[9fans] Plan 9 keyboard and mouse

2012-04-24 Thread Iain Watson Smith
Hello! I'm a relatively new user to plan 9, and I am studying it as part of
an elective unit at university for free and open source software
development. So far the experience is interesting and I am using a plan9
port to test out the features of plan9. I have a question about keyboard
and mouse interaction in the OS that relates to fast keys available for the
windows. Do any exist for use of say windows switching, closing or any
other operations for menus within plan 9?


Re: [9fans] Plan 9 keyboard and mouse

2012-04-24 Thread Yaroslav
 I have a question about keyboard and mouse interaction in the OS that
 relates to fast keys available for the windows. Do any exist for use of say
 windows switching, closing or any other operations for menus within plan 9?

The fast keys are mouse buttons, that's it. Just take it: once you get
used to it you'll feel allright about this.



Re: [9fans] Plan 9 keyboard and mouse

2012-04-24 Thread Stephen Wiley

On Apr 24, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Yaroslav wrote:

 I have a question about keyboard and mouse interaction in the OS that
 relates to fast keys available for the windows. Do any exist for use of say
 windows switching, closing or any other operations for menus within plan 9?
 
 The fast keys are mouse buttons, that's it. Just take it: once you get
 used to it you'll feel allright about this.
 


I believe sl wrote a program that lets you group windows onto function keys (so 
pushing the function key for a window group will cycle through the windows) 
that's not part of the main distribution though.

If your having trouble with windows getting buried, winwatch will list open 
windows and let you switch between them with the mouse (this was an issue I had 
when I first started playing with plan9).


Re: [9fans] Plan 9 keyboard and mouse

2012-04-24 Thread Matthew Veety
On Apr 24, 2012 10:21 AM, Stephen Wiley swwi...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Apr 24, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Yaroslav wrote:

  I have a question about keyboard and mouse interaction in the OS that
  relates to fast keys available for the windows. Do any exist for use
of say
  windows switching, closing or any other operations for menus within
plan 9?
 
  The fast keys are mouse buttons, that's it. Just take it: once you get
  used to it you'll feel allright about this.
 


 I believe sl wrote a program that lets you group windows onto function
keys (so pushing the function key for a window group will cycle through the
windows) that's not part of the main distribution though.

 If your having trouble with windows getting buried, winwatch will list
open windows and let you switch between them with the mouse (this was an
issue I had when I first started playing with plan9).

I'm adding similar functionality to the windows alt-tab to my mod of Rio.
The function keys thing sounds cool though. Where is the source for that?

--
Veety


Re: [9fans] Plan 9 keyboard and mouse

2012-04-24 Thread sl
 I believe sl wrote a program that lets you group windows onto
 function keys

Specifically, taruti hacked rio to map certain windows to a tag
(similar to dwm) by writing stings to /dev/wctl, then switch between
the tags by hitting a function key, which brings all the windows in
the given tag to the top.

I packaged this for 9front and included some scripts that I launch
from my riostart to setup my environment:

http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/pkg/386/hjrio-2012.04.17.tbz

Unpack over / and the source will be installed in
/sys/src/pkg/hjrio-2012.04.17 (no binaries will be installed on the
system until you run 'mk install' in the source directory).

So far as I know, I'm the only person who actually uses this code.

My rio environment is comprised of four general sections, constructed
by four (included) rc scripts.  The four scripts -- header, verso,
recto and spread -- organize the screen as follows:

header
the following are always visible
winwatch
faces
weather ticker displayed via aux/statusmsg
stats
verso
tag one
several irc7 windows displaying one channel per window
recto
tag one
tw
tag three
kprint
ssh session to openbsd
telnet session to 9bbs
tag five
nedmail
spread
tag two
sam

These are in turn launched from my riostart:

% cat $home/lib/riostart
#!/bin/rc
header
spread
recto
verso -i
if(~ $sysname mt*)
recto -6
if not
recto -3

In the end, it all looks something like this:

http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rio/img/tagone.png
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rio/img/tagtwo.png
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rio/img/tagthree.png
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rio/img/tagfour.png
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rio/img/tagfive.png

The result is that the environment snaps into being whenever
I boot my terminal. I switch between tags by hitting the
corresponding function key (f1 for tag one, f2 for tag two,
and so on). In practice, I almost never have to create or
destroy windows unless I'm doing something temporary or
unusual.

-sl



Re: [9fans] Plan 9 keyboard and mouse

2012-04-24 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
sl wrote:
 http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rio/img/tagfour.png

Wow, I didn't know linuxemu got so good.

-- 
Aram Hăvărneanu



Re: [9fans] Plan 9 keyboard and mouse

2012-04-24 Thread sl
 sl wrote:
 http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rio/img/tagfour.png

 Wow, I didn't know linuxemu got so good.

Ah. I left this one out of my description:

spread
tag four
vncv connected to a headless openbsd machine

The available mroot for linuxemu is still based on
Debian Sarge, which can't quite manage Chrome or
Chromium. The newest working browser I've found for
that environment is opera_10.11.4791.gcc3.qt3_i386.deb.

Some points on using linuxemu with equis:

- No shared snarf buffer, unlike with vncv
- Unpredictable instability, resource exhaustion, etc.
- Even Opera 10.11 is incompatible with many modern sites

-sl