Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Skip Tavakkolian]

> plan 9 as more than a masturbatory aid.

put up or shut up:

% for (i in (rpi2 snssrv bootes mikro)) {
cpu -h $i -c 'uptime && cat ''#''P/cputype'
}
rpi2 up 121 days, 14:17:03
ARM 1176JZF-S 700
snssrv up 88 days, 04:42:19
P6 1694
bootes up 162 days, 09:42:41
Atom 1801
mikro up 0 days, 00:09:04
MIPS 24k 680

and also:

ec2  1561080:38   0:07   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561130:20   0:03   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561260:23   0:04   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561270:27   0:04   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561280:13   0:02   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561290:20   0:04   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561300:00   0:00   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561310:24   0:04   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561320:21   0:04   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561360:34   0:04   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561370:39   0:10   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561380:00   0:00   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561420:02   0:00   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561430:00   0:00   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  1561440:00   0:00   795188K Semacqui 9pcloud
ec2  4184170:00   0:00   92K Exec grep 9pcloud
cpu% uptime
i-b363c1b9 up 224 days, 05:45:56

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Kurt H Maier]

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:51:39AM +, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> some here still prefer hammer/chisel/stone to new-fangled
> quill/ink/parchment

Before I die, I'll figure out why it offends some of you so much that a
few of us use plan 9 as more than a masturbatory aid.  Meanwhile, I
don't think it's a wildly unreasonable request that a five-sentence text
post be reproduced within the medium used to discuss it.

But I know, I know, pasting is hard.  I apologize on hiro's behalf for
this gross intrusion on your freedom.

To Mr. McGee:  just go ahead and put your output wherever.  Those of us
who are interested in the content are accustomed to adapting to other
people's preferred workflows.

The rest of list will continue shitposting about their utopian
javascript-based society regardless.  Until recently it was the Cult of
Mac; I look forward to being scoffed at from within a VR headset soon.

khm

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Winston Kodogo]

And, on a related note:

https://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/04/why-i-use-safari-instead-of-firefox/

On 31 August 2016 at 14:08, Winston Kodogo  wrote:

> Yeah, but me, I prefer banging my head repeatedly against a brick wall
> while chewing broken glass to using this troff thing. In this case, the
> new-fangled stuff is just better, at least for normal people who just want
> to get stuff done.
>
> On 31 August 2016 at 12:51, Skip Tavakkolian 
> wrote:
>
>> some here still prefer hammer/chisel/stone to new-fangled
>> quill/ink/parchment
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:22 PM Chris McGee 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sure,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for plan9 user/enthusiast appropriate medium. Any
>>> suggestions?
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> > On Aug 30, 2016, at 6:18 PM, Eduardo Alvarez 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Are you keeping your progess public? It would be very educational to
>>> read.
>>> >
>>> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Chris McGee 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> I am about a quarter of the way to a similar setup.
>>> >>
>>> >> My goal is to have a specialty for each of the Pi's (sensors,
>>> controller,
>>> >> terminal, router) without preventing them from doing general tasks.
>>> I'm
>>> >> hoping to eventually connect up some Pi zeros as leaf nodes for just
>>> >> sensor/control and plumb through 9P via UART pins.
>>> >>
>>> >> Chris
>>> >>
>>> >> On Aug 30, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <
>>> skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> It is straightforward and easy:
>>> >>
>>> >> https://plus.google.com/+SkipTavakkolian/posts/Fb846KhBMM6
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:54 AM Eduardo Alvarez <
>>> astrochelon...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I mostly lurk around here, as I'm greener than green when it comes to
>>> >>> plan 9. At some point in time, a friend and I were discussing setting
>>> >>> up a small-sized computing cluster for small scale distributed
>>> >>> computations. I was keen on the idea of using inexpensive hardware
>>> (we
>>> >>> even joked about using a truckloads of Raspberry Pis), and plan 9
>>> >>> seemed like an excellent candidate for the infrastructure. The
>>> biggest
>>> >>> challenge was porting software to Plan 9. Sadly, the idea never took
>>> >>> off. It would be a fun experiment.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Eduardo Alvarez
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Jules Merit
>>> >>>  wrote:
>>>  Well let's hope someone does something. Mark-my-words is writing
>>>  beautiful
>>>  code that has already been done.
>>> 
>>>  Push a little button, get .hot .chocolate.
>>>  -- Russ Cox Cable von Shane
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Aug 30, 2016 10:03 AM, "Skip Tavakkolian"
>>>  
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I heard that too (I think the woot was for Go on Plan 9/ARM).  I'm
>>> > sorry I
>>> > missed that meetup.
>>> >
>>> > I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle
>>> area.
>>> > There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful
>>> > thinking).
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:27 AM michaelian ennis
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian
>>> >>  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> as a 9fan, I can say, not dead yet. In fact the population of
>>> 9fans
>>> >>> in
>>> >>> my neighborhood has doubled.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> And for the county it has at least tripled.  I heard at least one
>>> >> other
>>> >> woot for Plan9 at Brad Fitzpatrick's talk last week.  :)
>>> >>
>>> >> Ian
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Winston Kodogo]

