Re: [9fans] calm SFX power supply?

[kokamoto]

Thanks Steve.

> When I built my home server I tried hard to make it low power and quiet.

Indeed...
Any low power machine must be considered 
as cheap one, I suppose.

> I also replaced the case fan and cpu fan with Fractal Design Silent fans. 

I'll try silent 8cm fan.
However it will rotate in full power anytime.☺

Kenji

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[dante]

Wow, amazing work :-)!!

Cheers,
Dante

On 27.08.2014 21:16, David L. Craig wrote:

This is the publication I wished I had had several
months ago, so I decided to write it.  With hundreds
of screen shots and a few choice scripts (the main one
based on maht's make_cpuauth contribution to Plan 9),
it walks a UNIX sysadmin of modest experience through
installing Debian Sid onto an x86_64 box capable of
full-virtualization and then installing a virtual Bell
Labs Plan 9 computer therein and transforming it from
a stand-alone non-networked terminal configuration
into an Internet-capable cpu/auth server.

This alpha version has all the information needed to
do this--only the Overview section remains to be
written.  I would like to get other folks' evaluations
of the work so it can be improved.  It is released
under Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike and GPL2.

I really hope it is helpful to a lot of people as time
goes by.

http://dlc.casita.net/~dlc/vp9cb/index.html
--

May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!

Dave_Craig__
"So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
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Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[dante]

Hi David,

A small review note: you can see the available devices in Plan9 with 
"cat /dev/devices" (or /dev/device or so).

This might be needed in the explanation around intro(3).

Kind Regards,
Dante


On 27.08.2014 21:16, David L. Craig wrote:

This is the publication I wished I had had several
months ago, so I decided to write it.  With hundreds
of screen shots and a few choice scripts (the main one
based on maht's make_cpuauth contribution to Plan 9),
it walks a UNIX sysadmin of modest experience through
installing Debian Sid onto an x86_64 box capable of
full-virtualization and then installing a virtual Bell
Labs Plan 9 computer therein and transforming it from
a stand-alone non-networked terminal configuration
into an Internet-capable cpu/auth server.

This alpha version has all the information needed to
do this--only the Overview section remains to be
written.  I would like to get other folks' evaluations
of the work so it can be improved.  It is released
under Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike and GPL2.

I really hope it is helpful to a lot of people as time
goes by.

http://dlc.casita.net/~dlc/vp9cb/index.html
--

May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!

Dave_Craig__
"So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
 Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe."
__--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg_

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[lucio]

> "cat /dev/devices" (or /dev/device or so).

/dev/drivers

Lucio.

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[Peter Hull]

On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:16 PM, David L. Craig  wrote:
> I really hope it is helpful to a lot of people as time
> goes by.
Hi David,
This is going to be a tremendously useful resource! I've not read it
all yet but:
1. Is there a reason for using Debian sid instead of current stable?
2. Would it be possible to make the section titles/steps stand out a
bit more from the rest of the text; it would help when scrolling up
and down?

Thanks,
pete

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[David L. Craig]

On 14Aug28:1101+0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:

> Dante wrote:

> > "cat /dev/devices" (or /dev/device or so).
> 
> /dev/drivers
> 
> Lucio.
> 

Thanks, guys!  These are exactly the kinds of comments
this work needs--you will be credited.

I've added an Errata heading to index.html but can't
note this in it for a couple hours.
Maybe I'll point folks to this list therein for now.
-- 

May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!

Dave_Craig__
"So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
 Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe."
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Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[David L. Craig]

On 14Aug28:1100+0100, Peter Hull wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:16 PM, David L. Craig  wrote:

> > I really hope it is helpful to a lot of people as time
> > goes by.

> Hi David,
> This is going to be a tremendously useful resource! I've not read it
> all yet but:
> 1. Is there a reason for using Debian sid instead of current stable?
> 2. Would it be possible to make the section titles/steps stand out a
> bit more from the rest of the text; it would help when scrolling up
> and down?
> 
> Thanks,
> pete

1. Explained at the beginning of Section 1, but the short answer
is I tried stable first unsuccessfully (it is documented) and if
you can get that working, that will become another recipe and
you'll get the credit.

