Re: Can't delete methods
No, but when I went to the home tab, I couldn't find the methods -- not even in the subfolders at the bottom of the list. Then, on a whim I looked in the trash and there they were. Just to make sure I wasn't crazy, I went *back* to the methods list, and there they were also. So, I double-checked my list and then emptied the trash. Then, I think I tried to go back to the methods list, but almost immediate received an error dialog saying, "The method could not be loaded." I think I clicked the "Continue" button fifty times, before deciding to throw in the towel and force-quit it. After re-opening, the methods were gone, and I haven't had any related alert dialogs, so far. Maybe this account will help someone else, in the future. Just make a backup (I have one) ahead of emptying your 4D trash, to be safe. Thanks for the help! Doug On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > have tried deleting those 4 methods on the home tab of Explorer, as > opposed to the methods tab? > > > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** > ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Can't delete methods
have tried deleting those 4 methods on the home tab of Explorer, as opposed to the methods tab? ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Can't delete methods
Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Thanks for the feedback. I've renamed them aa_CannotDelete1, aa_CannotDelete2,... On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Joshua Hunter via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Doug, > > We had this problem with a few methods. Went on for years. We could edit > the content, but not delete them (tried every single 4D user including > designer). At some point after multiple 4D version upgrades and repairs we > were able to remove them. Not sure what the exact fix was. I just made sure > that they were empty so that no matter what they couldn't get called and do > something. > > Joshua Hunter > jos...@dwdev.com > (425)673-1974 > www.dwdev.com > Dataworks Development, Inc. > Providing secure and configurable data management solutions for research > and clinical labs since 1987. > > > -Original Message- > From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Doug > Hall via 4D_Tech > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:46 PM > To: 4D iNug Technical > Cc: Doug Hall > Subject: Re: Can't delete methods > > I repaired my structure, as suggested and still cannot delete the methods. > They're from a 4D 2004 converted Foundation structure. Most of those > methods will delete just fine, but I've found four, so far, that will not > go away. > > :-/ > Doug > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > Ah - sometimes the Explorer doesn't completely set itself to the > > 'area' you clicked on in the left column. So if you 'think' you've > > selected the "Methods" you may not have. Click it again and then try the > delete again. > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech < > > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com > > > wrote: > > > > > I'm just clicking the minus sign below the project methods list. Is > > > there another way? > > > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Doug Hall > > wrote: > > > > > > > Nothing but a system alert sound. > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > > > > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Doug, > > > >> How are you trying to delete them and what happens when you do? > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech < > > > >> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > I have a few methods that I can't delete. I looked in the > > > >> > method > > > >> properties > > > >> > and can find nothing out of the ordinary, which might be > > > >> > preventing > > > >> this. > > > >> > They're not used anywhere in my database, and I even emptied > > > >> > the > > > >> methods. > > > >> > Can someone please point me in the right direction, here? > > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks, > > > >> > Doug > > > >> > > > > ** > > > >> > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > > >> > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > > > >> > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > > >> > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > > >> > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > > >> > > > > ** > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Kirk Brooks > > > >> San Francisco, CA > > > >> === > > > >> > > > >> *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men > > > >> to > > do > > > >> nothing.* > > > >> > > > >> *- Edmund Burke* > > > >> > > ** > > > >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > > >> FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > > > >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > > >
RE: Can't delete methods
Doug, We had this problem with a few methods. Went on for years. We could edit the content, but not delete them (tried every single 4D user including designer). At some point after multiple 4D version upgrades and repairs we were able to remove them. Not sure what the exact fix was. I just made sure that they were empty so that no matter what they couldn't get called and do something. Joshua Hunter jos...@dwdev.com (425)673-1974 www.dwdev.com Dataworks Development, Inc. Providing secure and configurable data management solutions for research and clinical labs since 1987. -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Doug Hall via 4D_Tech Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:46 PM To: 4D iNug Technical Cc: Doug Hall Subject: Re: Can't delete methods I repaired my structure, as suggested and still cannot delete the methods. They're from a 4D 2004 converted Foundation structure. Most of those methods will delete just fine, but I've found four, so far, that will not go away. :-/ Doug On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Ah - sometimes the Explorer doesn't completely set itself to the > 'area' you clicked on in the left column. So if you 'think' you've > selected the "Methods" you may not have. Click it again and then try the > delete again. > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com > > wrote: > > > I'm just clicking the minus sign below the project methods list. Is > > there another way? > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Doug Hall > wrote: > > > > > Nothing but a system alert sound. > > > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > > > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Doug, > > >> How are you trying to delete them and what happens when you do? > > >> > > >> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech < > > >> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >> > I have a few methods that I can't delete. I looked in the > > >> > method > > >> properties > > >> > and can find nothing out of the ordinary, which might be > > >> > preventing > > >> this. > > >> > They're not used anywhere in my database, and I even emptied > > >> > the > > >> methods. > > >> > Can someone please point me in the right direction, here? > > >> > > > >> > Thanks, > > >> > Doug > > >> > > > ** > > >> > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > >> > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > > >> > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > >> > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > >> > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > >> > > > ** > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Kirk Brooks > > >> San Francisco, CA > > >> === > > >> > > >> *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men > > >> to > do > > >> nothing.* > > >> > > >> *- Edmund Burke* > > >> > ** > > >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > >> FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > > >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > >> Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > >> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > >> > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > > > ** > > > > > > -- > Kirk Brooks > San Francisco, CA > === > > *The only thing necessary for the
Re: Can't delete methods