Yeah, but me, I prefer banging my head repeatedly against a brick wall
while chewing broken glass to using this troff thing. In this case, the
new-fangled stuff is just better, at least for normal people who just want
to get stuff done.

On 31 August 2016 at 12:51, Skip Tavakkolian 
wrote:

> some here still prefer hammer/chisel/stone to new-fangled
> quill/ink/parchment
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:22 PM Chris McGee  wrote:
>
>> Sure,
>>
>> I'm looking for plan9 user/enthusiast appropriate medium. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> > On Aug 30, 2016, at 6:18 PM, Eduardo Alvarez 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Are you keeping your progess public? It would be very educational to
>> read.
>> >
>> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Chris McGee 
>> wrote:
>> >> I am about a quarter of the way to a similar setup.
>> >>
>> >> My goal is to have a specialty for each of the Pi's (sensors,
>> controller,
>> >> terminal, router) without preventing them from doing general tasks. I'm
>> >> hoping to eventually connect up some Pi zeros as leaf nodes for just
>> >> sensor/control and plumb through 9P via UART pins.
>> >>
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 30, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <
>> skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It is straightforward and easy:
>> >>
>> >> https://plus.google.com/+SkipTavakkolian/posts/Fb846KhBMM6
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:54 AM Eduardo Alvarez <
>> astrochelon...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I mostly lurk around here, as I'm greener than green when it comes to
>> >>> plan 9. At some point in time, a friend and I were discussing setting
>> >>> up a small-sized computing cluster for small scale distributed
>> >>> computations. I was keen on the idea of using inexpensive hardware (we
>> >>> even joked about using a truckloads of Raspberry Pis), and plan 9
>> >>> seemed like an excellent candidate for the infrastructure. The biggest
>> >>> challenge was porting software to Plan 9. Sadly, the idea never took
>> >>> off. It would be a fun experiment.
>> >>>
>> >>> Eduardo Alvarez
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Jules Merit
>> >>>  wrote:
>>  Well let's hope someone does something. Mark-my-words is writing
>>  beautiful
>>  code that has already been done.
>> 
>>  Push a little button, get .hot .chocolate.
>>  -- Russ Cox Cable von Shane
>> 
>> 
>>  On Aug 30, 2016 10:03 AM, "Skip Tavakkolian"
>>  
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > I heard that too (I think the woot was for Go on Plan 9/ARM).  I'm
>> > sorry I
>> > missed that meetup.
>> >
>> > I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle
>> area.
>> > There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful
>> > thinking).
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:27 AM michaelian ennis
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> as a 9fan, I can say, not dead yet. In fact the population of
>> 9fans
>> >>> in
>> >>> my neighborhood has doubled.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> And for the county it has at least tripled.  I heard at least one
>> >> other
>> >> woot for Plan9 at Brad Fitzpatrick's talk last week.  :)
>> >>
>> >> Ian
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Chris McGee]

I could put it up as a troff file on a 9P share but then how will people find 
it and know when it's updated?

There's got to be some medium that is palatable to both hard core and new users.