2.  Would having the headers appear like the links be sufficient?
Whatever, I'll make this a priority, probably this afternoon.

Thanks for the feedback!
-- 

May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!

Dave_Craig__
"So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
 Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe."
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Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[Peter Hull]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:55 PM, David L. Craig  wrote:
> On 14Aug28:1100+0100, Peter Hull wrote:
> 1. Explained at the beginning of Section 1,
I beg your pardon, I missed that.
>
> 2.  Would having the headers appear like the links be sufficient?
> Whatever, I'll make this a priority, probably this afternoon.
Yes, I think so.

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[Joseph Stewart]

I love the work David. Can I ask a naggy thing though... the
background/forground colors make it very hard to read for very long...
could you change them to "boring old" black-on-white? (or should I just
make a local edit with my fuddy-duddy preferences?)

Thanks again for the time and detail you've put into this!

-joe


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:55 AM, David L. Craig  wrote:

> On 14Aug28:1100+0100, Peter Hull wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:16 PM, David L. Craig 
> wrote:
>
> > > I really hope it is helpful to a lot of people as time
> > > goes by.
>
> > Hi David,
> > This is going to be a tremendously useful resource! I've not read it
> > all yet but:
> > 1. Is there a reason for using Debian sid instead of current stable?
> > 2. Would it be possible to make the section titles/steps stand out a
> > bit more from the rest of the text; it would help when scrolling up
> > and down?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > pete
>
> 1. Explained at the beginning of Section 1, but the short answer
> is I tried stable first unsuccessfully (it is documented) and if
> you can get that working, that will become another recipe and
> you'll get the credit.
>
> 2.  Would having the headers appear like the links be sufficient?
> Whatever, I'll make this a priority, probably this afternoon.
>
> Thanks for the feedback!
> --
> 
> May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!
>
> Dave_Craig__
> "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
>  You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
>  Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe."
> __--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg_
>

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[David L. Craig]

On 14Aug28:0907-0400, Joseph Stewart wrote:

> I love the work David. Can I ask a naggy thing though... the
> background/forground colors make it very hard to read for very long...
> could you change them to "boring old" black-on-white? (or should I just
> make a local edit with my fuddy-duddy preferences?)
> 
> Thanks again for the time and detail you've put into this!

Well, black on white for a long time is hard on my ancient
eyeballs, and I've been looking at this a lot! ;-)

I think there is a place in the Overview for discussing
such tweaks to vp9cb.css, at the very least.  I really
had no idea how this was going to be received by the
community.  If a lot of people think CSS-challenged newbies
would have a better experience with a default black-on-white
presentation, I'll go with that.
-- 

May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!

Dave_Craig__
"So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
 Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe."
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Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[Joseph Stewart]

David,

That's awesome... please take this as a friendly request, not a criticism.
If you didn't make one single change, I REALLY appreciate the work you've
put into this... and to recant the old expression: "everyone's a critic" (
http://www.thelonelyisland.com/video/everyones-a-critic).

-joe


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:25 AM, David L. Craig  wrote:

> On 14Aug28:0907-0400, Joseph Stewart wrote:
>
> > I love the work David. Can I ask a naggy thing though... the
> > background/forground colors make it very hard to read for very long...
> > could you change them to "boring old" black-on-white? (or should I just
> > make a local edit with my fuddy-duddy preferences?)
> >
> > Thanks again for the time and detail you've put into this!
>
> Well, black on white for a long time is hard on my ancient
> eyeballs, and I've been looking at this a lot! ;-)
>
> I think there is a place in the Overview for discussing
> such tweaks to vp9cb.css, at the very least.  I really
> had no idea how this was going to be received by the
> community.  If a lot of people think CSS-challenged newbies
> would have a better experience with a default black-on-white
> presentation, I'll go with that.
> --
> 
> May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!
>
> Dave_Craig__
> "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
>  You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
>  Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe."
> __--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg_
>

[9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[trebol]

Hello David.

