[9fans] not enough memory with fossil+venti standard setup
Hello! after a long term my interest in Plan9 received new input by Tim Newsham's ninefs. My current employee forces me to use computing infrastructure based on Microsoft Operating systems. With ninefs i hope to be able to use a fossil+venti fileserver instead of our ubiquitous project "SHARE". To start playing around, i got myself an obsoleted Dell Latitude, Model CPt, about eight years old by now, and downloaded the current Plan9 installation CD. First problem: the bootloader starts, scans the IDE-Controller but does not find the CD-ROM neither the harddisk. So i take the Plan9 CD home, and start over with my old Compaq Armada 1700, probably two years older then the Dell, it has even a floppy drive! Hooray - the Armada boots the installation system and i can proceed with a default fossil+venti installation. After reboot: Second problem: "out of physical memory; no swap configured" After confirming the "root is from" prompt and specifying user "glenda" Plan9 tries to start venti, where it runs out of memory. There is a line before the "root is from" line upon boot, it says: 160M memory: 66M kernel data, 93M user, 368M swap Three days later (well, i don't have much time for playing around each day) i finally found out about venti.conf's mem, bcmem and icmem and set ridiculously small values for them, which makes my future file server finally start up. I did not experience this behaviour two years ago. Why does current venti use memory settings which are incompatible with available physical memory? Why does Plan9 say that there is "no swap configured"? Ok, so the disk with the readily installed Plan9 OS was returned to the Dell Latitude. By the way, venti's default memory settings don't work here either with: 256M memory: 105M kernel data, 151M user, 576M swap Third problem: no ethernet I guess this is because the TI PCI1220/1225 is not supported. Find below the pci devices as given from Linux' lspci output Regards, Jorge-León Dell Latitude CPt: Host/PCI bridge:Intel 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX IDE:Intel 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1225 (rev 01) Ethernet (PCMCIA Card): Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) Compaq Armada 1700: Host/PCI bridge:Intel 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX IDE:Intel 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1220 (rev 02) Ethernet (PCMCIA Card): Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
Re: [9fans] not enough memory with fossil+venti standard setup
It may be of interes, I run plan9 in an almost pure windows shop, I have written aux/cifs a windows file server protocl client which allows me to mount DFS shares on our company server. I also have a couple of tools which allow me to connect to a windows PC running a service I have written, this will one day mutate into a full cpu(1) server but at present uses its own protocol. This also integrates with cifs quite well so I can type dos(1) and open a cmd.exe in the same directory on the file server as I was in on plan9, and I can also plumb files in cmd.exe and have them open in sam. This works well for me as most of the tools I need on windows are command line based, for the few gui ones I need I vnc onto a machine. cifs is in the contrib package steve/cifs the dos(1) dosd(1) and listen(1) for windows are not reliably published (and not as well documented), but I can make them available if you are interested. -Steve
Re: [9fans] vmware fusion 3.0.1 and VESA
hangs the virtual machine. The biggest screen size I can get to, without VESA, is monitor=multisync135 vgasize=1024x768x32 and anything bigger causes kernel panic. See http://9fans.net/archive/2009/08/627 What monitor/vgasize combination works for you, preferably bigger one than above? I have used 1280x1024 and 1680x1050 a lot. You may have to add lines to your vga db. Tim Newsham | www.thenewsh.com/~newsham | thenewsh.blogspot.com
Re: [9fans] not enough memory with fossil+venti standard setup
yes, the venti thing was just weird, I installed Plan 9 last week or so in vmware and venti was using 700MB ram, the vm had only 512MB... what's with venti? -- Federico G. Benavento
Re: [9fans] not enough memory with fossil+venti standard setup
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Federico G. Benavento wrote: > yes, the venti thing was just weird, I installed > Plan 9 last week or so in vmware and venti > was using 700MB ram, the vm had only 512MB... > > what's with venti? you really need to tell venti something about how much memory to use, or it will go a bit crazy on you, chewing up your machine and memory too. I think there's a fix in patch queue, not sure. ron
[9fans] Acme permission problems
Newly started experimenting with this, so far, amazing and relativly fresh carpal syndrome OS i hit a snag! Apparently when you start a 9term in Acme the permission is diffrent from when you start a 9term from the erhm... is it still called a desktop? Resulting in permission problems when i try to start Abaco from a 9term in Acme, apparently i no longer have permission to even have think about /dev/draw/new anymore. Well apparently the /dev/mindcontrol filesystem isnt activated anymore so now i take my chance to ask: Will anyone give a nudge to a confused unsignificant little dot in this weird universe? Can't find anything on permission handling and Acme... Reading eyes are red... Very red... 'Jumziey' --- Essentially starting Abaco in acme gives: Abaco: Can't open display: initdisplay: /dev/draw/new: '/dev/draw/new': permisson denied But i don't get it when i start it from a normal 9term ---
[9fans] Coraid funded