I repaired my structure, as suggested and still cannot delete the methods. They're from a 4D 2004 converted Foundation structure. Most of those methods will delete just fine, but I've found four, so far, that will not go away. :-/ Doug On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Ah - sometimes the Explorer doesn't completely set itself to the 'area' you > clicked on in the left column. So if you 'think' you've selected the > "Methods" you may not have. Click it again and then try the delete again. > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com > > wrote: > > > I'm just clicking the minus sign below the project methods list. Is there > > another way? > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Doug Hall > wrote: > > > > > Nothing but a system alert sound. > > > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > > > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Doug, > > >> How are you trying to delete them and what happens when you do? > > >> > > >> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech < > > >> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >> > I have a few methods that I can't delete. I looked in the method > > >> properties > > >> > and can find nothing out of the ordinary, which might be preventing > > >> this. > > >> > They're not used anywhere in my database, and I even emptied the > > >> methods. > > >> > Can someone please point me in the right direction, here? > > >> > > > >> > Thanks, > > >> > Doug > > >> > > > ** > > >> > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > >> > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > > >> > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > >> > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > >> > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > >> > > > ** > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Kirk Brooks > > >> San Francisco, CA > > >> === > > >> > > >> *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to > do > > >> nothing.* > > >> > > >> *- Edmund Burke* > > >> > ** > > >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > >> FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > > >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > >> Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > >> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > >> > ** > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > ** > > > > > > -- > Kirk Brooks > San Francisco, CA > === > > *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do > nothing.* > > *- Edmund Burke* > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** > ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Can't delete methods
> I'm just clicking the minus sign below the project methods list. Is there > another way? Run a verify on your structure, repair if needed. Also try quitting, deleting the .4dindy, and restarting. Neil -- Privacy Disclaimer: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the named addressee. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please delete this email from your system and notify the sender immediately by replying to this email. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. The Alternative Investments division of UMB Fund Services provides a full range of services to hedge funds, funds of funds and private equity funds. Any tax advice in this communication is not intended to be used, and cannot be used, by a client or any other person or entity for the purpose of (a) avoiding penalties that may be imposed on any taxpayer or (b) promoting, marketing, or recommending to another party any matter addressed herein. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Can't delete methods
Ah - sometimes the Explorer doesn't completely set itself to the 'area' you clicked on in the left column. So if you 'think' you've selected the "Methods" you may not have. Click it again and then try the delete again. On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > wrote: > I'm just clicking the minus sign below the project methods list. Is there > another way? > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Doug Hall wrote: > > > Nothing but a system alert sound. > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > >> Doug, > >> How are you trying to delete them and what happens when you do? > >> > >> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech < > >> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com > >> > wrote: > >> > >> > I have a few methods that I can't delete. I looked in the method > >> properties > >> > and can find nothing out of the ordinary, which might be preventing > >> this. > >> > They're not used anywhere in my database, and I even emptied the > >> methods. > >> > Can someone please point me in the right direction, here? > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Doug > >> > > ** > >> > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > >> > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > >> > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > >> > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > >> > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > >> > > ** > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Kirk Brooks > >> San Francisco, CA > >> === > >> > >> *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do > >> nothing.* > >> > >> *- Edmund Burke* > >> ** > >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > >> FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > >> Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > >> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > >> ** > > > > > > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke* ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Can't delete methods
I'm just clicking the minus sign below the project methods list. Is there another way? On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Doug Hall wrote: > Nothing but a system alert sound. > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >> Doug, >> How are you trying to delete them and what happens when you do? >> >> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech < >> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com >> > wrote: >> >> > I have a few methods that I can't delete. I looked in the method >> properties >> > and can find nothing out of the ordinary, which might be preventing >> this. >> > They're not used anywhere in my database, and I even emptied the >> methods. >> > Can someone please point me in the right direction, here? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Doug >> > ** >> > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >> > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html >> > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >> > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >> > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >> > ** >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Kirk Brooks >> San Francisco, CA >> === >> >> *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do >> nothing.* >> >> *- Edmund Burke* >> ** >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >> FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >> Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >> ** > > > ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Can't delete methods
Nothing but a system alert sound. On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Doug, > How are you trying to delete them and what happens when you do? > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com > > wrote: > > > I have a few methods that I can't delete. I looked in the method > properties > > and can find nothing out of the ordinary, which might be preventing this. > > They're not used anywhere in my database, and I even emptied the methods. > > Can someone please point me in the right direction, here? > > > > Thanks, > > Doug > > ** > > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > ** > > > > > -- > Kirk Brooks > San Francisco, CA > === > > *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do > nothing.* > > *- Edmund Burke* > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Can't delete methods
Doug, How are you trying to delete them and what happens when you do? On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > wrote: > I have a few methods that I can't delete. I looked in the method properties > and can find nothing out of the ordinary, which might be preventing this. > They're not used anywhere in my database, and I even emptied the methods. > Can someone please point me in the right direction, here? > > Thanks, > Doug > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.* *- Edmund Burke* ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Can't delete methods
I have a few methods that I can't delete. I looked in the method properties and can find nothing out of the ordinary, which might be preventing this. They're not used anywhere in my database, and I even emptied the methods. Can someone please point me in the right direction, here? Thanks, Doug ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