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[David L. Craig]

On 14Aug28:1402+0100, Peter Hull wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:55 PM, David L. Craig  wrote:

> > 2.  Would having the headers appear like the links be sufficient?
> > Whatever, I'll make this a priority, probably this afternoon.

> Yes, I think so.

I've updated the vp9cb.css and the tar to use maximum white
for the headers.  Let me know if they're too bright.
-- 

May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!

Dave_Craig__
"So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
 Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe."
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Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[Peter Hull]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM, David L. Craig  wrote:
> I've updated the vp9cb.css and the tar to use maximum white
> for the headers.  Let me know if they're too bright.
Well, I like it.
Thanks,
Pete

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[David L. Craig]

I found a great source of UTF-8 expertise that showed
me how to resolve the garbled UTF-8 characters:

http://htmlpurifier.org/docs/enduser-utf8.html

All I had to do was rename the charset=utf-8 file,
04_P9Server.html to
04_P9Server.utf8.html
and most webservers configured to say their content
is something like ISO-8859-1 to not do that for
files so named.

The Revisions section was expanded due to the lack
of transparency to the tar and the tar was updated.
-- 

May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!

Dave_Craig__
"So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
 Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe."
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Re: [9fans] calm SFX power supply?

[Nicolas Bercher]

On 28/08/2014 10:20, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:

I'll try silent 8cm fan.
However it will rotate in full power anytime.☺


You can try to use a big 12v fan powered only using the 5v line.
If it has enough power to start, it should be quite silent and produce
a fair air flow compared to small and noisy fans powered using 12v.

Nicolas

Re: [9fans] calm SFX power supply?

[Lyndon Nerenberg]

On Aug 28, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Nicolas Bercher  wrote:

> You can try to use a big 12v fan powered only using the 5v line.
> If it has enough power to start, it should be quite silent and produce
> a fair air flow compared to small and noisy fans powered using 12v.

You can also poke around ebay looking for 12VDC->{5,6}VDC switching power 
supplies.  I have a couple of those I use to power USB hubs and some 6V gear 
(clock radios and such) from the boat's 12VDC supply.  It's all gear out of 
China/Hong Kong/ Singapore; the quality seems to be reasonable, and the prices 
and shipping times are good (< 2 weeks to Canada).  Email me if you want 
details about the exact gear I bought.

--lyndon



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Re: [9fans] calm SFX power supply?

[kokamoto]

Thanks both of Nicolas and lyndon.
I didn't think that's possibility.

My mini-ITX box is very cool, when I touch the top,
I feel cold!, even at 33 degree C room temperature.
Therefore I can do the voltage down for this power
supply.

Kenji

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[David L. Craig]

On 14Aug28:0850-0400, David L. Craig wrote:
> On 14Aug28:1101+0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> 
> > Dante wrote:
> 
> > > "cat /dev/devices" (or /dev/device or so).
> > 
> > /dev/drivers
> > 
> > Lucio.
> > 

I just updated the pages and the tar with a restructuring
of the table and its introductory paragraph--let me know
if it has any problems, if you can.

I had a problem with a regression that I've been clearing
up for the past half hour, so if you've been trying to
use the web site, the files are stable once again--sorry
for the inconvience and I think I've figured out what
happended so it shouldn't manifest again.  You may need
forcibly refresh pages if this paragraph applies to you.
-- 

May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!

Dave_Craig__
"So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
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Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[David L. Craig]

I revised the index.html to remove the second Errata item
about the mangled UTF-8 characters, and moved the information
about the tarball before the Errata header.  The tarball has
been updated with that, and I think I'm done for this day.
-- 

May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!

Dave_Craig__
"So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
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Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[Scott Elcomb]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:25 AM, David L. Craig  wrote:
> If a lot of people think CSS-challenged newbies
> would have a better experience with a default black-on-white
> presentation, I'll go with that.

Thanks for writing this up; very much looking forward to working through it. =)

I found the colours a bit difficult as well so I've mirrored the
package in black-on-white at
.

Planning to run it through  to
convert to pdf & epub when time permits.

Best,
-- 
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