RE: [313] some questions

2002-03-28 Thread jkessler
Err, I think you're confusing Man Parrish with Kurtis Mantronix. Two different 
dudes, tho both are dope electronic music innovators IMO.

And both are from New York.

-J

 Man Parrish has some incredible tracks!!  Used to DJ our high school
 dances (from M.A.R.R.S. to New Edition anyone?) in '87 and for 3 years
 straight we'd open up with Mantronix Bassline... and still rocks a
 floor to this day.  ALso a track nobody really mentions that often is
 the 12 of Who is it?  Came out around shortly after Bassline.  The
 words ask repeatedly 'who is it?' through the whole song, then at the
 end it's frankly stated the person making the music isn't a person at
 all. The answer:  It's a computer.  There were at least 8 different
 mixes of this track through various pressings, UK vs. US mixes,
 freestlyle mixes, etc.  I think you can still get it on Warlock, there
 was a big reissue in 1999.
 
 Another favorite of his is Boogie Down Bronx, (my main man parrish and
 cool raul, cooler than the water in a swimming pool)  which I distinctly
 remember hearing in various Wizard mixes back on Detroit radio... good
 memories.
 
 Fresh Is The Word,
 --Matt MacQuen
 
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RE: [313] some questions

2002-03-28 Thread jkessler
Err, I think you're confusing Man Parrish with Kurtis Mantronix. Two different 
dudes, tho both are dope electronic music innovators IMO.

And both are from New York.

-J

 Man Parrish has some incredible tracks!!  Used to DJ our high school
 dances (from M.A.R.R.S. to New Edition anyone?) in '87 and for 3 years
 straight we'd open up with Mantronix Bassline... and still rocks a
 floor to this day.  ALso a track nobody really mentions that often is
 the 12 of Who is it?  Came out around shortly after Bassline.  The
 words ask repeatedly 'who is it?' through the whole song, then at the
 end it's frankly stated the person making the music isn't a person at
 all. The answer:  It's a computer.  There were at least 8 different
 mixes of this track through various pressings, UK vs. US mixes,
 freestlyle mixes, etc.  I think you can still get it on Warlock, there
 was a big reissue in 1999.
 
 Another favorite of his is Boogie Down Bronx, (my main man parrish and
 cool raul, cooler than the water in a swimming pool)  which I distinctly
 remember hearing in various Wizard mixes back on Detroit radio... good
 memories.
 
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 --Matt MacQuen
 
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Re: [313] some questions

2002-03-28 Thread Fred Heutte
Techno- as an adjectival modifier (techno-thriller, techno-urban,
techno-speak, etc.) has been around for decades.  It's clearly a
truncation of technological, and its use as a modifier indicates the
rapid and pervasive growth of technology through modern society -- so 
fast that new terms describing new kinds of economic and cultural
phenomena haven't had time to develop directly.

So the late-1980s sense of techno music arising from the cycle of utopian
early hopes and dystopian reality makes a lot of sense.  Juan Atkins 
didn't coin techno as a six-letter phrase helping to modify some other
term, but he definitely gets credit for extracting that phrase and having
it stand on its own for a distinctly identifiable music style that relates
to the same transformative nature of technology.

Doing this may seem obvious in retrospect.  Then again, good ideas often 
are like that ...

phred

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  In his seminal text 'Noise', Jacques Attali celebrates the prophetic 
   power of music.  What is pioneered first within music-making is later 
   adopted as the political economy for the whole of society. For instance, 
   the constant turnover of hit records in the 1920s prefigured the mass 
   consumerism of late-twentieth century Fordism. According to Attali, 
   each epoch of music-making creates its own specific social, 
   technological and aesthetic forms. For instance, twentieth century 
   music developed some apparently unbreakable paradigms: stars, fans, 
   record companies, copyright laws, pieces of plastic, top 40 singles 
   and experimental albums. Yet, at the beginning of a new century, these 
   fixed Fordist forms are being superseded. What began with a few 
   skilled DJs mixing vinyl now involves almost everybody with access to 
   a computer and the Net.

   This new situation won't just create new social, technological and 
   aesthetic paradigms for music-making. As in the past, music is 
   pioneering a new political economy for the whole of society. 
   Napsterisation is a prophecy of the peer-to-peer future.

   http://www.cybersalon.org/cgi-bin/cybersalon/events.cgi?articleid=151


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[313] some questions

2002-03-27 Thread RC
i) just got Man Parrish Lp after good tip from firend and fellow list member
james

it's got a track called techno Trax on it - yet it was made in 1982; I
thought Juan coined the term techno

ii) embrassed to say I only just got my first Daniel Wang 12 the 'Look Ma
No Drum machines' - pretty cool, samples some of my favourtie trackscan
anyone else spot the Players haters In This House (dj godfather ghetto
track?) voice sample in the background or am I just losin it

iii) can anyone make any good reccomendations on where to hear some cool
Latin rascals mixes on the net, or point me in the direction of some nice
Latin rascals productions


peace and thanks

rc


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Re: [313] some questions

2002-03-27 Thread james bucknell
what do you think of the man parrish? he's very underrated.
the best latin rascal release that i know of is 'macho mozart' on tin pan
apple records. it's on that electro mix i gave you--it's the second last
track.
see you tomorrow.

james


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 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] some questions
 
 i) just got Man Parrish Lp after good tip from firend and fellow list member
 james
 
 it's got a track called techno Trax on it - yet it was made in 1982; I
 thought Juan coined the term techno
 
 ii) embrassed to say I only just got my first Daniel Wang 12 the 'Look Ma
 No Drum machines' - pretty cool, samples some of my favourtie trackscan
 anyone else spot the Players haters In This House (dj godfather ghetto
 track?) voice sample in the background or am I just losin it
 
 iii) can anyone make any good reccomendations on where to hear some cool
 Latin rascals mixes on the net, or point me in the direction of some nice
 Latin rascals productions
 
 
 peace and thanks
 
 rc
 
 
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Re: [313] some questions

2002-03-27 Thread Dan Sicko

it's got a track called techno Trax on it - yet it was made in 1982; I
thought Juan coined the term techno


no, Juan didn't coin the term techno per se ... I'm sure it was in 
the English language long before Alvin Toffler even used it.


