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Re: Windows Server 2012 & 4D Server v17.2

2019-07-19 Thread Ed Glassgow via 4D_Tech

You need to be sure that the firewall is configured correctly..  I run both and 
have no issues but needed to open all the appropriate ports.

Ed Glassgow
glass...@pcisys.net

On 7/19/19, 10:45 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech" 
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Have the clients tried connecting using a Custom address… 
192.16..1.150:19813 for example? I have found that for some of my windows 
installations This was necessary to make a connection, after which the recent 
connection created can be used.

John



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> I do not have access to the Windows Server Administration window (only to 
4D Server Window). 4D Server has been working fine there. A restart of the 4D 
Server to put up an application update,  (that works on a server in our shop) 
and now the clients cannot see 4D Server broadcasting.
> 
> I have gone into 4D server to ensure that it is broadcasting on 19813 and 
the 4D Admin window says that it is. It even shows network activity in that 
window. No clients can connect to the server. A 4D Client running on the server 
computer cannot connect either.
> 
> If I had access to the Windows Server Administration window I would poke 
around to try and find something (like the firewall on) causing this. 
> 
> Any pointers on what I should check for?
> 
> I am not used to having client controlled servers.
> 
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Re: OAuth

2019-03-15 Thread Ed Glassgow via 4D_Tech

Thanks Peter...  I will be interested in what you accomplish and how you do it. 
 I have a project going where I collect a bunch of sensor data using a 
Raspberry Pi and post it to a Google Sheet.  I have that working fine.  What. I 
would like to do from here is to use 4D to suck up that data and do analysis 
and reports.

Ed Glassgow
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> On 10 Mar 2019, at 09:51, Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
>  The server I’m hoping to talk to is the Value Added Tax server at HMRC 
in England (in a couple of months’ time, entering figures for VAT returns will 
have to be done by software rather than online, by hand, at present).

Hi Jeremy

I am also doing this. I have a couple of sites using the same 4D 
application that I need to make MTD compliant by next month for VAT return 
filing.

I’ve done quite a bit of API work before but am just at the HMRC “hello 
world” stage just now.

Will post my approaches here when I know what I’m doing !

Regards

Peter Jakobsson

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Re: SVG - Simple Example

2018-08-24 Thread Ed Glassgow via 4D_Tech

That's a marvelous tip Tai!  Thank you...

Ed

On 8/24/18, 10:45 AM, "Tai Bui"  wrote:

Hi,

A command that I find very useful is the SVGTool_SHOW_IN_VIEWER command.
You pass the SVG document to it and it will display it in a new window 
which also allows you to toggle to it's XML source.

Piggybacking off the earlier example:

C_TEXT($svg;$ref)
C_PICTURE($pict)

$svg:=SVG_New   // this new svg document is referred to as "$svg"
$ref:=SVG_New_rect ($svg;10;10;100;100)  // refer to this new rectangle in 
"$svg" as "$ref"
SVG_SET_FILL_BRUSH ($ref;"red")
SVGTool_SHOW_IN_VIEWER ($svg) //Will open a Viewer window for "$svg"

I find that this helps with seeing the structure of the SVG and how 4D 
builds it.
You can even modify the XML and see the effects immediately.

Hopefully this is helpful.

Best Regards,
-Tai B.


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Re: SVG - Simple Example

2018-08-24 Thread Ed Glassgow via 4D_Tech

Very cool...  Thank you Keith!

Ed

On 8/24/18, 10:11 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

---
C_TEXT($svg;$ref)
C_PICTURE($pict)

$svg:=SVG_New // this new svg document is referred to as "$svg"
$ref:=SVG_New_rect ($svg;10;10;100;100)  // refer to this new rectangle in 
"$svg" as "$ref"
SVG_SET_FILL_BRUSH ($ref;"red")
$pict:=SVG_Export_to_picture ($svg)  // get it to a picture variable
SVG_CLEAR ($svg)

SET PICTURE TO PASTEBOARD($pict)
INVOKE ACTION(ak show clipboard)
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SVG - Simple Example

2018-08-24 Thread Ed Glassgow via 4D_Tech

Good morning all,

Can someone direct me to very simple SVG example?

Thanks!

