Re: 4D Server - Not letting go of users
I'm on version 15.4 and am seeing what I call "ghost sessions". It's a logon where you see in the users section of the server admin where the 4D username is blank. It's the kind of thing you see where someone has called up the logon screen, but has not logged in. I'll see other entries where the same machine name and ip address where the user actually is logged on. These ghost users can not be dropped and do take up a license. This is also the network layer. Anyone else see this on occasion? dave On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Randy Engle via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Hi Lahav, > > Thanks for the note. > I'm pretty sure we are using the legacy network layer > But I'll check. > > Thanks > > Randy Engle > XC2 Software LLC > > > -Original Message- > From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of lists via > 4D_Tech > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 12:30 PM > To: Randy Engle via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > Cc: lists > Subject: RE: 4D Server - Not letting go of users > > Hi Randy, > > I see this quite a bit, and it has something to do with the new network > layer. I have reported it to tech support, but never really saw the issues > resolved. > > The problem goes away if I use the legacy network layer. > > Cheers, > > Lahav > > > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- David Nasralla Clean Air Engineering ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: 4D Server - Not letting go of users
Hi Lahav, Thanks for the note. I'm pretty sure we are using the legacy network layer But I'll check. Thanks Randy Engle XC2 Software LLC -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of lists via 4D_Tech Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 12:30 PM To: Randy Engle via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Cc: lists Subject: RE: 4D Server - Not letting go of users Hi Randy, I see this quite a bit, and it has something to do with the new network layer. I have reported it to tech support, but never really saw the issues resolved. The problem goes away if I use the legacy network layer. Cheers, Lahav ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: 4D Server - Not letting go of users
Hi Randy, I see this quite a bit, and it has something to do with the new network layer. I have reported it to tech support, but never really saw the issues resolved. The problem goes away if I use the legacy network layer. Cheers, Lahav -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Randy Engle via 4D_Tech Sent: March 16, 2017 1:25 PM To: '4D iNug Technical' <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Cc: Randy Engle <4d.l...@xc2.us>; bob.mil...@parker.com Subject: RE: 4D Server - Not letting go of users Bob, Yes! This is what I'm referring to. How come, why for? What can we do? Anybody got an idea? Thanks Randy Engle XC2 Software LLC -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of bob.miller--- via 4D_Tech Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 12:05 PM To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com Cc: bob.mil...@parker.com Subject: Re: 4D Server - Not letting go of users RE> If a client/user does a force quit (i.e. Task Manager) Just yesterday I had a problem where we had some 'license count exceeded' messages - very rare - and I noticed that we had people who were logged in for days. Some had force-quit and others had simply closed their remote desktop sessions, but 4D Server never released them. This is with Windows v15r4. Bob Miller Chomerics, a division of Parker Hannifin Corporation ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: 4D Server - Not letting go of users
Bob, Yes! This is what I'm referring to. How come, why for? What can we do? Anybody got an idea? Thanks Randy Engle XC2 Software LLC -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of bob.miller--- via 4D_Tech Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 12:05 PM To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com Cc: bob.mil...@parker.com Subject: Re: 4D Server - Not letting go of users RE> If a client/user does a force quit (i.e. Task Manager) Just yesterday I had a problem where we had some 'license count exceeded' messages - very rare - and I noticed that we had people who were logged in for days. Some had force-quit and others had simply closed their remote desktop sessions, but 4D Server never released them. This is with Windows v15r4. Bob Miller Chomerics, a division of Parker Hannifin Corporation ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Server - Not letting go of users
RE> If a client/user does a force quit (i.e. Task Manager) Just yesterday I had a problem where we had some 'license count exceeded' messages - very rare - and I noticed that we had people who were logged in for days. Some had force-quit and others had simply closed their remote desktop sessions, but 4D Server never released them. This is with Windows v15r4. Bob Miller Chomerics, a division of Parker Hannifin Corporation ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Server - Not letting go of users
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Randy Engle via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > If a client/user does a force quit (i.e. Task Manager), > Their user account on 4D Server persists, and takes up a license. > I used to think that these would fall off in a short amount of time, but I > found some that were 2-3 days old. > > Of course, if server is restarted, all is fine. > > This is Windows Server 2012 > 4D Server 15.3 > > (Maybe 15.4 fixes this, I haven't checked.) > > Anybody else experience this? > > Thanks > > Randy Engle > XC2 Software LLC > I think it depends upon setting on server re client time outs if you have unlimited they may never drop off. You could kill the user Regards Chuck -- - Chuck Miller Voice: (617) 739-0306 Fax: (617) 232-1064 Informed Solutions, Inc. Brookline, MA 02446 USA Registered 4D Developer Providers of 4D, Sybase & SQL Sever connectivity http://www.informed-solutions.com - This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission, you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
4D Server - Not letting go of users
If a client/user does a force quit (i.e. Task Manager), Their user account on 4D Server persists, and takes up a license. I used to think that these would fall off in a short amount of time, but I found some that were 2-3 days old. Of course, if server is restarted, all is fine. This is Windows Server 2012 4D Server 15.3 (Maybe 15.4 fixes this, I haven't checked.) Anybody else experience this? Thanks Randy Engle XC2 Software LLC ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