Chris

> On Aug 30, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Skip Tavakkolian  
> wrote:
> 
> some here still prefer hammer/chisel/stone to new-fangled quill/ink/parchment
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:22 PM Chris McGee  wrote:
>> Sure,
>> 
>> I'm looking for plan9 user/enthusiast appropriate medium. Any suggestions?
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> > On Aug 30, 2016, at 6:18 PM, Eduardo Alvarez  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Are you keeping your progess public? It would be very educational to read.
>> >
>> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Chris McGee  
>> >> wrote:
>> >> I am about a quarter of the way to a similar setup.
>> >>
>> >> My goal is to have a specialty for each of the Pi's (sensors, controller,
>> >> terminal, router) without preventing them from doing general tasks. I'm
>> >> hoping to eventually connect up some Pi zeros as leaf nodes for just
>> >> sensor/control and plumb through 9P via UART pins.
>> >>
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 30, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Skip Tavakkolian 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It is straightforward and easy:
>> >>
>> >> https://plus.google.com/+SkipTavakkolian/posts/Fb846KhBMM6
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:54 AM Eduardo Alvarez 
>> >> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I mostly lurk around here, as I'm greener than green when it comes to
>> >>> plan 9. At some point in time, a friend and I were discussing setting
>> >>> up a small-sized computing cluster for small scale distributed
>> >>> computations. I was keen on the idea of using inexpensive hardware (we
>> >>> even joked about using a truckloads of Raspberry Pis), and plan 9
>> >>> seemed like an excellent candidate for the infrastructure. The biggest
>> >>> challenge was porting software to Plan 9. Sadly, the idea never took
>> >>> off. It would be a fun experiment.
>> >>>
>> >>> Eduardo Alvarez
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Jules Merit
>> >>>  wrote:
>>  Well let's hope someone does something. Mark-my-words is writing
>>  beautiful
>>  code that has already been done.
>> 
>>  Push a little button, get .hot .chocolate.
>>  -- Russ Cox Cable von Shane
>> 
>> 
>>  On Aug 30, 2016 10:03 AM, "Skip Tavakkolian"
>>  
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > I heard that too (I think the woot was for Go on Plan 9/ARM).  I'm
>> > sorry I
>> > missed that meetup.
>> >
>> > I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle area.
>> > There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful
>> > thinking).
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:27 AM michaelian ennis
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> as a 9fan, I can say, not dead yet. In fact the population of 9fans
>> >>> in
>> >>> my neighborhood has doubled.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> And for the county it has at least tripled.  I heard at least one
>> >> other
>> >> woot for Plan9 at Brad Fitzpatrick's talk last week.  :)
>> >>
>> >> Ian
>> >

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Skip Tavakkolian]

some here still prefer hammer/chisel/stone to new-fangled
quill/ink/parchment

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:22 PM Chris McGee  wrote:

> Sure,
>
> I'm looking for plan9 user/enthusiast appropriate medium. Any suggestions?
>
> Chris
>
> > On Aug 30, 2016, at 6:18 PM, Eduardo Alvarez 
> wrote:
> >
> > Are you keeping your progess public? It would be very educational to
> read.
> >
> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Chris McGee 
> wrote:
> >> I am about a quarter of the way to a similar setup.
> >>
> >> My goal is to have a specialty for each of the Pi's (sensors,
> controller,
> >> terminal, router) without preventing them from doing general tasks. I'm
> >> hoping to eventually connect up some Pi zeros as leaf nodes for just
> >> sensor/control and plumb through 9P via UART pins.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> On Aug 30, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <
> skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> It is straightforward and easy:
> >>
> >> https://plus.google.com/+SkipTavakkolian/posts/Fb846KhBMM6
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:54 AM Eduardo Alvarez <
> astrochelon...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I mostly lurk around here, as I'm greener than green when it comes to
> >>> plan 9. At some point in time, a friend and I were discussing setting
> >>> up a small-sized computing cluster for small scale distributed
> >>> computations. I was keen on the idea of using inexpensive hardware (we
> >>> even joked about using a truckloads of Raspberry Pis), and plan 9
> >>> seemed like an excellent candidate for the infrastructure. The biggest
> >>> challenge was porting software to Plan 9. Sadly, the idea never took
> >>> off. It would be a fun experiment.
> >>>
> >>> Eduardo Alvarez
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Jules Merit
> >>>  wrote:
>  Well let's hope someone does something. Mark-my-words is writing
>  beautiful
>  code that has already been done.
> 
>  Push a little button, get .hot .chocolate.
>  -- Russ Cox Cable von Shane
> 
> 
>  On Aug 30, 2016 10:03 AM, "Skip Tavakkolian"
>  
>  wrote:
> >
> > I heard that too (I think the woot was for Go on Plan 9/ARM).  I'm
> > sorry I
> > missed that meetup.
> >
> > I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle
> area.
> > There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful
> > thinking).
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:27 AM michaelian ennis
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> as a 9fan, I can say, not dead yet. In fact the population of 9fans
> >>> in
> >>> my neighborhood has doubled.
> >>
> >>
> >> And for the county it has at least tripled.  I heard at least one
> >> other
> >> woot for Plan9 at Brad Fitzpatrick's talk last week.  :)
> >>
> >> Ian
> >
>
>
>

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[cinap_lenrek]

> I'm looking for plan9 user/enthusiast appropriate medium. Any suggestions?

standard error.