Juan was just the one that perpetuated the name for the genre ... he 
is why the first compilation was called Techno! The New Dance Sound 
of Detroit.


-d

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RE: [313] some questions

2002-03-27 Thread brendan . nelson
| -Original Message-
| From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 27 March 2002 14:46
| 
| it's got a track called techno Trax on it - yet it was 
| made in 1982; I
| thought Juan coined the term techno
| 
| Juan was just the one that perpetuated the name for the genre ... he 
| is why the first compilation was called Techno! The New Dance Sound 
| of Detroit.

The way I heard it, the album was initially going to be called The House
Sound Of Detroit, as back then the music was seen by the UK press as being
pretty much house music from Detroit, but the label wanted to put a certain
slant on it, asking the Belleville Three if there were any other terms they
might use to refer to the music to distinguish it from Chicago. Juan Atkins
stood up and shouted techno!.

One thing that confuses me, though, is that Derrick May apparently hated
that term, seeing it as something more associated with hip-hop than with the
music they were making. What was that all about? In what context was techno
used to describe hip-hop back then?

Brendan

ps yes, I *am* reading Last night a DJ saved my life at the moment - it's
nice to see that Dan's book is called the excellent _Techno Rebels_, while
other books are referred to without any glowing adjectives


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RE: [313] some questions

2002-03-27 Thread Dan Sicko


The way I heard it, the album was initially going to be called The House
Sound Of Detroit, as back then the music was seen by the UK press as being
pretty much house music from Detroit, but the label wanted to put a certain
slant on it, asking the Belleville Three if there were any other terms they
might use to refer to the music to distinguish it from Chicago. Juan Atkins
stood up and shouted techno!.


The first half sounds right. From what I know, Juan was the last to 
submit his track for the compilation. His submission was called 
Techno Music.  *That's* what prompted them to change the name.


-d

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RE: [313] some questions

2002-03-27 Thread Matthew MacQueen
 just got Man Parrish Lp after good tip from firend 

Man Parrish has some incredible tracks!!  Used to DJ our high school dances 
(from M.A.R.R.S. to New Edition anyone?) in '87 and for 3 years straight we'd 
open up with Mantronix Bassline... and still rocks a floor to this day.  ALso 
a track nobody really mentions that often is the 12 of Who is it?  Came out 
around shortly after Bassline.  The words ask repeatedly 'who is it?' through 
the whole song, then at the end it's frankly stated the person making the music 
isn't a person at all. The answer:  It's a computer.  There were at least 8 
different mixes of this track through various pressings, UK vs. US mixes, 
freestlyle mixes, etc.  I think you can still get it on Warlock, there was a 
big reissue in 1999.

Another favorite of his is Boogie Down Bronx, (my main man parrish and cool 
raul, cooler than the water in a swimming pool)  which I distinctly remember 
hearing in various Wizard mixes back on Detroit radio... good memories.

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--Matt MacQuen

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RE: [313] some questions

2002-03-27 Thread Joe Marougi

One thing that confuses me, though, is that Derrick May apparently hated
that term, seeing it as something more associated with hip-hop than with the
music they were making. What was that all about? In what context was techno
used to describe hip-hop back then?

This is just a guess, but back when I was dj-ing in high school (86-87) I think 
there was an LA label called 'Techno Pop' which released techno tracks 
disguised as a form of hip-hop (I think Cli-n-tel was one of the artists with 
2030)  The artwork on the label was red and yellow...along the same lines of 
Surgery (Dr. Dre) and Unknown DJ.  Maybe that's what Derrick was referring 
to..?

JB


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Re: [313] Man Parrish [was: some questions]

2002-03-27 Thread Tom Robbins/Magic Feet
'Hip Hop Be Bop' is being released in remixed form (DMX Krew/Bass
Junkie/Mike Dred mixes) on Breakin' on 1st April. For an idea of what
Parrish is up to now, check http://www.manparrish.com




 just got Man Parrish Lp after good tip from firend

Man Parrish has some incredible tracks!!  Used to DJ our high school dances
(from M.A.R.R.S. to New Edition anyone?) in '87 and for 3 years straight
we'd open up with Mantronix Bassline... and still rocks a floor to this
day.  ALso a track nobody really mentions that often is the 12 of Who is
it?  Came out around shortly after Bassline.  The words ask repeatedly
'who is it?' through the whole song, then at the end it's frankly stated the
person making the music isn't a person at all. The answer:  It's a
computer.  There were at least 8 different mixes of this track through
various pressings, UK vs. US mixes, freestlyle mixes, etc.  I think you can
still get it on Warlock, there was a big reissue in 1999.

Another favorite of his is Boogie Down Bronx, (my main man parrish and
cool raul, cooler than the water in a swimming pool)  which I distinctly
remember hearing in various Wizard mixes back on Detroit radio... good
memories.

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--Matt MacQuen

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some questions....

2001-03-23 Thread fab137
Question 1.
anyone know hwere i can find Rob Hood at Elsyium 2 set in digital
form?

Question 2.
someone here was talking about Jimi Tenors' wifes' album...i would
like to know the name of the album and the artist and where i can order it
from the web

Question 3.
this ones slightly OT: can someone please tell me the sample used in C.
Aguileras' Genie in the Bottleits terribily familiar but i cant
remember where its taken from.

thanks
fab