Re: Scheduled ISP Maintenance @ 4D Office (France)

[Dave Nasralla via 4D_Tech]

The 4D store is up and running again. Just got my licenses.

dave

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 8:27 AM, Alan Chan via 4D_Tech
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> I guess most engineers of its ISP were on vacation (the famous French summer 
> vacation).
>
> Alan Chan
>
> 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> writes:
>>I have been trying to get licensing since Friday Still no luck.
>>
>>dave
>>
>>On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:26 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech
>><4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>>> I'm still unable to register a licence as of Tuesday 11 AM UK time ...
>>>
>>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 15:24, Tai Bui via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 For some reason it appears that the internet has been down since the ISP
 performed their maintenance.
 The ISP has been informed and should be working on it.

 Apologies for the inconvenience.

 Best Regards,
 -Tai B.



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RE: Multi-Style Reference Toggle

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

Hi Tom,

I believe the correct answer (for Styled Text areas) was posted by Jeremy 
French -
Use the ST SET OPTIONS command to toggle the expression display between 
references and values:
http://doc.4d.com/4Dv17/4D/17/ST-SET-OPTIONS.301-3729984.en.html

The other answer provided by Chuck seems to be specific to 4D Write and will 
not work with a styled text area.

-Tim




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Subject: Re: Multi-Style Reference Toggle

Doesn't this only work with 4D Write? I'm looking for this to work in a text 
variable set to multi-style.

Charles Miller via 4D_Tech wrote:

>WR EXECUTE COMMAND ( area ; cmdNumber )
>
>On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:18 PM Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech
><4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
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>> In a multi-style text area, is it possible, like in 4D Write, to
>> toggle the display between showing References and Data?
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Re: Multi-Style Reference Toggle

[Charles Miller via 4D_Tech]

Soerry misread what you were actulaly asking

Regards

Chuck

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> Doesn't this only work with 4D Write? I'm looking for this to work in a
> text variable set to multi-style.
>
> Charles Miller via 4D_Tech wrote:
>
> >WR EXECUTE COMMAND ( area ; cmdNumber )
> >
> >On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:18 PM Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> In a multi-style text area, is it possible, like in 4D Write, to toggle
> >> the display between showing References and Data?
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Re: Multi-Style Reference Toggle

[Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech]

Doesn't this only work with 4D Write? I'm looking for this to work in a text 
variable set to multi-style.

Charles Miller via 4D_Tech wrote:

>WR EXECUTE COMMAND ( area ; cmdNumber )
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>On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:18 PM Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
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>> In a multi-style text area, is it possible, like in 4D Write, to toggle
>> the display between showing References and Data?

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Re: Frequent and Random Crashes - since 16 conversion

[Dave Nasralla via 4D_Tech]

Hey Bob,

Just read your post. FYI - There is no 4D Pack for v16R6. In general
there are equivalent commands you can use that are native, but it must
be removed.

dave

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>
> I've recently completed a conversion from 4D v15 -> v16r6 on Windows, for
> a built-server application.  This also changed the client from a 32 bit
> client to a 64 bit client and we went to the "new" network layer.
>
> Since then, we've had many reports from both users with locally installed
> clients as well as users on remote desktop servers that at least 4-5 times
> a day they'll perform some operation (there's no consistency; they can be
> anywhere in the program) and it will instantly crash - no error message
> other than a dialog from 4D Volume Desktop that says, "4D Volume Desktop
> has stopped working".
>
> I'm wondering if this could be related to the new network layer?  I recall
> some chat about a year ago about problems with this layer, but as I was
> not using it at the time and was hoping it all would be worked out before
> I was going to be using it, I kind of ignored it all.  Now I'm having
> problems.
>
> I"m using pretty standard plugins, but I can't trace the behavior to any
> of these:
> 4D Internet commands
> 4D Pack
> ALP
> ObjectTools
> Win32API
> XL Plugin
> XML Plugin
>
> Have others seen this?  I have about 180 users and this was not a problem
> with v15r4.  I'm sure I've logged 100+ instances of such crashes, which
> are probably only a small fraction of the overall problem.
>
> Any insights would be helpful.
>
> Thank you,
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Re: Multi-Style Reference Toggle

[Charles Miller via 4D_Tech]

Take a lok at

WR EXECUTE COMMAND ( area ; cmdNumber )

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> In a multi-style text area, is it possible, like in 4D Write, to toggle
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Re: Query from C#?

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> On 7 Aug 2018, at 16:40, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
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> I've had an enquiry from a customer who wants to know if it is possible to
> query the database from a C# script and produce a report.
> Is it? (My knowledge of any version of C is way out of date ...)
> (Using v17)


Hi Pat,

Does your application already provide a REST API?
If not, then that is the approach I would recommend.
REST API’s are truly platform neutral, easy to maintain and easy to use.