--
cinap

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Chris McGee]

Sure,

I'm looking for plan9 user/enthusiast appropriate medium. Any suggestions?

Chris

> On Aug 30, 2016, at 6:18 PM, Eduardo Alvarez  wrote:
> 
> Are you keeping your progess public? It would be very educational to read.
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Chris McGee  wrote:
>> I am about a quarter of the way to a similar setup.
>> 
>> My goal is to have a specialty for each of the Pi's (sensors, controller,
>> terminal, router) without preventing them from doing general tasks. I'm
>> hoping to eventually connect up some Pi zeros as leaf nodes for just
>> sensor/control and plumb through 9P via UART pins.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Aug 30, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Skip Tavakkolian 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It is straightforward and easy:
>> 
>> https://plus.google.com/+SkipTavakkolian/posts/Fb846KhBMM6
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:54 AM Eduardo Alvarez 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I mostly lurk around here, as I'm greener than green when it comes to
>>> plan 9. At some point in time, a friend and I were discussing setting
>>> up a small-sized computing cluster for small scale distributed
>>> computations. I was keen on the idea of using inexpensive hardware (we
>>> even joked about using a truckloads of Raspberry Pis), and plan 9
>>> seemed like an excellent candidate for the infrastructure. The biggest
>>> challenge was porting software to Plan 9. Sadly, the idea never took
>>> off. It would be a fun experiment.
>>> 
>>> Eduardo Alvarez
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Jules Merit
>>>  wrote:
 Well let's hope someone does something. Mark-my-words is writing
 beautiful
 code that has already been done.
 
 Push a little button, get .hot .chocolate.
 -- Russ Cox Cable von Shane
 
 
 On Aug 30, 2016 10:03 AM, "Skip Tavakkolian"
 
 wrote:
> 
> I heard that too (I think the woot was for Go on Plan 9/ARM).  I'm
> sorry I
> missed that meetup.
> 
> I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle area.
> There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful
> thinking).
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:27 AM michaelian ennis
>  wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> as a 9fan, I can say, not dead yet. In fact the population of 9fans
>>> in
>>> my neighborhood has doubled.
>> 
>> 
>> And for the county it has at least tripled.  I heard at least one
>> other
>> woot for Plan9 at Brad Fitzpatrick's talk last week.  :)
>> 
>> Ian
> 

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Eduardo Alvarez]

Are you keeping your progess public? It would be very educational to read.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Chris McGee  wrote:
> I am about a quarter of the way to a similar setup.
>
> My goal is to have a specialty for each of the Pi's (sensors, controller,
> terminal, router) without preventing them from doing general tasks. I'm
> hoping to eventually connect up some Pi zeros as leaf nodes for just
> sensor/control and plumb through 9P via UART pins.
>
> Chris
>
> On Aug 30, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Skip Tavakkolian 
> wrote:
>
> It is straightforward and easy:
>
> https://plus.google.com/+SkipTavakkolian/posts/Fb846KhBMM6
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:54 AM Eduardo Alvarez 
> wrote:
>>
>> I mostly lurk around here, as I'm greener than green when it comes to
>> plan 9. At some point in time, a friend and I were discussing setting
>> up a small-sized computing cluster for small scale distributed
>> computations. I was keen on the idea of using inexpensive hardware (we
>> even joked about using a truckloads of Raspberry Pis), and plan 9
>> seemed like an excellent candidate for the infrastructure. The biggest
>> challenge was porting software to Plan 9. Sadly, the idea never took
>> off. It would be a fun experiment.
>>
>> Eduardo Alvarez
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Jules Merit
>>  wrote:
>> > Well let's hope someone does something. Mark-my-words is writing
>> > beautiful
>> > code that has already been done.
>> >
>> > Push a little button, get .hot .chocolate.
>> > -- Russ Cox Cable von Shane
>> >
>> >
>> > On Aug 30, 2016 10:03 AM, "Skip Tavakkolian"
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I heard that too (I think the woot was for Go on Plan 9/ARM).  I'm
>> >> sorry I
>> >> missed that meetup.
>> >>
>> >> I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle area.
>> >> There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful
>> >> thinking).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:27 AM michaelian ennis
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>>
>>  as a 9fan, I can say, not dead yet. In fact the population of 9fans
>>  in
>>  my neighborhood has doubled.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> And for the county it has at least tripled.  I heard at least one
>> >>> other
>> >>> woot for Plan9 at Brad Fitzpatrick's talk last week.  :)
>> >>>
>> >>> Ian
>>
>