Ed Glassgow
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Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers?

2018-07-15 Thread Ed Glassgow via 4D_Tech

Splashtop (mac/pc)..  or if on Windows and you can do port forwarding, UltraVNC.

Sent from my iPad

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Re: 4D V17 - Quit to user mode

2018-07-12 Thread Ed Glassgow via 4D_Tech

Perfect...  Thanks much!

Also, thanks to Chip Scheide for the same advice.

Working perfectly in V17 now!

On 7/12/18, 1:34 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

You need to set the automatic action to those menu items to User Mode.

> On Jul 12, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Ed Glassgow via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
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> In those I have a "Quit to User" menu item that has no method attached to 
it.  Going back for many versions, this has dropped me into user mode, where I 
can, as all of you know, manipulate data more freely.  My issue is that I can't 
figure out a way to do this now.  Anybody have a solution?

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4D V17 - Quit to user mode

2018-07-12 Thread Ed Glassgow via 4D_Tech

I have been experimenting with V17 and so far it looks good and solid.  
However, there is one issue, new behavior, that has me struggling to figure 
out.  I have a number of local interpreted databases that generally run in 
Custom mode.  In those I have a "Quit to User" menu item that has no method 
attached to it.  Going back for many versions, this has dropped me into user 
mode, where I can, as all of you know, manipulate data more freely.  My issue 
is that I can't figure out a way to do this now.  Anybody have a solution?

Thanks in advance...

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Re: Downloading files via FTP

2018-04-20 Thread Ed Glassgow via 4D_Tech

Hi Pat,

I have one that uses FTP extensively and it's pretty solid once you get it 
configured correctly.  The one thing that I don't see in your code below is an 
FTP_Login, which is required to establish the connection as it gives you the 
value in the "vFTP-ID" variable that you pass to the FTP_Receive.  Do you do 
that elsewhere in code not posted? 

Ed Glassgow
glass...@pcisys.net


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Using v16.3 32-bit and 64-bit

I'm trying to download some files via FTP.
I get a list of the files in the specified directory:

$error:=*FTP_GetDirList *(vFTP_ID;$hostpath;$atDldFileNames;$aiDldFileSizes;
$aiDldFileKinds;$adDldFileDates;$aiDldFileTimes)
(all arrays have been previously declared).
No problem :)

Then loop through the array of file names and hopefully download each one:

*For *($i;1;*Size of array*($atDldFileNames))

*If *($$aiDldFileKinds{$i}=1)

  // skip this dude

*Else *

$localFilePath:=$localPath+$atDldFileNames{$i} // eg: "Macintosh
HD:Users:patbensky:clients:Anderson
Vacations:images:10--MedicineTrailSnow.jpg"

$filepath:=$hostpath+"/"+$atDldFileNames{$i} // eg:
public_html/Anderson/uploads/10--MedicineTrailSnow.jpg

$err:=*FTP_Receive *(vFTP_ID;$filepath;$localFilePath;0)

// $err is always -1 or 10060 (file not found)

*End for  *


I've tried various different versions of the file pathnames but can't find
one that works.

For example:

$hostpath:=$atDldFileNames{$i}

localFilePath:=$localPath+"temp.jpg"

.. and various other things.


A/ny suggestions as to where I'm going wrong?


Thanks!


Pat



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Re: 4D 6.8 Removing Components

2018-01-18 Thread Ed Glassgow via 4D_Tech

Hi Jody,

I have it for Windows…

Ed Glassgow
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On 1/18/18, 10:12 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech" 
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I asked this a few months ago. I have finally got from the client the 
correct version of their structure.

It is written in 6.8.6 of 4D (USA).

It has some components that I need to get out to convert to much later 
version so I can use on my big screens and later version of 4D.
I am not concerned about corruption so much as I will be writing it from 
scratch. It is more just to go through their methods, forms etc to see what 
they are doing.

I had deleted all my v6.8.6 applications. I do have my 4D 2003 though and 
it has an Insider.  I believe I need Insider for v6 to get the components out. 
I do not have a copy of v6.8 Insider to accomplish this.

Does anyone remember if there is an Insider for v6.8.x, and if they have a 
copy of it that they could send to me.

Thanks.

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Re: v14 on macOS Sierra?

