Re: Window type -724 (more info)

2019-06-19 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
I guess :)  so

Thanks
Chip
> 
> but how they map to 4D constants for Open window is anybody's guess.

Hell is other people 
 Jean-Paul Sartre
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Re: Window type -724 (more info)

2019-06-19 Thread Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech
All good advice, but still interesting to explore.

Keith - CDI

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Re: Window type -724 (more info)

2019-06-19 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
You should look at the v17 docs for the window types that will work going 
forward.  A lot of these old window types won’t work on 64-bit - it won’t crash 
but some odd things happen like opening the new form in the existing window, 
etc. 

Stick to the v17 documented window types for best results going forward

> On Jun 19, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I have no idea!  :)
> 
> this is a floating window I use for window management.
> In my system it contains a listbox with all open windows/processes.
> 
> I have been using this for ages. On a Mac.
> I was just working with windows version of a 4D app that uses this 
> window (same purpose) and it looks like crap because even though there 
> is *supposed* to be text in the title area there is nothing, and the 
> title area on windows is huuuge
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Re: Window type -724 (more info)

2019-06-19 Thread Narinder Chandi via 4D_Tech
I may be mistaken but I have a feeling that these kind of "magic" window types 
(for want of a better description) are a relic of the ancient history of the 
Mac (we are talking as far back Mac OS OS 7 and 8) and there availability in 4D 
is an un-documented feature and therefore wholly unsupported.

I think it goes without saying that the only window types you should consider 
will work tomorrow as they do today are those as defined by the 4D window 
constants. 

Regards,
 
Narinder Chandi,
ToolBox Systems Ltd.
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Subject: Re: Window type -724 (more info)

Chip,

How did you find this window type?  I accidentally created a window in 4D 
v15 that has a thin vertical window title with small type on the left side: 
-1*(Palette window+Has zoom box).  However, in v17 the title looks the same but 
is on top.
Is there a list that is not in the Docs?

Thanks,

Keith - CDI

> On Jun 19, 2019, at 1:18 PM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> Description of the window that is opened with -724
> - It has ONLY a close button
> - it is indeed a floating window
> - it is resizable
> - it has/accepts a window title
> - on switching away from 4D the window disappears, only to show up at 
> the same location when returning to 4D
> - the window title area appears narrower the a standard type 8 window
> Thanks again
> Chip
> 
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:13:56 -0400, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech wrote:
>> How does this value come about?
>> I know the '-' makes it a floating window
>> but how is the value 724 generated?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Chip



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Re: Window type -724 (more info)

2019-06-19 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
I have no idea!  :)

this is a floating window I use for window management.
In my system it contains a listbox with all open windows/processes.

I have been using this for ages. On a Mac.
I was just working with windows version of a 4D app that uses this 
window (same purpose) and it looks like crap because even though there 
is *supposed* to be text in the title area there is nothing, and the 
title area on windows is huuuge (said like our idiot in chief).

I was trying to figure out how I created the window type so I could try 
to modify it for windows to look better.

(to Keith directly - I attached a screen capture of the window)
Chip

On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:08:30 -0500, Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech wrote:
> 
> 
> How did you find this window type?  I accidentally created a window 
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Re: Window type -724 (more info)

2019-06-19 Thread Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech
Chip,

How did you find this window type?  I accidentally created a window in 4D v15 
that has a thin vertical window title with small type on the left side: 
-1*(Palette window+Has zoom box).  However, in v17 the title looks the same but 
is on top.
Is there a list that is not in the Docs?

Thanks,

Keith - CDI

> On Jun 19, 2019, at 1:18 PM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Description of the window that is opened with -724
> - It has ONLY a close button
> - it is indeed a floating window
> - it is resizable
> - it has/accepts a window title
> - on switching away from 4D the window disappears, only to show up at 
> the same location when returning to 4D
> - the window title area appears narrower the a standard type 8 window
> Thanks again
> Chip
> 
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:13:56 -0400, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech wrote:
>> How does this value come about?
>> I know the '-' makes it a floating window
>> but how is the value 724 generated?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Chip
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>> Alcohol is for drinkin'
>> Nitromethane is for racing 
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Re: Window type -724 (more info)

2019-06-19 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Description of the window that is opened with -724
- It has ONLY a close button
- it is indeed a floating window
- it is resizable
- it has/accepts a window title
- on switching away from 4D the window disappears, only to show up at 
the same location when returning to 4D
- the window title area appears narrower the a standard type 8 window
Thanks again
Chip

On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:13:56 -0400, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech wrote:
> How does this value come about?
> I know the '-' makes it a floating window
> but how is the value 724 generated?
> 
> Thanks
> Chip
> ---
> Gas is for washing parts
> Alcohol is for drinkin'
> Nitromethane is for racing 
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