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Steven Stallion]

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Kurt H Maier  wrote:
> How did you do that?  My web browser doesn't have a date command.  I've
> been posting to instagram and reading the resulting timestamp.  Is there
> a better way?

http://www.time.gov/

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Chris McGee]

I am about a quarter of the way to a similar setup.

My goal is to have a specialty for each of the Pi's (sensors, controller, 
terminal, router) without preventing them from doing general tasks. I'm hoping 
to eventually connect up some Pi zeros as leaf nodes for just sensor/control 
and plumb through 9P via UART pins.

Chris

> On Aug 30, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Skip Tavakkolian  
> wrote:
> 
> It is straightforward and easy:
> 
> https://plus.google.com/+SkipTavakkolian/posts/Fb846KhBMM6
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:54 AM Eduardo Alvarez  
>> wrote:
>> I mostly lurk around here, as I'm greener than green when it comes to
>> plan 9. At some point in time, a friend and I were discussing setting
>> up a small-sized computing cluster for small scale distributed
>> computations. I was keen on the idea of using inexpensive hardware (we
>> even joked about using a truckloads of Raspberry Pis), and plan 9
>> seemed like an excellent candidate for the infrastructure. The biggest
>> challenge was porting software to Plan 9. Sadly, the idea never took
>> off. It would be a fun experiment.
>> 
>> Eduardo Alvarez
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Jules Merit
>>  wrote:
>> > Well let's hope someone does something. Mark-my-words is writing beautiful
>> > code that has already been done.
>> >
>> > Push a little button, get .hot .chocolate.
>> > -- Russ Cox Cable von Shane
>> >
>> >
>> > On Aug 30, 2016 10:03 AM, "Skip Tavakkolian" 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I heard that too (I think the woot was for Go on Plan 9/ARM).  I'm sorry I
>> >> missed that meetup.
>> >>
>> >> I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle area.
>> >> There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful thinking).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:27 AM michaelian ennis
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>>
>>  as a 9fan, I can say, not dead yet. In fact the population of 9fans in
>>  my neighborhood has doubled.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> And for the county it has at least tripled.  I heard at least one other
>> >>> woot for Plan9 at Brad Fitzpatrick's talk last week.  :)
>> >>>
>> >>> Ian

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[hiro]

you mean it's the day of the chrome OS?

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Kurt H Maier]

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 04:58:18PM -0500, Steven Stallion wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:41 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > i'd like it if people would stick to one medium: i don't want to be
> > forced to use a web browser to participate in discussions on this
> > mailing list.
> 
> Sorry, I had to double check the date after reading this.
> 

How did you do that?  My web browser doesn't have a date command.  I've
been posting to instagram and reading the resulting timestamp.  Is there
a better way?

khm

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Steven Stallion]

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:41 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i'd like it if people would stick to one medium: i don't want to be
> forced to use a web browser to participate in discussions on this
> mailing list.

Sorry, I had to double check the date after reading this.

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[hiro]

skip: what is straightforward and easy? your link seems like google
plus is shutting down, but your post is gone?

i'd like it if people would stick to one medium: i don't want to be
forced to use a web browser to participate in discussions on this
mailing list.