2016-12-05 Thread Ed Glassgow

I am running on an older machine (2010 12-core Mac Pro). 

The issue may very well be the variant of 12.2 running on the new machines.

On 12/5/16, 9:35 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Kirk Brooks" 
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Ed,
Tell me more then. I signed up for the public beta just because I'd heard
that but v15.3 still crashes right off when I try to boot it up.

Are you running on and old Mac or a new one? I'm using one of the new ones.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Ed Glassgow  wrote:

> That comes as news to me as I am running 10.12.2 (Public Beta 4) without
> any issues using 15.3.
>
> Ed
>
> On 12/5/16, 9:05 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Kirk Brooks" <
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>
> Gerald,
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Gerald Balzer <
> gbal...@balzer-computing.ch>
> wrote:
>
> > This applies to all current 4D versions. Even 15 and 16(?).
> >
> v15.3 doesn't run on 10.12.2.
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Re: v14 on macOS Sierra?

2016-12-05 Thread Ed Glassgow

That comes as news to me as I am running 10.12.2 (Public Beta 4) without any 
issues using 15.3.

Ed

On 12/5/16, 9:05 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Kirk Brooks" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of lists.k...@gmail.com> wrote:

Gerald,

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Gerald Balzer 
wrote:

> This applies to all current 4D versions. Even 15 and 16(?).
>
v15.3 doesn't run on 10.12.2.

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Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread Ed Glassgow

Yep,  Double Helix!  You nailed it Doug…

That’s a nice walk down memory lane.  All but 4D were very difficult to use.  I 
used to host the Boulder Mac User Group at my office here in Boulder and I 
remember the night that someone brought a beta of this (the infamous Silver 
Surfer version).  What an eye opener that was, and a nice journey since!

Ed

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<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of dvonroe...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Ed Glassgow  wrote:

> There have been efforts at pure graphical programming software.  In fact,
> there was a database program that was drag and drop in the relatively 
early
> Mac days.  I wish that I could remember what it was called, but time has
> wiped that from my memory banks.  It was very cumbersome to accomplish
> anything of any complexity.  I don’t think that there is an ideal solution
> for everyone and have always thought that 4D offered a good blend.

Ed:

You're thinking of Double Helix.

When I started in 4D in 1991, I was hired to write a database application
for a business using any of the Mac DB's. The contestants were 4D, FoxPro,
Omnis, and Double Helix. FoxPro was too clumsy, Double Helix has an
interesting approach (creating "tiles") but I knew it wouldn't grow well,
and Omnis was so convoluted that I couldn't run the tutorials. 4D had a
flowchart module. :-)

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Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread Ed Glassgow

There have been efforts at pure graphical programming software.  In fact, there 
was a database program that was drag and drop in the relatively early Mac days. 
 I wish that I could remember what it was called, but time has wiped that from 
my memory banks.  It was very cumbersome to accomplish anything of any 
complexity.  I don’t think that there is an ideal solution for everyone and 
have always thought that 4D offered a good blend.

Ed

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<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of bill.we...@builderman.com> wrote:

As far as software “developers” are concerned, I may be an extreme example 
of someone who is bothered by this type of learning. I simply don’t have the 
patience/attention span/(motivation?) to devote the time and effort to the 
repetitive (to me, boring to the point of stifling) behaviors required to 
accomplish rote learning.

Specific to 4D and other scripting platforms where an important result is 
graphical, I’ve thought that I’d be a lot more productive if somehow the 
programming “language” itself were more, er, graphical. There surely have been 
improvements in my 25 years, but there’s still way too much text in this world.

8-)

Bill

> On Nov 14, 2016, at 6:26 PM, David Adams  wrote:
> 
> For those of you that pass parameters, order can matter. It's been, what,
> 30 years now I've been using 4D (!)  and I *still* have to double-check
> Position and Find in array
> 
> Position(Needle;Haystack)
> Find in array(Haystack;Needle)

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Re: v13 on Sierra?

