[9fans] cannot find sources - have I missed somthing?
Trying to do a pull today for the first time in ages and dns doesn't seem to find sources.cs.bell-labs.com any more. with the GPLing of plan9 as the labs plan9 distribution moved to google code or sourceforge, and I missed the message? -Steve
Re: [9fans] cannot find sources - have I missed somthing?
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:13:08AM +, Steve Simon wrote: Trying to do a pull today for the first time in ages and dns doesn't seem to find sources.cs.bell-labs.com any more. I still have: Non-authoritative answer: Name: sources.cs.bell-labs.com Address: 67.215.66.132 -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.renaissance-francaise.fr/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C
Re: [9fans] cannot find sources - have I missed somthing?
On Mon Feb 24 05:17:33 EST 2014, st...@quintile.net wrote: Trying to do a pull today for the first time in ages and dns doesn't seem to find sources.cs.bell-labs.com any more. the nameservers (which have sequential ip addresses) are simply not on the net right now. i imagine some sort of network issue. - erik
[9fans] recent Bell .iso images don't boot in QEMU
Hey gang, As per the subject, I tried to start playing with plan 9, but kept running into this error: dosinit: can't open #S/sdC0/9fat dosinit #S/sdC0/9fat failed and gives me a `Boot from:` prompt (which I have no idea what to do with) My boot command was `kvm -cdrom plan9.iso -boot d -hdc Plan9.qcow2.img`. This is with QEMU emulator version 1.7.0 (Debian 1.7.0+dfsg-3), Copyright (c) 2003-2008 Fabrice Bellard Linux HbIOTOH 3.12-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.12.9-1 (2014-02-01) x86_64 GNU/Linux mischief on IRC suggested that I report this finding to the list. I also saw the same error message trying to boot 9legacy.iso (but perhaps that factoid should go to another list? forgive my ignorance). (I was finally able to get to Rio after getting a 9front.iso) best, -- _ / \ A* \^ - ,./ _.`\\ / \ / ,--.S\/ \ / `~,_ \\ __o ? _ \,_ /:\ --(_)/-(_).../ | \ --...J Paul Ivanov http://pirsquared.org
Re: [9fans] recent Bell .iso images don't boot in QEMU
dosinit: can't open #S/sdC0/9fat dosinit #S/sdC0/9fat failed This is a known issue in QEMU. It was introduced in QEMU 1.6.0 (August 2013). QEMU = 1.5.3 are not affected. I've submitted a patch in December: http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-trivial/2013-12/msg00114.html I believe the patch has been merged in the main repository, so the current version from the Git repository should work. Hopefully, the fix will be available as part of QEMU 1.7.1. -- David du Colombier
Re: [9fans] recent Bell .iso images don't boot in QEMU
I ran into the same error on an OpenBSD machine (qemu version 1.7.0), and obviously that error is a known problem. However, I was able to boot and install the plan9.iso after moving the cdrom to the slave of the disk's ide. For me, that looked like: qemu-system-x86_64 \ -drive file=9/Plan9.qcow2.img,if=ide,index=0,media=disk \ -drive file=9/plan9.iso,if=ide,index=1,media=cdrom -boot d Hope that helps Paul Ivanov p...@berkeley.edu schrieb am Mon, 24. Feb 10:09: Hey gang, As per the subject, I tried to start playing with plan 9, but kept running into this error: dosinit: can't open #S/sdC0/9fat dosinit #S/sdC0/9fat failed and gives me a `Boot from:` prompt (which I have no idea what to do with) My boot command was `kvm -cdrom plan9.iso -boot d -hdc Plan9.qcow2.img`. This is with QEMU emulator version 1.7.0 (Debian 1.7.0+dfsg-3), Copyright (c) 2003-2008 Fabrice Bellard Linux HbIOTOH 3.12-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.12.9-1 (2014-02-01) x86_64 GNU/Linux mischief on IRC suggested that I report this finding to the list. I also saw the same error message trying to boot 9legacy.iso (but perhaps that factoid should go to another list? forgive my ignorance). (I was finally able to get to Rio after getting a 9front.iso) best,
[9fans] Plan 9 and friends in GSoC!
Good news: the list or organizations for this year's Google Summer of Code came out a bit under an hour ago, and we've been accepted! Much thanks to everyone who's helped out, particularly those of you who worked on our ideas page. We can certainly always use more work on the wiki, but if you'd like to participate more fully, please join the group we've set up for the process: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/plan9-gsoc This is the same group as for the last several years, so if you were signed up then, you're likely still on it. If you're considering being a mentor (or backup mentor) this summer, please go sign up in Melange and ask to join our project (register yourself, then Start a Connection). http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2014 This, unfortunately, needs to be re-done each year, so even if you've been a mentor in the past, please head over. I'll send reminders about important looming deadlines everywhere, but most detailed discussion will be on that plan9-gsoc group. Head there to follow along. Anthony signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: [9fans] NDB Error
Hello 9fans, I get the error as seen in the screenshot - I highly suspect this is because the internet connection I'm using at present is pretty dodgy, but I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong about this. I am using DCHP for the bridging on my Mac. I will try to reinstall when I'm at uni later today. Many thanks! as the error message describes, your new fs is missing /lib. perhaps that is because it ndb was invoked at the wrong point. - erik
Re: [9fans] NDB Error
to avoid confusion: it is a 9front install On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello 9fans, I get the error as seen in the screenshot - I highly suspect this is because the internet connection I'm using at present is pretty dodgy, but I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong about this. I am using DCHP for the bridging on my Mac. I will try to reinstall when I'm at uni later today. Many thanks! Shane.