Compared to ODBC it also gives you better control over the data that gets 
accessed from your database. In my opinion it is the best way to go.

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RE: Query from C#?

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

There is a C library (C not C#) for connecting to 4D:
https://github.com/4d/SQLlib_4D

The C library is used for multiple different connectors including:
Python: https://github.com/ibrewster/p4d
PHP (pdo): https://github.com/famsf/pecl-pdo-4d

There is also a document describing the SQL Networking Protocol if you want to 
build something that speaks the native 4D SQL protocol:
http://sources.4d.com/trac/4d_pdo4d/raw-attachment/wiki/WikiStart/SQL%20networking%20protocol.doc

Hope that helps!

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Re: Multi-Style Reference Toggle

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For multi-style text areas, take a look at: 
http://doc.4d.com/4Dv17/4D/17/ST-SET-OPTIONS.301-3729984.en.html

> On Aug 7, 2018, at 12:18 PM, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
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> In a multi-style text area, is it possible, like in 4D Write, to toggle the 
> display between showing References and Data?

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Multi-Style Reference Toggle

[Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech]

In a multi-style text area, is it possible, like in 4D Write, to toggle the 
display between showing References and Data?

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Re: Query from C#?

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

Cool, thanks!

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> Use the 4D ODBC driver. C# has classes for interacting with ODBC data
> sources (like 4D Server).
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> > On Aug 7, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <
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> > OK ... but can you log in to the database from c#?
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Re: Query from C#?

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Use the 4D ODBC driver. C# has classes for interacting with ODBC data sources 
(like 4D Server).

> On Aug 7, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
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> OK ... but can you log in to the database from c#?

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Re: Query from C#?

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

OK ... but can you log in to the database from c#?


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> You can control access with SQL views.
>
> > On Aug 7, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <
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> > I can see why a customer would want it but why would you want them to be
> > able to? And how would you control what they can access?
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Re: height and width of a fixed prtinted object

[Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech]

Hi Chuck,

If I’m understanding what you’re after, you just need to use the max width 
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> *OBJECT GET BEST SIZE*(*;"v_164_056_txt";$BWidth_l;$BHieght_L)

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height and width of a fixed prtinted object

[Charles Miller via 4D_Tech]

Hi All,
environment v 15. I have a printed form with a few fixed height and width
objects that are set to multi style. If object gets to large (width or
height). I will be placing text on another page and a note that states more
info is in comments section

I thought operhaps I could use object get best size,but find it does not
work as I expected

I have the following code

*C_LONGINT*($OLeft_L;$ORight_L;$OTop_L;$OBottom_L;$BWidth_l;$BHieght_L;
$OWidth_L;$OHeight_L)

*OBJECT GET COORDINATES*(*;"v_164_056_txt";$OLeft_L;$OTop_L;$ORight_L;
$OBottom_L)

$OWidth_L:=$ORight_L-$OLeft_L

$OHeight_L:=$OBottom_L-$OTop_L


*ST SET TEXT*(v_164_056_txt;"CAUSE OF DAMAGE : "+
[LSS_Inspection]LSS_DamageCause_txt;ST Start text;ST End text)

$pos_L:=*Position*(":";v_164_056_txt)  //

*ST SET ATTRIBUTES*(v_164_056_txt;1;$pos_L+2;Attribute bold style;1)

*ST SET ATTRIBUTES*(v_164_056_txt;1;$pos_L+2;Attribute background color
;"LightGray")

v_164_056_txt:=v_164_056_txt+" Testing height this is a test with losts of
wrapping and no CRs. "

v_164_056_txt:=v_164_056_txt+" Testing height this is a test with losts of
wrapping and no CRs. "

v_164_056_txt:=v_164_056_txt+" Testing height this is a test with losts of
wrapping and no CRs. "

v_164_056_txt:=v_164_056_txt+" Testing height this is a test with losts of
wrapping and no CRs. "

v_164_056_txt:=v_164_056_txt+" Testing height this is a test with losts of
wrapping and no CRs. "

v_164_056_txt:=v_164_056_txt+" Testing height this is a test with losts of
wrapping and no CRs. "

v_164_056_txt:=v_164_056_txt+" Testing height this is a test with losts of
wrapping and no CRs. "

v_164_056_txt:=v_164_056_txt+" Testing height this is a test with losts of
wrapping and no CRs. "

v_164_056_txt:=v_164_056_txt+" Testing height this is a test with losts of
wrapping and no CRs. "

v_164_056_txt:=v_164_056_txt+" Testing height this is a test with losts of
wrapping and no CRs. "


*OBJECT GET BEST SIZE*(*;"v_164_056_txt";$BWidth_l;$BHieght_L)

Thde width is way to wide. Is there a way I can adjust this so as to not
exceed the width as it appears on the form so only hieght changes in object
get best size

I am planning on writing some additional code to place text in arrays and
populate the text area one word at a time. If it gets too wide. I will add
a carriage return. This is a a lot of coding but should wortk. Any other
ideas out there

Thanks and regards

Chuck
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Re: Query from C#?

[Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech]

You can control access with SQL views.

> On Aug 7, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
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> I can see why a customer would want it but why would you want them to be
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Re: Query from C#?

[Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech]

Hi Pat,
I know almost nothing about C# but as we say in 4D land, "why would you
want to do that?"

I can see why a customer would want it but why would you want them to be
able to? And how would you control what they can access?

I think if they want some sort of ad hoc query capability you'd be better
off with ODBC or some sort of http api or SQL - something you can control.
Having said that, Miyako may well dash off a plugin that someone could
socket into before I have time to post this...

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> I've had an enquiry from a customer who wants to know if it is possible to
> query the database from a C# script and produce a report.
> Is it? (My knowledge of any version of C is way out of date ...)
> (Using v17)
>
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Query from C#?

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

I've had an enquiry from a customer who wants to know if it is possible to
query the database from a C# script and produce a report.
Is it? (My knowledge of any version of C is way out of date ...)
(Using v17)

Pat

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[ANN correction] 4DMethod August 8th Meeting – Configuration management for IT infrastructure using 4D, Balinder Walia

[Brent Raymond via 4D_Tech]

Hope to see you at our next 4DMethod  meeting on 
Wednesday, August 8th, 12:00 noon, CDT (UTC−5:00)!  Our own Balinder Walia in 
England will be digging into configuration management for IT cloud 
infrastructure using 4D.  Explore how entire cloud installations, like EC2 
instances, web server config, networking, ports, passwords, etc., can be fully 
automated and managed by 4D and Ansible Automation and Configuration management 
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Re: Scheduled ISP Maintenance @ 4D Office (France)

[Alan Chan via 4D_Tech]

I guess most engineers of its ISP were on vacation (the famous French summer 
vacation).

Alan Chan

4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> writes:
>I have been trying to get licensing since Friday Still no luck.
>
>dave
>
>On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:26 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech
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>> I'm still unable to register a licence as of Tuesday 11 AM UK time ...
>>
>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 15:24, Tai Bui via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> For some reason it appears that the internet has been down since the ISP
>>> performed their maintenance.
>>> The ISP has been informed and should be working on it.
>>>
>>> Apologies for the inconvenience.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> -Tai B.
>>>
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[ANN] 4DMethod June 27th Meeting – List box going in a new dimension with ORDA, Thomas Maul

[Brent Raymond via 4D_Tech]

Hope to see you at our next 4DMethod  meeting on 
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infrastructure using 4D.  Explore how entire cloud installations, like EC2 
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Re: Scheduled ISP Maintenance @ 4D Office (France)

[Dave Nasralla via 4D_Tech]

I have been trying to get licensing since Friday Still no luck.

dave

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:26 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> I'm still unable to register a licence as of Tuesday 11 AM UK time ...
>
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 15:24, Tai Bui via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> For some reason it appears that the internet has been down since the ISP
>> performed their maintenance.
>> The ISP has been informed and should be working on it.
>>
>> Apologies for the inconvenience.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> -Tai B.
>>
>>
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Re: Scheduled ISP Maintenance @ 4D Office (France)

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The worst of it is that trying to log in in the application crashes 4D with a 
dialog stating 'You can identify yourself ..." which will not dismiss

Steve
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I'm still unable to register a licence as of Tuesday 11 AM UK time ...

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> Hi,
>
> For some reason it appears that the internet has been down since the ISP
> performed their maintenance.
> The ISP has been informed and should be working on it.
>
> Apologies for the inconvenience.
>
> Best Regards,
> -Tai B.
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Re: Scheduled ISP Maintenance @ 4D Office (France)

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

I'm still unable to register a licence as of Tuesday 11 AM UK time ...

On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 15:24, Tai Bui via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
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> Hi,
>
> For some reason it appears that the internet has been down since the ISP
> performed their maintenance.
> The ISP has been informed and should be working on it.
>
> Apologies for the inconvenience.
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> Best Regards,
> -Tai B.
>
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Re: Export text columns containing carriage returns to Excel?

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

What Dougie said :)
PB

On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 17:08, Douglas Cryer via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
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> Brad,
>
> My stock answer to questions like this is.  Get yourself a copy of :
> http://www.pluggers.nl/product/xl-plugin/
>
> If you are doing anything serious with excel files this is the easiest and
> best solution and well worth the outlay.
>
> Regards,  Dougie
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