2016-09-24 Thread Ed Glassgow

Good stuff John…

What continually surprises me is how few people are even tuned into virtual 
machines and what crazy useful things you can do with them.  One of the 
companies that I develop software for is completely Windows and they have a 
conference every two years that I attend and present at.  It is interesting to 
watch the reaction of people to see me open my Macbook Pro and have Windows 
projected on the screen behind me.  In the Q & A, I always get questions about 
what they are seeing and how it works.  There are a number of those people that 
have purchased Macs (or were really Mac people that had purchased Windows 
machines just to run the software) and run my software in a virtual machine.

On 9/24/16, 7:56 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of John Baughman" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of john...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

“To each his own”… couldn’t agree more.

The thing about VirtualBox I find fascinating is how good it is and yet how 
unheralded it is. Any discussion of VM software on a Mac and the only players 
you ever hear about are Fusion and Parallels. VirtualBox is never mentioned, 
nor is it advertised by Oracle.

I am not sure I understand why Oracle provides this product for free and so 
religiously keeps it current. I do all my windows 4D development with it and 
everything functions flawlessly. 

As an extreme example of how well VirtualBox works, I have a deployed 4D 
windows client/server database that talks to QuickBooks via COM Objects using 
Windows PowerShell scripts. I do not own a windows machine so had to develop 
this using 3 VirtualBox VMs, one running a Windows 7 4D server machine, one a 
QuickBooks Windows 7 server machine and one a 4D Windows 7 client machine. All 
the VMs were running on my Mac PowerBook. I was able to include a mac 4D Client 
on the PowerBook that could also talk to QuickBooks server via the Windows 4D 
Server. 

I probably could have done the same with Fusion or Parallels, but given my 
prior experience with each do not think it would have been as easy or as stable 
as it was with VirtualBox.

John

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Ed Glassgow  wrote:
> 
> This really accentuates the “to each his own” aspect of software.  Total 
upgrade costs for Fusion over the last 3 years has been a total of $100 ($50 
for version 6 to version 7 and $50 for version 7 to version 8, with the upgrade 
from version 8 to version 8.5, the current version that is fully compatible 
with Sierra, is free).  Not too bad for a frequently maintained, solid and 
useful piece of software.  I do all my Windows development using a virtual 
machine running Windows 10 64 bit (on a 12 core Mac Pro, with loads of memory). 
 It has been superb.
> 
> On 9/24/16, 6:54 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Scott Staley" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of isbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>I completely agree with John.  I have also used both Parallels and 
Fusion and
>eventually abandoned them for bootcamp primarily because of the 
constant
>upgrade costs every time there was a system upgrade (either OSX or 
Windows). 
>I use windows infrequently and primarily for code testing and it wasn't
>really a problem doing the full on boot.  
> 
>Then one day one of our IT guys mentioned virtualbox.  Theses guys 
normally
>treat Mac software like it's the plague so I was very surprised to 
find out
>about this from them. I was very pleasantly surprised.  It works great 
and
>it's free.  I actually like it better than both Parallels and Fusion. 
> 
>Unfortunately, like John, I've not tried to emulate mac inside a mac. 
>Hasn't been a need of mine but I recall them discussing it in the 
virtuabox
>instruction.  As I recall the biggest issue being the legality of the
>licensing.
> 
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Re: v13 on Sierra?

2016-09-24 Thread Ed Glassgow

This really accentuates the “to each his own” aspect of software.  Total 
upgrade costs for Fusion over the last 3 years has been a total of $100 ($50 
for version 6 to version 7 and $50 for version 7 to version 8, with the upgrade 
from version 8 to version 8.5, the current version that is fully compatible 
with Sierra, is free).  Not too bad for a frequently maintained, solid and 
useful piece of software.  I do all my Windows development using a virtual 
machine running Windows 10 64 bit (on a 12 core Mac Pro, with loads of memory). 
 It has been superb.

On 9/24/16, 6:54 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Scott Staley" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of isbo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I completely agree with John.  I have also used both Parallels and Fusion 
and
eventually abandoned them for bootcamp primarily because of the constant
upgrade costs every time there was a system upgrade (either OSX or 
Windows). 
I use windows infrequently and primarily for code testing and it wasn't
really a problem doing the full on boot.  

Then one day one of our IT guys mentioned virtualbox.  Theses guys normally
treat Mac software like it's the plague so I was very surprised to find out
about this from them. I was very pleasantly surprised.  It works great and
it's free.  I actually like it better than both Parallels and Fusion. 