On 8/30/16, Skip Tavakkolian  wrote:
> It is straightforward and easy:
>
> https://plus.google.com/+SkipTavakkolian/posts/Fb846KhBMM6
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:54 AM Eduardo Alvarez 
> wrote:
>
>> I mostly lurk around here, as I'm greener than green when it comes to
>> plan 9. At some point in time, a friend and I were discussing setting
>> up a small-sized computing cluster for small scale distributed
>> computations. I was keen on the idea of using inexpensive hardware (we
>> even joked about using a truckloads of Raspberry Pis), and plan 9
>> seemed like an excellent candidate for the infrastructure. The biggest
>> challenge was porting software to Plan 9. Sadly, the idea never took
>> off. It would be a fun experiment.
>>
>> Eduardo Alvarez
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Jules Merit
>>  wrote:
>> > Well let's hope someone does something. Mark-my-words is writing
>> beautiful
>> > code that has already been done.
>> >
>> > Push a little button, get .hot .chocolate.
>> > -- Russ Cox Cable von Shane
>> >
>> >
>> > On Aug 30, 2016 10:03 AM, "Skip Tavakkolian"
>> > > >
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I heard that too (I think the woot was for Go on Plan 9/ARM).  I'm
>> sorry I
>> >> missed that meetup.
>> >>
>> >> I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle
>> >> area.
>> >> There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful
>> thinking).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:27 AM michaelian ennis
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>>
>>  as a 9fan, I can say, not dead yet. In fact the population of 9fans
>>  in
>>  my neighborhood has doubled.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> And for the county it has at least tripled.  I heard at least one
>> >>> other
>> >>> woot for Plan9 at Brad Fitzpatrick's talk last week.  :)
>> >>>
>> >>> Ian
>>
>>
>

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Skip Tavakkolian]

It is straightforward and easy:

https://plus.google.com/+SkipTavakkolian/posts/Fb846KhBMM6

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:54 AM Eduardo Alvarez 
wrote:

> I mostly lurk around here, as I'm greener than green when it comes to
> plan 9. At some point in time, a friend and I were discussing setting
> up a small-sized computing cluster for small scale distributed
> computations. I was keen on the idea of using inexpensive hardware (we
> even joked about using a truckloads of Raspberry Pis), and plan 9
> seemed like an excellent candidate for the infrastructure. The biggest
> challenge was porting software to Plan 9. Sadly, the idea never took
> off. It would be a fun experiment.
>
> Eduardo Alvarez
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Jules Merit
>  wrote:
> > Well let's hope someone does something. Mark-my-words is writing
> beautiful
> > code that has already been done.
> >
> > Push a little button, get .hot .chocolate.
> > -- Russ Cox Cable von Shane
> >
> >
> > On Aug 30, 2016 10:03 AM, "Skip Tavakkolian"  >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I heard that too (I think the woot was for Go on Plan 9/ARM).  I'm
> sorry I
> >> missed that meetup.
> >>
> >> I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle area.
> >> There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful
> thinking).
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:27 AM michaelian ennis
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
>  as a 9fan, I can say, not dead yet. In fact the population of 9fans in
>  my neighborhood has doubled.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And for the county it has at least tripled.  I heard at least one other
> >>> woot for Plan9 at Brad Fitzpatrick's talk last week.  :)
> >>>
> >>> Ian
>
>

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Jules Merit]

I keep a NFS mount to parallel dev Linux Solaris Irix including ARM. It
uses m4 as there is no compiler on Sol/Sgi. It was used to create 9p
services and RC on all systems much like macros in assembler.

There isn't much desire to port as most programs should be rethought.
Today's programs are too monolithic and redundant. Break them up like
cat/pipe find overlaps and turn them into modules callable with RC.
--Bootes

On Aug 30, 2016 11:55 AM, "Eduardo Alvarez" 
wrote:

> I mostly lurk around here, as I'm greener than green when it comes to
> plan 9. At some point in time, a friend and I were discussing setting
> up a small-sized computing cluster for small scale distributed
> computations. I was keen on the idea of using inexpensive hardware (we
> even joked about using a truckloads of Raspberry Pis), and plan 9
> seemed like an excellent candidate for the infrastructure. The biggest
> challenge was porting software to Plan 9. Sadly, the idea never took
> off. It would be a fun experiment.
>
> Eduardo Alvarez
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Jules Merit
>  wrote:
> > Well let's hope someone does something. Mark-my-words is writing
> beautiful
> > code that has already been done.
> >
> > Push a little button, get .hot .chocolate.
> > -- Russ Cox Cable von Shane
> >
> >
> > On Aug 30, 2016 10:03 AM, "Skip Tavakkolian"  >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I heard that too (I think the woot was for Go on Plan 9/ARM).  I'm
> sorry I
> >> missed that meetup.
> >>
> >> I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle area.
> >> There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful
> thinking).
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:27 AM michaelian ennis
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
>  as a 9fan, I can say, not dead yet. In fact the population of 9fans in
>  my neighborhood has doubled.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And for the county it has at least tripled.  I heard at least one other
> >>> woot for Plan9 at Brad Fitzpatrick's talk last week.  :)
> >>>
> >>> Ian
>
>

