RE: ADA Compliance ???

2018-01-24 Thread Randy Engle via 4D_Tech
Thanks to all for the ADA Resources!

Randy Engle, Director
XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE!


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Randy,

This you give you a good overview of what’s required;

https://www.searchenginejournal.com/ada-compliant-website/200106/



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Re: ADA Compliance ???

2018-01-24 Thread Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech
I’m familiar with web accessibility:

https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/accessibility.php 
<https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/accessibility.php>

I found this as an example for desktop software: 
https://www.justice.gov/crt/software-accessibility-checklist 
<https://www.justice.gov/crt/software-accessibility-checklist>

Generally, the question is how would a person with a disability use your 
software? On the desktop I assumed most people punted to the OS. Apple has done 
a lot in that regard.

I’m surprised (not) that this is the first time it’s come up for you, since the 
ADA was passed in 1990.


> On Jan 24, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Randy Engle via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Every week, or so, one of our customers comes up with something that they 
> do/need that I've never heard of before.
> 
> This weeks winner is a major city in Southern California.  (no names 
> mentioned...)
> 
> They want to know at  what "Level" our web product is ADA compliant.
> 
> I'm aware of ADA compliance when it comes to physical spaces, ramps, 
> bathrooms, etc., but not for software (web pages, specifically)
> 
> Anybody had the pleasure of handling this one yet?
> Know of any resources?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Randy Engle, Director
> XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE!
> 
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Re: ADA Compliance ???

2018-01-24 Thread Graham Langley via 4D_Tech
Randy,

This you give you a good overview of what’s required;

https://www.searchenginejournal.com/ada-compliant-website/200106/



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Re: ADA Compliance ???

2018-01-24 Thread Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech
No direct experience, but a couple of resources.

Government rules: 
https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-ict-refresh/final-regulatory-impact-analysis#_Toc471376906

DOJ Quick Check: https://www.justice.gov/crt/software-accessibility-checklist

Real world example: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2zy0nd

Keith - CDI

> On Jan 24, 2018, at 10:04 AM, Randy Engle via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Every week, or so, one of our customers comes up with something that they 
> do/need that I've never heard of before.
> 
> This weeks winner is a major city in Southern California.  (no names 
> mentioned...)
> 
> They want to know at  what "Level" our web product is ADA compliant.
> 
> I'm aware of ADA compliance when it comes to physical spaces, ramps, 
> bathrooms, etc., but not for software (web pages, specifically)
> 
> Anybody had the pleasure of handling this one yet?
> Know of any resources?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Randy Engle, Director
> XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE!
> 
> 
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Re: ADA Compliance ???

2018-01-24 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
I would speculate that ADA compliance would include:
-- Read from screen capabilities - for visual impairment
-- zooming capabilities - for (less severe) visual impairment
-- maybe color redefinition - for color blindness
-- if your application uses sound to communicate - a visual prompt for 
hearing impaired
-- alternate input options for the physically impaired (voice vs 
keyboard), alternate mousing

I have NEVER tried any of these, but some of this capability *might* 
exist at the OS level.
I know that there are some options with OS X, but I have never tried 
any of them with 4D, or anything I have developed.


On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 08:04:44 -0800, Randy Engle via 4D_Tech wrote:
> Every week, or so, one of our customers comes up with something that 
> they do/need that I've never heard of before.
> 
> This weeks winner is a major city in Southern California.  (no names 
> mentioned...)
> 
> They want to know at  what "Level" our web product is ADA compliant.
> 
> I'm aware of ADA compliance when it comes to physical spaces, ramps, 
> bathrooms, etc., but not for software (web pages, specifically)
> 
> Anybody had the pleasure of handling this one yet?
> Know of any resources?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Randy Engle, Director
> XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE!
> 
> 
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ADA Compliance ???

2018-01-24 Thread Randy Engle via 4D_Tech
Every week, or so, one of our customers comes up with something that they 
do/need that I've never heard of before.

This weeks winner is a major city in Southern California.  (no names 
mentioned...)

They want to know at  what "Level" our web product is ADA compliant.

I'm aware of ADA compliance when it comes to physical spaces, ramps, bathrooms, 
etc., but not for software (web pages, specifically)

Anybody had the pleasure of handling this one yet?
Know of any resources?

Thanks

Randy Engle, Director
XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE!


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