Unfortunately, like John, I've not tried to emulate mac inside a mac. 
Hasn't been a need of mine but I recall them discussing it in the virtuabox
instruction.  As I recall the biggest issue being the legality of the
licensing.



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Re: v13 on Sierra?

2016-09-24 Thread Ed Glassgow

I don't think it could be any easier to create a Mac virtual machine using 
Fusion...  You just select "File... New", then select the installation method 
which is generally "Install from disk or image", point it at the Mac OS 
installer app and let it do it's thing.

Just for fun, I just created a Sierra virtual machine, just because I had the 
installer sitting on my desktop.  It took less than 20 seconds before it was 
running and working on the actual install of the OS in the virtual machine.

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 3:40 PM, John Baughman  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think anyone on the forum has ever mentioned Oracle’a VirtualBox. 
> Several years ago I abandoned Parallels for Fusion finding it much less prone 
> to compatibility issues and unexplained slow downs. I used Fusion for a while 
> and one day received a demo VM for a SQL/Web based Facilities Management 
> application. The VM used VirtualBox and after playing with it for a while 
> really liked it and made the switch for all my VM needs.
> 
> The best part is that it is free. Oracle updates it regularly and I find it 
> much easier to setup and maintain than Fusion or Parallels. I especially like 
> the way it handles networking. I often have to move a vm from one machine to 
> another in different networks. Mac to Mac, Windows to Windows,, Windows to 
> Mac. Redoing the network setup each time I found to be pretty easy.  
> 
> All my VMs run various flavors of Windows. I have not tried creating a VM 
> running Mac OS on either a mac or a windows machine. A quick google search 
> hints that it may a bit more involved than creating a Windows VM.
> 
> Given that it is free, wouldn’t hurt to give it a try before jumping into 
> Fusion or Parallels. I do not think you will be disappointed…
> 
> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 9:15 AM, Ortwin Zillgen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, is Fusion preferred over Parallels for Mac OS virtualization?
>> 
>> I prefer Parallels over Fusion, most of the time.
>> 4D does just fine in Parallels and Windows 10.
>> 
>> Virtualising SnowLeopard to run v2004 and older does work better in Fusion.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> O r t w i n  Z i l l g e n
>> -
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>>  
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Re: v13 on Sierra?

2016-09-21 Thread Ed Glassgow

Agreed!

On 9/21/16, 5:21 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Douglas von Roeder" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of dvonroe...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ed:

Thanks for the info on that. Nice that Apple has changed the licensing
terms and dropped the price of OS X Server, to boot (pardon the pun).



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On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Ed Glassgow  wrote:

> Apple used to only allow virtualization with the server version of OS X.
> The last version that had that restriction was 10.6.  With 10.7 and up you
> can legally run them in a virtual machine.  I’m not sure about Parallels,
> but VMware Fusion supports 10.7 and up, with the standard installer.  Just
> for fun, I just created a 10.7 (Lion) virtual machine.
>
> On 9/21/16, 5:04 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Douglas von Roeder" <
> 4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of dvonroe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tim:
>
> Parallels allows us to run OS X but there was a licensing issue with
> one
> version of OS X - not sure which version (10.x.x) or if it was OS X vs
> OS X
> Server.
>
> Did you see anything about that in your research?
>
>
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>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Tim Nevels  wrote:
>
> > On Sep 21, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Chuck Miller wrote:
> >
> > > What I did to solve this problem is to but VM ware (You can use
> > parallels) and install 10.6.8 server. Cost was about 20 bucks). I
> believe
> > newer versions of OS can be virtualized without using server but do
> not
> > know how.
> > >
> > > I am running 10.11.6 on my laptop and VM works great
> >
> > Hi Chuck,
> >
> > I’m already doing that with Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 running under
> Parallels
> > so I can still open the rare 4D 2004 databases. And you are right,
> it works
> > just great.
> >
> > I had not considered doing this with 10.9. Quick Google search makes
> it
> > appear this can be done very easily and without the need for 10.9
> Server.
> > This could be a good solution. Humm…
> >
> > http://kb.parallels.com/en/118806
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > 
> > Tim Nevels
> > Innovative Solutions
> > 785-749-3444
> > timnev...@mac.com
> > 
> >
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Re: v13 on Sierra?

