Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy?

[Thaddeus Woskowiak]

On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 7:45 PM adr  wrote:
>
> Oh man, hiro, you always running to the fun... but sometimes I
> don't know if you are smoking something good (let me know) or if
> it is that you just don't even bore to read the threads before
> jumping in anymore.
>
> I don't have any problem with the name of the port, I've used the
> pi4 port of cinap in 9front a lot. I was asking explicitly about
> labs|9legacy because that would be more easy to use in my local
> dist.
>
> I don't have any problem with the people at 9front, stop spreading
> bullshit, I'm using fossil and shrinking the system a lot (e.g. I
> got rid of ape for real), if not I would be using 9front. For me
> is just easiest (and it helps me to understand better the system) to
> import what I need or like.
>
> > maybe go back to playing with your new macbook? there's good customer
> > support for that.
>
> Good troll skills, but you are not dealing with a young hipster,
> I'm a middle-aged man who never have bought an overpriced piece of
> fashion-tech-crap like that in my life. And before you try another
> piece from your popular repertoire, I don't use twitter, facebook,
> instagram, &c.
>
> Now put yourself in my pants. A simple question. Look at the thread.
> Look at the thread!
>
>

You've embarrassed yourself enough already. Please end this tantrum.

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[9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy?

[adr]

Oh man, hiro, you always running to the fun... but sometimes I
don't know if you are smoking something good (let me know) or if
it is that you just don't even bore to read the threads before
jumping in anymore.

I don't have any problem with the name of the port, I've used the
pi4 port of cinap in 9front a lot. I was asking explicitly about
labs|9legacy because that would be more easy to use in my local
dist.

I don't have any problem with the people at 9front, stop spreading
bullshit, I'm using fossil and shrinking the system a lot (e.g. I
got rid of ape for real), if not I would be using 9front. For me
is just easiest (and it helps me to understand better the system) to
import what I need or like.


maybe go back to playing with your new macbook? there's good customer
support for that.


Good troll skills, but you are not dealing with a young hipster,
I'm a middle-aged man who never have bought an overpriced piece of
fashion-tech-crap like that in my life. And before you try another
piece from your popular repertoire, I don't use twitter, facebook,
instagram, &c.

Now put yourself in my pants. A simple question. Look at the thread.
Look at the thread!

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Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy?

[hiro]

> Great.

indeed. thank charles and cinap for it.

> Because with this 4 magical words I was supposed to find... what?
> Where? What are you talking about?

magical words? what *are* you talking about!

> Where is this work on Bell Labs'
> plan9

Bell Labs is not working on plan9 any more.

> What are you talking about?

yes.

> You haven't help me to find anything, you don't have to do it, of
> course, but then don't talk like you have done it.

it's just that you don't like what you found. he helped by making sure
there would be a compiler.

you don't like the compiler because it has the wrong brandname
attached to it, and the wrong people are playing with it, am i right?

> A simple question, a fucking simple question and here we go with
> the trolling and the bullshit, I'm done with this fucking list.

maybe go back to playing with your new macbook? there's good customer
support for that.

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Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy?

[Dan Cross]

On Sun, May 22, 2022, 4:16 PM adr  wrote:

> Has someone done something with aarch64 on labs|9legacy?
> It's called arm64
>
> Great.
>
> Because with this 4 magical words I was supposed to find... what?
> Where? What are you talking about? Where is this work on Bell Labs'
> plan9 that I could find using the string "arm64" (which of course
> I knew already from 9front, the only distribution with aarch64
> support)? Even in Inferno there is no aarch64 support. Where are
> this people publishing aarch64 work in the labs distribution that
> I could fing using "arm64"? What are you talking about?
>
> But now after all the useful interesting contribution to the list,
> as usual, you have time to even express sarcasm.
>
> You haven't help me to find anything, you don't have to do it, of
> course, but then don't talk like you have done it.
>

I've known and observed Charles for a very long time, indeed. I can imagine
how you interpreted what he wrote as you have, but perhaps consider that he
didn't mean what he wrote in the way you have taken it.

