's got a track called techno Trax on it - yet it was made in 1982; I thought Juan coined the term techno no, Juan didn't coin the term techno per se ... I'm sure it was in the English language long before Alvin Toffler even used it. Juan was just the one that perpetuated the name for the genre ... he is why the first compilation was called Techno! The New Dance Sound of Detroit. -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] some questions
| -Original Message- | From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 27 March 2002 14:46 | | it's got a track called techno Trax on it - yet it was | made in 1982; I | thought Juan coined the term techno | | Juan was just the one that perpetuated the name for the genre ... he | is why the first compilation was called Techno! The New Dance Sound | of Detroit. The way I heard it, the album was initially going to be called The House Sound Of Detroit, as back then the music was seen by the UK press as being pretty much house music from Detroit, but the label wanted to put a certain slant on it, asking the Belleville Three if there were any other terms they might use to refer to the music to distinguish it from Chicago. Juan Atkins stood up and shouted techno!. One thing that confuses me, though, is that Derrick May apparently hated that term, seeing it as something more associated with hip-hop than with the music they were making. What was that all about? In what context was techno used to describe hip-hop back then? Brendan ps yes, I *am* reading Last night a DJ saved my life at the moment - it's nice to see that Dan's book is called the excellent _Techno Rebels_, while other books are referred to without any glowing adjectives Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] some questions
The way I heard it, the album was initially going to be called The House Sound Of Detroit, as back then the music was seen by the UK press as being pretty much house music from Detroit, but the label wanted to put a certain slant on it, asking the Belleville Three if there were any other terms they might use to refer to the music to distinguish it from Chicago. Juan Atkins stood up and shouted techno!. The first half sounds right. From what I know, Juan was the last to submit his track for the compilation. His submission was called Techno Music. *That's* what prompted them to change the name. -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] some questions
just got Man Parrish Lp after good tip from firend Man Parrish has some incredible tracks!! Used to DJ our high school dances (from M.A.R.R.S. to New Edition anyone?) in '87 and for 3 years straight we'd open up with Mantronix Bassline... and still rocks a floor to this day. ALso a track nobody really mentions that often is the 12 of Who is it? Came out around shortly after Bassline. The words ask repeatedly 'who is it?' through the whole song, then at the end it's frankly stated the person making the music isn't a person at all. The answer: It's a computer. There were at least 8 different mixes of this track through various pressings, UK vs. US mixes, freestlyle mixes, etc. I think you can still get it on Warlock, there was a big reissue in 1999. Another favorite of his is Boogie Down Bronx, (my main man parrish and cool raul, cooler than the water in a swimming pool) which I distinctly remember hearing in various Wizard mixes back on Detroit radio... good memories. Fresh Is The Word, --Matt MacQuen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] some questions
One thing that confuses me, though, is that Derrick May apparently hated that term, seeing it as something more associated with hip-hop than with the music they were making. What was that all about? In what context was techno used to describe hip-hop back then? This is just a guess, but back when I was dj-ing in high school (86-87) I think there was an LA label called 'Techno Pop' which released techno tracks disguised as a form of hip-hop (I think Cli-n-tel was one of the artists with 2030) The artwork on the label was red and yellow...along the same lines of Surgery (Dr. Dre) and Unknown DJ. Maybe that's what Derrick was referring to..? JB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Man Parrish [was: some questions]
'Hip Hop Be Bop' is being released in remixed form (DMX Krew/Bass Junkie/Mike Dred mixes) on Breakin' on 1st April. For an idea of what Parrish is up to now, check http://www.manparrish.com just got Man Parrish Lp after good tip from firend Man Parrish has some incredible tracks!! Used to DJ our high school dances (from M.A.R.R.S. to New Edition anyone?) in '87 and for 3 years straight we'd open up with Mantronix Bassline... and still rocks a floor to this day. ALso a track nobody really mentions that often is the 12 of Who is it? Came out around shortly after Bassline. The words ask repeatedly 'who is it?' through the whole song, then at the end it's frankly stated the person making the music isn't a person at all. The answer: It's a computer. There were at least 8 different mixes of this track through various pressings, UK vs. US mixes, freestlyle mixes, etc. I think you can still get it on Warlock, there was a big reissue in 1999. Another favorite of his is Boogie Down Bronx, (my main man parrish and cool raul, cooler than the water in a swimming pool) which I distinctly remember hearing in various Wizard mixes back on Detroit radio... good memories. Fresh Is The Word, --Matt MacQuen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
some questions....
Question 1. anyone know hwere i can find Rob Hood at Elsyium 2 set in digital form? Question 2. someone here was talking about Jimi Tenors' wifes' album...i would like to know the name of the album and the artist and where i can order it from the web Question 3. this ones slightly OT: can someone please tell me the sample used in C. Aguileras' Genie in the Bottleits terribily familiar but i cant remember where its taken from. thanks fab