Re: Please vote for this feature request: Raise the 31 character limit
On 7/03/2017, at 8:55 am, Timothy Penner wrote: > > Don't click on the green + under the "Average" heading. > The green + expands the breakdown of the Average. > > Instead, you should see 4 stars to the RIGHT of the green plus under the > "Rate This" heading. OK that works - thanks Tim. In my defence, it never occurred to me to try to click a disabled star button - they look disabled - they are dull grey. If they were the bright colour they become on mouse rollover, I would probably have clicked it before. Which takes me to “I hate interfaces which hide their choices” - but I’ll stop there :-) Cheers, Keith ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Please vote for this feature request: Raise the 31 character limit
> … > The green + expands the breakdown of the Average. Since I’ve expressed my dislike of hidden interfaces, I may as well also indicate my puzzlement when interface designers completely change the accepted function of an icon. The + button on the vote page is a classic example. In my (rather sheltered) world: - a downward arrowhead “means” expand it (as in a dropdown menu) - a + button means “add a new one” Oh well... ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Please vote for this feature request: Raise the 31 character limit
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Keith Goebel wrote: > [snip] > > Curious interface... > Understatement! Steve Simpson Cimarron Software ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Please vote for this feature request: Raise the 31 character limit
Don't click on the green + under the "Average" heading. The green + expands the breakdown of the Average. Instead, you should see 4 stars to the RIGHT of the green plus under the "Rate This" heading. http://imgur.com/6dzzQ8M -Tim ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Please vote for this feature request: Raise the 31 character limit
For the second time recently, I tried to vote for a request - and failed. Using Safari on OS X 10.10.5 - login to forum - go to request page - click little green + button on first post - click a stars row - now I get a list of users (the currently logged in ones I assume) - it seems that to finish my vote I have to select a user - why do I have to choose a user? - what will happen when I do choose? Curious interface... ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Please vote for this feature request: Raise the 31 character limit
> > > uh... Do you mean for variable names? nah... no thanks. Can't > remember the last time I felt constrained by a 31 char limit. In fact, > reading code with a bunch of variable names approaching 20 char makes my > blood pressure go up. My main problem is method names, although others have asked for longer variable names and I've got nothing against them either. I make more methods than variables. For more details, see the thread: http://forums.4d.fr/Post/EN/18946884/0/0/ The worst for me is meaningless variable names. The > next worst thing for me is really long variable names that could use some > smart concise editing that retains meaning with readability. > We all hate meaningless names, so no argument there. As to why 31 characters is not enough, it's because some (a lot?) of us use part of the name to create a pseudo-namespace prefix. That burns up a lot of characters but brings huge benefits. So, the remaining character limit (in my case) is 20 characters already ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Please vote for this feature request: Raise the 31 character limit
On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 3:00 PM, David Adams wrote: > Please vote for this feature request: Raise the 31 character > limit (David Adams) > uh... Do you mean for variable names? nah... no thanks. Can't remember the last time I felt constrained by a 31 char limit. In fact, reading code with a bunch of variable names approaching 20 char makes my blood pressure go up. The worst for me is meaningless variable names. The next worst thing for me is really long variable names that could use some smart concise editing that retains meaning with readability. Steve Simpson Cimarron Software ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Please vote for this feature request: Raise the 31 character limit
Every time I return to 4D programming the 31 character limit bites me. I spend some silly amount of time trying to jam enough information into names. I hate it. So much. Part of the problem is that 4D is missing any kind of module concept or scope, so I burn up characters with a module prefix. Which keeps my code a lot more reliable...so I won't be giving that up. This feature request has been around forever. Satisfying it would make many of us a whole lot more productive in 4D. it would deliver a real, daily improvement to work with 4D, for those of us that use longer names. Feature requests on the NUG are just talk. Comments here are *officially* ignored. So, to make a feature request count, you have to do it on the forums, like this: http://forums.4d.fr/Post/EN/18946884/0/0/ You vote by logging into the Forums, finding the thread, and then clicking on the "rate this" stars at the top. Tim Penner recently posted a link to a Tech Tip on how to vote: Tech Tip: How to vote for a feature request http://kb.4d.com/assetid=76726 Note that logging into the Forums seems to work now. I use Chrome and it remembers my ID and seems to work fine now. (In the past, I could never seem to get the login to stick...now it seems to work just fine.) ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