2016-09-21 Thread Ed Glassgow

Apple used to only allow virtualization with the server version of OS X.  The 
last version that had that restriction was 10.6.  With 10.7 and up you can 
legally run them in a virtual machine.  I’m not sure about Parallels, but 
VMware Fusion supports 10.7 and up, with the standard installer.  Just for fun, 
I just created a 10.7 (Lion) virtual machine.

On 9/21/16, 5:04 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Douglas von Roeder" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of dvonroe...@gmail.com> wrote:

Tim:

Parallels allows us to run OS X but there was a licensing issue with one
version of OS X - not sure which version (10.x.x) or if it was OS X vs OS X
Server.

Did you see anything about that in your research?

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On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Tim Nevels  wrote:

> On Sep 21, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Chuck Miller wrote:
>
> > What I did to solve this problem is to but VM ware (You can use
> parallels) and install 10.6.8 server. Cost was about 20 bucks). I believe
> newer versions of OS can be virtualized without using server but do not
> know how.
> >
> > I am running 10.11.6 on my laptop and VM works great
>
> Hi Chuck,
>
> I’m already doing that with Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 running under Parallels
> so I can still open the rare 4D 2004 databases. And you are right, it 
works
> just great.
>
> I had not considered doing this with 10.9. Quick Google search makes it
> appear this can be done very easily and without the need for 10.9 Server.
> This could be a good solution. Humm…
>
> http://kb.parallels.com/en/118806
>
> Tim
>
> 
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> Innovative Solutions
> 785-749-3444
> timnev...@mac.com
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Re: v13 on Sierra?

2016-09-21 Thread Ed Glassgow

Hey all,

I am running my engineering company on Version 13.6 (Windows server and mostly 
Windows clients, but with a couple of Mac clients, including myself).  
Unfortunately, 13.6 running on MacOS 12 Sierra is unpredictably unstable.  It 
is frustrating because it is almost useable, but will occasionally just quit.  
I can relaunch and do exactly the same thing that I was previously doing and it 
works just fine.  I have not been able to come up with any way to predict when 
it will go away, it just does.  Sucks!

Ed Glassgow
glass...@pcisys.net

On 9/21/16, 12:13 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Douglas von Roeder" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of dvonroe...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jim:

I have a customer who wants to (re)start using their 4D app on the Mac.
After reading some of the comments here, we've decided to *not* release on
V13 and are using this as the opportunity to do the upgrade to V15.x/V16.

The primary reason for this decision is that I read multiple reports of 4D
V13.5 crashing on 10.11 when quitting or when switching applications. I was
very relieved that my client agreed with me that it's not good to release a
version of software when we know it will crash under routine use.

Customers forget a version that was delivered late. Customers do *not*
forget a version that has bugs.

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On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Jim Labos - infobase 
wrote:

> I have a customer that is asking if v13 will work on Sierra.
>
> I admit I didn't look too hard yet but anyone know if it's at least OK (I
> have v13 on El Capitan and the only problem is in desgn mode it will quit
> on
> me randomly but seldom).
>
> Thanks
>
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>
>
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Re: carbon black

2016-08-24 Thread Ed Glassgow

We need a “Like” button for emails like this!


Ed Glassgow
glass...@pcisys.net


On 8/24/16, 12:56 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Randy Jaynes" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of ra...@printpoint.com> wrote:

Because gun metal gray and Apple IIcs beige are just so….80s

They figured that may a nice deep black with maybe some lo-rider glo lights 
and fluorescent purple trim would be just the thing.

Thank God I was able to talk them out of the green fuzzy dice and carpeting 
the inside of the server. I can only imagine the calls later about the server 
overheating and shutting down because the fans were getting clogged.

Randy

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Palisades, NY 10964 


 

> On Aug 24, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Chuck Miller 
 wrote:
> 
> Why would you want to paint your server? :)
> 
> Regards
> Chuck
> 

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> 
> 
>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Randy Jaynes  wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone have any experience using Carbon Black on servers and client 
machines with 4D Server?
>> 
>> I’ve been asked if it’s ok to install, but have no personal experience.
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