I just want to share with the list that we have announced that Coraid, the largest distributor of Plan 9 systems in the world, has accepted some serious venture funding. See the link below for a short interview with our new CEO. Kevin and I hit it off right away. Our use of Plan 9 was fully blessed by one of our advisors. As we grow we will continue to do a lot to help the Plan 9 community, not to mention revolutionize storage area networking. http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2010/01/25/startup-with-all-star-backers-aims-to-disrupt-storage-market/ Brantley Coile Oh, and by the way, we need more people. Send resumes please. Any of you google guys board with a huge company yet? :)
Re: [9fans] Coraid funded
Oh, and by the way, we need more people. Send resumes please. Any of you google guys board with a huge company yet? :) Congratulations! I'm somewhat interested in what you guys are doing, but also on the opposite side of the country and unable to relocate. Do you guys ever farm out work or hire off-site? I've also been busy working on my own thing using 9p to allow sharing of resources between some of the commodity operating systems. For proof-of-concept I've done audio sharing between windows, android and linux. It's all prototype stuff at the moment but I'm working on putting some polish on it. I'm more of a technical person than a business person and have been trying to learn more about next steps. If you have any great advice for tech people working on a software startup, I'd love to hear some. Tim Newsham | www.thenewsh.com/~newsham | thenewsh.blogspot.com
Re: [9fans] Coraid funded
> Oh, and by the way, we need more people. Send resumes please. Any of you > google guys board with a huge company yet? :) email hir...@coraid.com - erik
Re: [9fans] Acme permission problems
> Essentially starting Abaco in acme gives: > > Abaco: Can't open display: initdisplay: /dev/draw/new: '/dev/draw/new': > permisson denied > > But i don't get it when i start it from a normal 9term unfortuantely, you can't do that. you can start abaco in a new window, however. - erik
Re: [9fans] Coraid funded
Congrats Brantley - this is great news! -Eric Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Brantley Coile wrote: I just want to share with the list that we have announced that Coraid, the largest distributor of Plan 9 systems in the world, has accepted some serious venture funding. See the link below for a short interview with our new CEO. Kevin and I hit it off right away. Our use of Plan 9 was fully blessed by one of our advisors. As we grow we will continue to do a lot to help the Plan 9 community, not to mention revolutionize storage area networking. http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2010/01/25/startup-with-all-star-backers-aims-to-disrupt-storage-market/ Brantley Coile Oh, and by the way, we need more people. Send resumes please. Any of you google guys board with a huge company yet? :)
Re: [9fans] Coraid funded
Wow, that is really awesome. Congrats, indeed! D On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Brantley Coile wrote: > I just want to share with the list that we have announced that Coraid, the > largest distributor of Plan 9 systems in the world, has accepted some > serious venture funding. See the link below for a short interview with our > new CEO. Kevin and I hit it off right away. Our use of Plan 9 was fully > blessed by one of our advisors. As we grow we will continue to do a lot to > help the Plan 9 community, not to mention revolutionize storage area > networking. > > > http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2010/01/25/startup-with-all-star-backers-aims-to-disrupt-storage-market/ > > Brantley Coile > > Oh, and by the way, we need more people. Send resumes please. Any of you > google guys board with a huge company yet? :) > > >
Re: [9fans] Coraid funded
Congratulations on this exciting news! -- A 9fan grateful for the public benefit already generated from Coraid's technology and code.
Re: [9fans] Coraid funded
oops, that wasnt supposed to go to 9fans.. sorry guys. On Sat, 30 Jan 2010, Tim Newsham wrote: Oh, and by the way, we need more people. Send resumes please. Any of you google guys board with a huge company yet? :) Congratulations! I'm somewhat interested in what you guys are doing, Tim Newsham | www.thenewsh.com/~newsham | thenewsh.blogspot.com
[9fans] entire cache is busy, 999 dirty
Hello 9fans, Latterly my file server speaks annoying kernel message such as: entire cache is busy, 999 dirty -- waking flush thread cache is okay again entire cache is busy, 999 dirty -- waking flush thread cache is okay again ... My question is: (a) where these messages come from? venti? (b) what is the problem? (c) how to fix? My plan9 partitions are: hera% disk/prep -p /dev/sdC0/plan9 part 9fat 63 41027 part fossil 41027 21021587 part arenas 21021587 104943827 part isect0 104943827 109139939 part isect1 109139939 113336051 part nvram 113336051 113336052 part cache 113336052 115434108 part swap 115434108 117532164 part bloom 117532164 117597700 part vac 152100272 152100273 part fs 152100273 160826715 hera% # don't mined "vac", that is my own use. Kenji Arisawa
Re: [9fans] Coraid funded
To the Coraid team: Congrats on your recent funding - your efforts to improve and enhance Plan 9 are obvious throughout the community. Cheers, Matt
[9fans] 'win' execution behaviour in acme
Executing this block of text: win -e cmd1 args ... win -e cmd2 args ... win -e cmd3 args ... win -e cmd4 args ... opens up *one* acme window with the first of the `win' commands. Once you `Del' that win, the second one appears, and so forth. But the behaviour I would expect is that I get four separate `win' windows, each running the separate commands. I'm trying to automate the opening of the `win' windows through a separate script, so it would be nice to know whether there is some way to achieve what I'd expect. Thanks, ak
Re: [9fans] 'win' execution behaviour in acme
Put an '&' on the end of each line?
Re: [9fans] 'win' execution behaviour in acme
OK, yeah. I lost myself in the complexities of empty-headed programming. Thanks much, ak On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Tony Lainson wrote: > Put an '&' on the end of each line? > >