Re: [9fans] NDB Error
Certainly not a network error. As Erik pointed out, you don't have that directoriy. My guess is that some steps weren't done in the right order. Try doing mountfs again. 2014-02-24 22:37 GMT+01:00 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: Hello 9fans, I get the error as seen in the screenshot - I highly suspect this is because the internet connection I'm using at present is pretty dodgy, but I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong about this. I am using DCHP for the bridging on my Mac. I will try to reinstall when I'm at uni later today. Many thanks! as the error message describes, your new fs is missing /lib. perhaps that is because it ndb was invoked at the wrong point. - erik
[9fans] Various distributions
Sorry for this extremely basic question but I'm a bit confused about the various plan9 distributions. As I understand it, 9front is a fork of the original plan 9 from Bell Labs and 9atom consists of enhancements to plan9. All three seem to be under development, but: Are changes being pulled from one to the other, or are they slowly diverging? And, does the recent announcement regarding GPLv2 have any bearing on the situation? Thanks for any comments, Pete
Re: [9fans] NDB Error
or copydist maybe because i don't see that among the done tasks 2014-02-24 22:40 GMT+01:00 Iruatã Souza iru.mu...@gmail.com: to avoid confusion: it is a 9front install On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello 9fans, I get the error as seen in the screenshot - I highly suspect this is because the internet connection I'm using at present is pretty dodgy, but I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong about this. I am using DCHP for the bridging on my Mac. I will try to reinstall when I'm at uni later today. Many thanks! Shane.
Re: [9fans] Various distributions
Quoting Peter Hull peterhul...@gmail.com: Sorry for this extremely basic question but I'm a bit confused about the various plan9 distributions. As I understand it, 9front is a fork of the original plan 9 from Bell Labs and 9atom consists of enhancements to plan9. All three seem to be under development, but: Are changes being pulled from one to the other, or are they slowly diverging? And, does the recent announcement regarding GPLv2 have any bearing on the situation? Thanks for any comments, Pete There's not a formal treaty signed amongst the nation-states. They're all open source and they're all free to pull code from one another. They are each the products of their creators and to my knowledge there is no guiding manifesto for any of them. khm
Re: [9fans] Various distributions
This is all my read on the situation only. I use 9atom and track the mainline closely, but only casually track 9front. The mainline Plan 9 distribution from Bell Labs is managed very conservatively, from an external point of view. Both 9atom and, later, 9front were started because that didn't work for the folks who created those distributions, in different ways. It may be fair to say both started as a way to get improved hardware support into a publicly-accessible distribution quickly, although there have since been many other changes in each system. 9atom often pulls in changes from 9front and the mainline. I believe 9front watches the other two, as well (although I'm not sure how closely). As far as I'm aware, the mainline only considers changes in the others if they're explicitly submitted as patches. 9atom is, procedurally, very similar to mainline: you submit changes via patches, sources and everything else is available via 9p, and so on. It also puts similar weight on compatibility and similar concerns. 9front is a more radical departure for Plan 9 (in some ways making it more recognizable for those coming from elsewhere in the Open Source world), with a Mercurial repository and a conventional issue tracker and the like. It is also has a bit more of an experimental character regarding changes to the system. The GPL thing has no bearing on any of these distributions. Anthony signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: [9fans] Various distributions
9atom is, procedurally, very similar to mainline: you submit changes via patches, sources and everything else is available via 9p, and so on. It also puts similar weight on compatibility and similar concerns. 9front is a more radical departure for contributions will be welcomed to the greatest extent possible. the bias is to put changes in. if there are style issues a little too large to ignore, or bugs, then the author may be asked to correct these and resubmit. at least that's the ideal. :-) there are a few differences i'd like to mention. 1. all changes are done via patches. the patch list is sources at 9atom dot org. send email to sources dash owner at 9atom dot org to subscribe, or send me email directly. 2. anyone with an account has the ability to comment on outstanding patches with apatch/note. send me email if you'd like an account. i think more discussion around patches is better. cheers - erik
Re: [9fans] NDB Error
Ok, I'd copied the dist over, and still I get the same error. Let me try again. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Bence Fábián beg...@gmail.com wrote: or copydist maybe because i don't see that among the done tasks 2014-02-24 22:40 GMT+01:00 Iruatã Souza iru.mu...@gmail.com: to avoid confusion: it is a 9front install On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello 9fans, I get the error as seen in the screenshot - I highly suspect this is because the internet connection I'm using at present is pretty dodgy, but I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong about this. I am using DCHP for the bridging on my Mac. I will try to reinstall when I'm at uni later today. Many thanks! Shane.
Re: [9fans] NDB Error
Ok, got it working now - was just pinging google.com.au. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.comwrote: Ok, I'd copied the dist over, and still I get the same error. Let me try again. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Bence Fábián beg...@gmail.com wrote: or copydist maybe because i don't see that among the done tasks 2014-02-24 22:40 GMT+01:00 Iruatã Souza iru.mu...@gmail.com: to avoid confusion: it is a 9front install On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello 9fans, I get the error as seen in the screenshot - I highly suspect this is because the internet connection I'm using at present is pretty dodgy, but I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong about this. I am using DCHP for the bridging on my Mac. I will try to reinstall when I'm at uni later today. Many thanks! Shane.