A simple question, a fucking simple question and here we go with
> the trolling and the bullshit, I'm done with this fucking list.
>

Probably for the best.

- Dan C.

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Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy?

[adr]

Has someone done something with aarch64 on labs|9legacy?
It's called arm64

Great.

Because with this 4 magical words I was supposed to find... what?
Where? What are you talking about? Where is this work on Bell Labs'
plan9 that I could find using the string "arm64" (which of course
I knew already from 9front, the only distribution with aarch64
support)? Even in Inferno there is no aarch64 support. Where are
this people publishing aarch64 work in the labs distribution that
I could fing using "arm64"? What are you talking about?

But now after all the useful interesting contribution to the list,
as usual, you have time to even express sarcasm.

You haven't help me to find anything, you don't have to do it, of
course, but then don't talk like you have done it.

A simple question, a fucking simple question and here we go with
the trolling and the bullshit, I'm done with this fucking list.

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Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy?

[Charles Forsyth]

You enquired about support for an architecture within Plan 9 on a Plan 9
list so the context was clear and I reply with the relevant architecture
string to help you locate it, but get a little lecture about Arm's naming
scheme (come to think of it, what are Thumb-1 and Thumb-2 called?). Next
time, I'll insist on the 27B/6.

On Fri, 20 May 2022, 22:27 adr,  wrote:

> On Fri, 20 May 2022, Charles Forsyth wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 21:34:05 +0100
> > From: Charles Forsyth 
> > Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
> > To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
> > Subject: Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy?
> >
> > It's called arm64
> 
> From
> https://developer.arm.com/documentation/den0024/a/Introduction?lang=en
> 
> "AArch64 is the name used to describe the 64-bit execution state
> of the ARMv8 architecture. AArch32 describes the 32-bit execution
> state of the ARMv8 architecture, which is almost identical to ARMv7.
> GNU and Linux documentation (except for Redhat and Fedora distributions)
> sometimes refers to AArch64 as ARM64."
> 
> I would agree that you could use the therm ARM64 as a synonym of
> Aarch64, but giving me just that response... It isn't even funny.
> 
> adr.

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Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy?

[hiro]

oops, i forgot there was also 32bit :D

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Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy?

[Dan Cross]

On Sun, May 22, 2022, 10:37 AM hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> why not use millers Rpi kernel instead? Isn't it also including all the
> important changes?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but Richard's kernel is 32-bit (Aarch32) only,
though with the PAE stuff enabled to access more than 4GiB of _physical_
memory. The virtual address space is still limited to 4GiB.

- Dan C.

On Sunday, May 22, 2022, adr  wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 May 2022, Dan Cross wrote:
>>
>>> To answer your original question, no: there is no aarch64 support in
>>> either 9legacy or the
>>> Bell Labs distribution.
>>>
>>> - Dan C.
>>>
>> 
>> I just ported 7c, 7l and 7a from 9front. I'm adjusting libmach,
>> mkfiles, etc. Porting 9front's aarch64 raspberry pi kernel can be
>> an oportunity to learn about the kernel design.
>> 
>> adr.
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Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy?

[hiro]

why not use millers Rpi kernel instead? Isn't it also including all the
important changes?


On Sunday, May 22, 2022, adr  wrote:

> On Sat, 21 May 2022, Dan Cross wrote:
>
>> To answer your original question, no: there is no aarch64 support in
>> either 9legacy or the
>> Bell Labs distribution.
>>
>> - Dan C.
>>
> 
> I just ported 7c, 7l and 7a from 9front. I'm adjusting libmach,
> mkfiles, etc. Porting 9front's aarch64 raspberry pi kernel can be
> an oportunity to learn about the kernel design.
> 
> adr.

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