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Eduardo Alvarez]

I mostly lurk around here, as I'm greener than green when it comes to
plan 9. At some point in time, a friend and I were discussing setting
up a small-sized computing cluster for small scale distributed
computations. I was keen on the idea of using inexpensive hardware (we
even joked about using a truckloads of Raspberry Pis), and plan 9
seemed like an excellent candidate for the infrastructure. The biggest
challenge was porting software to Plan 9. Sadly, the idea never took
off. It would be a fun experiment.

Eduardo Alvarez

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Jules Merit
 wrote:
> Well let's hope someone does something. Mark-my-words is writing beautiful
> code that has already been done.
>
> Push a little button, get .hot .chocolate.
> -- Russ Cox Cable von Shane
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2016 10:03 AM, "Skip Tavakkolian" 
> wrote:
>>
>> I heard that too (I think the woot was for Go on Plan 9/ARM).  I'm sorry I
>> missed that meetup.
>>
>> I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle area.
>> There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful thinking).
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:27 AM michaelian ennis
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 as a 9fan, I can say, not dead yet. In fact the population of 9fans in
 my neighborhood has doubled.
>>>
>>>
>>> And for the county it has at least tripled.  I heard at least one other
>>> woot for Plan9 at Brad Fitzpatrick's talk last week.  :)
>>>
>>> Ian

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Jules Merit]

Well let's hope someone does something. Mark-my-words is writing beautiful
code that has already been done.

Push a little button, get .hot .chocolate.
-- Russ Cox Cable von Shane

On Aug 30, 2016 10:03 AM, "Skip Tavakkolian" 
wrote:

> I heard that too (I think the woot was for Go on Plan 9/ARM).  I'm sorry I
> missed that meetup.
>
> I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle area.
> There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful thinking).
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:27 AM michaelian ennis <
> michaelian.en...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <
>> skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> as a 9fan, I can say, not dead yet. In fact the population of 9fans in my
>>> neighborhood has doubled.
>>>
>>
>> And for the county it has at least tripled.  I heard at least one other
>> woot for Plan9 at Brad Fitzpatrick's talk last week.  :)
>>
>> Ian
>>
>

Re: [9fans] plan9port rendering garbled

[Eris Discordia]

Look into hinting and subpixel hinting modes of Freetype2.

For different people different combinations of modes (full, medium, 
slight, none for hinting; 0/1/2 for subpixel hinting) give optimal results.


Hinting is usually set via symlinks under /etc/fonts/conf.d/ to what's 
available under /etc/fonts/conf.avail. Subpixel hinting via environment 
variable FT2_SUBPIXEL_HINTING.



On 08/30/2016 05:08 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
Sorry to post here; I've not been able to post the issue to plan9port 
on github.


after updating to ubuntu 16.04 (from 14.04), i see garbled fonts in 
sam/acme/9term, etc. it doesn't seem to matter if native or host fonts 
are used (via fontsrv). attached is what it looks like in acme.


i've been looking at p9p's devdraw and i'm suspecting something with 
Xlib calls has changed slightly.

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Kurt H Maier]

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 05:01:36PM +, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> 
> I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle area.
> There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful thinking).

I regret to inform you I now live within driving distance of Seattle.
Please bear this in mind when making future plans.

khm

[9fans] plan9port rendering garbled

[Skip Tavakkolian]

Sorry to post here; I've not been able to post the issue to plan9port on
github.

after updating to ubuntu 16.04 (from 14.04), i see garbled fonts in
sam/acme/9term, etc. it doesn't seem to matter if native or host fonts are
used (via fontsrv). attached is what it looks like in acme.

i've been looking at p9p's devdraw and i'm suspecting something with Xlib
calls has changed slightly.

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[michaelian ennis]

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <
skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote:

as a 9fan, I can say, not dead yet. In fact the population of 9fans in my
> neighborhood has doubled.
>

And for the county it has at least tripled.  I heard at least one other
woot for Plan9 at Brad Fitzpatrick's talk last week.  :)

Ian