Re: Access to Macintosh Accessibility tools from within 4D
I believe it was for the Leap Motion controller. _very_ fun plugin. Tom Swenson > I'd check with Miyako. I recall him demoing something he wrote maybe 10 > years ago that allowed 4D to respond to movement. It was cool but I > couldn't think of anything to do with it. > > > -- > Kirk Brooks > San Francisco, CA ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Access to Macintosh Accessibility tools from within 4D
> On May 1, 2018, at 00:48, Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Thanks Tim and Kirk. Does Miyako have a bat signal, like J*P*R does? Keisuke doesn’t need one. B) I think he will answer as soon as he read the message. Milan ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Access to Macintosh Accessibility tools from within 4D
Thanks Tim and Kirk. Does Miyako have a bat signal, like J*P*R does? > On Apr 30, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 12:17 PM Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >> On Apr 30, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Lee Hinde wrote: >>> Someone working with the client is telling me that the 4D GUI isn't >>> responding as other programs do. They're using v15. >>> >>> Has anyone worked on making their database accessible? Any pointers? >> >> I remember a plugin that was available for 4D that would accept voice >> commands and you could then program 4D to respond. I forget the name of the >> guy that created it. I went to his session at 4D Summit a few years ago. >> You might be able to use that and do some custom programming to make your >> 4D application voice accessible. >> >> Anybody remember the name of this plugin or the guy that wrote it. >> > > I'd check with Miyako. I recall him demoing something he wrote maybe 10 > years ago that allowed 4D to respond to movement. It was cool but I > couldn't think of anything to do with it. > > > -- > Kirk Brooks > San Francisco, CA > === > > *We go vote - they go home* > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Access to Macintosh Accessibility tools from within 4D
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 12:17 PM Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > On Apr 30, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Lee Hinde wrote: > > Someone working with the client is telling me that the 4D GUI isn't > > responding as other programs do. They're using v15. > > > > Has anyone worked on making their database accessible? Any pointers? > > I remember a plugin that was available for 4D that would accept voice > commands and you could then program 4D to respond. I forget the name of the > guy that created it. I went to his session at 4D Summit a few years ago. > You might be able to use that and do some custom programming to make your > 4D application voice accessible. > > Anybody remember the name of this plugin or the guy that wrote it. > I'd check with Miyako. I recall him demoing something he wrote maybe 10 years ago that allowed 4D to respond to movement. It was cool but I couldn't think of anything to do with it. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *We go vote - they go home* ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Access to Macintosh Accessibility tools from within 4D
On Apr 30, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Lee Hinde wrote: > A client has been in an accident and has lost use of his hands and needs to > operate his 4D database via speech. I'm told that the Mac Accessibility > System Preference can be configured so that you can talk to your mac and > verbally click buttons and operate menus (I'm getting an error right now > trying to configure it.) > > Someone working with the client is telling me that the 4D GUI isn't > responding as other programs do. They're using v15. > > Has anyone worked on making their database accessible? Any pointers? The issue is that “controls” like buttons and fields need to be implemented and defined as “native” so that macOS can query the window and obtain all the controls. Then it can “remote control” them. I don’t believe 4D draws buttons on forms in this way. It may use “native” controls but it doesn’t register them in the proper way. An example is tabbing to popup menus or radio buttons. macOS supports this natively, but you can’t do this in 4D. It works in 4D on Windows, but not on macOS. I think you maybe be out of luck getting the native Mac Accessibility working inside 4D. I remember a plugin that was available for 4D that would accept voice commands and you could then program 4D to respond. I forget the name of the guy that created it. I went to his session at 4D Summit a few years ago. You might be able to use that and do some custom programming to make your 4D application voice accessible. Anybody remember the name of this plugin or the guy that wrote it. Tim * Tim Nevels Innovative Solutions 785-749-3444 timnev...@mac.com * ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Access to Macintosh Accessibility tools from within 4D
A client has been in an accident and has lost use of his hands and needs to operate his 4D database via speech. I'm told that the Mac Accessibility System Preference can be configured so that you can talk to your mac and verbally click buttons and operate menus (I'm getting an error right now trying to configure it.) Someone working with the client is telling me that the 4D GUI isn't responding as other programs do. They're using v15. Has anyone worked on making their database accessible? Any pointers? ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
