Re: Opinion

2020-04-25 Thread Kenneth Geiger via 4D_Tech 
Thanks to all for your opinions. I think I am well on way.

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 9:40 PM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote:
> 
> A note: you can do all the things you need to do with pictures, UUIDs etc in 
> v13 in preparation for v15+
> 
> 
>> Ken,
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Kenneth Geiger via 4D_Tech 
>>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, this is why I’m trying to get their 4D System to point where 
>>> it will run on a version of 4D that is happy on Win10. The only 
>>> reason I mentioned Win7 is if the consensus were to be that moving 
>>> from 4D v12 directly to 4D v15 is too big a step, I would move it 
>>> through v14 on my Win7 development environment. So far, nobody has 
>>> indicated that the jump from v12 to v15 would be a major issue. So, I
>>> ’m planing to go v12 —> v15 —> v17.
>> 
>> Personally, I never thought much of v14.  It seemed bloated and 
>> unstable.  I liked v13 and v15.  v15 also had both 32 and 64 bit 
>> versions.  That makes it easy to use JPR’s tool to convert pictures 
>> in the 32 bit version and them test them in the 64 bit version.
>> 
>> I would recommend v13 -> v15 -> v17.
>> 
>> 
>> Randy Kaempen
>> Intellex Corporation
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Re: Opinion

2020-04-25 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech 
A note: you can do all the things you need to do with pictures, UUIDs etc in 
v13 in preparation for v15+


> Ken,
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Kenneth Geiger via 4D_Tech 
>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, this is why I’m trying to get their 4D System to point where 
>> it will run on a version of 4D that is happy on Win10. The only 
>> reason I mentioned Win7 is if the consensus were to be that moving 
>> from 4D v12 directly to 4D v15 is too big a step, I would move it 
>> through v14 on my Win7 development environment. So far, nobody has 
>> indicated that the jump from v12 to v15 would be a major issue. So, I
>> ’m planing to go v12 ―> v15 ―> v17.
> 
> Personally, I never thought much of v14.  It seemed bloated and 
> unstable.  I liked v13 and v15.  v15 also had both 32 and 64 bit 
> versions.  That makes it easy to use JPR’s tool to convert pictures 
> in the 32 bit version and them test them in the 64 bit version.
> 
> I would recommend v13 -> v15 -> v17.
> 
> 
> Randy Kaempen
> Intellex Corporation
> 
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V18 QuickReport what am I missing

2020-04-25 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech 
I am looking at the Quick Report Editor in v18 for the firs time. It looks a 
lot less daunting for the end user which is a good thing. I have a couple of 
questions…

4D v18.1 LTS
Mac High Sierra

1. When I click the Sort popup in the popup associated with a column 
header I get a color list just as if I had click the color bucket next to it.

2. If you double click the grand total row in a column a control wheel 
pops up just above the field’s upper left corner, click the control wheel and a 
list of grand total options pops up. Select an option like Sum and nothing 
happens. If you Select Sum from the format control wheel in the lower right 
corner of the field you get the Sum icon. If you click this control wheel now 
in the upper left corner the Sum icon converts to ##s and is highlighted. Click 
the control wheel and select a different option like Average, nothing changes 
in the field.
  
3. If I execute with HTML  selected as the destination, I get a blank 
file. The docs says it will use “the default HTML template” and if I click 
Options and view I can see the default template. I selected the Default check 
box and I still get a blank file.

So far I have only looked at list reports.

 Perhaps these are bugs that have already been reported. The sorting 
problem severely reduces the usability of the new Quick Report Editor as you 
can not establish sub totals without being able to set the sorts.

John




John Baughman
Kailua, Hawaii
john...@hawaii.rr.com

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Re: New Notarization Issues

2020-04-25 Thread Paul Ringsmuth via 4D_Tech 
I have successfully notarized my 4D app Using DropDMG. I’m using 4D v18.0 on 
MacOS Catalina. 

Paul Ringsmuth
pringsm...@charter.net



> On Apr 21, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Peeps,
> I ran into this problem also. I replaced the Internet Commands plugin with
> the v18 version and that more or less fixed it.
> 
> I say "more or less" because after downloading the installer (a .dmg
> created with DropDMG) and installing the app, the user gets the message
> 
> *“CatBase 8.app” can’t be opened because Apple cannot check it for
> malicious software.*
> 
> This software needs to be updated. Contact the developer for more
> information.
> 
> 
> with the options "Show in Finder" and "OK".
> 
> This is an improvement on the previous version (pre-IC update), where the
> options were "Move to trash" and "Cancel".
> 
> So the user has to right-click on the app and choose Open, and then they
> get the dialog with the same alert message, but this time it has an *Open*
> option. Select that and everything works OK.
> 
> 
> So this is not a complete solution, as most users won't know what to do.
> 
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Pat
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 03:33, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
>> code signature can easily get invalidated if the app or plugin was not
>> packaged and distributed correctly.
>> for example, if you simply sign, zip and upload a file to a public server,
>> a downloaded copy would most probably be thrown to the bin.
>> 
>> the developer should sign, archive (pkg, zip, dmg), notarise, and staple
>> the app or plugin before distribution.
>> also a plugin created for v17 R6 or earlier has manifest.json in a
>> non-conventional location, which may get rejected by Catalina 10.15.3.
>> 
>> On Feb 12, 2020, at 13:18, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com
>> > wrote:
>> Slightly related. Any idea why I have a plug-in that is signed but shows
>> as damaged on Catalina but not in windows. I am not sure of other Mac OS
>> versions.
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