Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-05-04 Thread David Leimbach
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, ron minnich  wrote:

> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:23 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > The more interesting question is: who doesn't agree, and why?
> >
> > On 5/4/10, Pavel Klinkovsky  wrote:
> >>> maybe it is time to try to pack-port some of Erik's stuff to the
> canonical
> >>> source.
> >> I fully agree.
> >>
> >> Pavel
>
> The argument here is that we need to sync 9atom back to sources, and
> that may well be true.
>
> But there's another path:
> use mercurial to create a clone of
> http://bitbucket.org/rminnich/sysfromiso
> you can call it 9atom.
>
> You can put your changes there.
>
> Then you can use the mercurial tools to continually refresh your 9atom
> tree from sysfromiso.
>
> In that way, you can provide a 9atom tree that is perfectly in sync
> with sources, and it is easy for others to see what you have done.
> And, most importantly, the maintainers of the main tree can easily see
> what they need to see, and figure out what ought to come back to the
> mainline, and pull back things that make sense to pull back.
>
> There is real precedent nowadays for people to maintain forks of a
> kernel tree, where they can experiment, and do so in a way that makes
> merges back to the mainline easy.
>
> ron
>
> Right, forks aren't always evil and to be avoided.  In some cases they're
just perfect for organized experimentation.


Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-05-04 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:23 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> The more interesting question is: who doesn't agree, and why?
>
> On 5/4/10, Pavel Klinkovsky  wrote:
>>> maybe it is time to try to pack-port some of Erik's stuff to the canonical
>>> source.
>> I fully agree.
>>
>> Pavel

The argument here is that we need to sync 9atom back to sources, and
that may well be true.

But there's another path:
use mercurial to create a clone of http://bitbucket.org/rminnich/sysfromiso
you can call it 9atom.

You can put your changes there.

Then you can use the mercurial tools to continually refresh your 9atom
tree from sysfromiso.

In that way, you can provide a 9atom tree that is perfectly in sync
with sources, and it is easy for others to see what you have done.
And, most importantly, the maintainers of the main tree can easily see
what they need to see, and figure out what ought to come back to the
mainline, and pull back things that make sense to pull back.

There is real precedent nowadays for people to maintain forks of a
kernel tree, where they can experiment, and do so in a way that makes
merges back to the mainline easy.

ron



Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-05-04 Thread hiro
If this is true you must be quite a few steps ahead of us all.

On 5/4/10, EBo  wrote:
>
>> >> maybe it is time to try to pack-port some of Erik's stuff to the
>> >> canonical
>> >> source.
>> > I fully agree.
>>
>> The more interesting question is: who doesn't agree, and why?
>
> and the most important question -- who's going to work on it.
>
>   EBo --
>
>



Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-05-04 Thread EBo

> >> maybe it is time to try to pack-port some of Erik's stuff to the canonical
> >> source.
> > I fully agree.
>
> The more interesting question is: who doesn't agree, and why?

and the most important question -- who's going to work on it.

  EBo --



Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-05-04 Thread hiro
The more interesting question is: who doesn't agree, and why?

On 5/4/10, Pavel Klinkovsky  wrote:
>> maybe it is time to try to pack-port some of Erik's stuff to the canonical
>> source.
> I fully agree.
>
> Pavel
>
>



Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-05-04 Thread Pavel Klinkovsky
> maybe it is time to try to pack-port some of Erik's stuff to the canonical 
> source.
I fully agree.

Pavel



Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-05-01 Thread Michael Arnold
Thanks erik - that works perfectly!


On 30/04/10 10:07 PM, "erik quanstrom"  wrote:

>> Some additional info on the hardware:
>> - CD Rom - Philips DVD+-RW DVD8801 ATA Device
>> - IDE Controller is an Intel 82801G (ICH7 family) Ultra ATA Storage
>> Controllers ­ 27D7F, PCI Bus 0,IRQ: 0x000E (14)
> 
> try 9atom.  it works around quirks in ich7, especially with
> sata + pata combos.
> 
>  ftp://ftp.quanstro.net/other/9atom.iso.bz2
> 
> - erik
> 





Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-04-30 Thread EBo
Pavel Klinkovsky  said:

> > And all activity seems to stop with cursor blinking.  Keyboard unresponsive
> > to CTL-R.
>
> It starts to be typical...
> Try Erik's 9atom.iso. ;-)

maybe it is time to try to pack-port some of Erik's stuff to the canonical 
source.

  EBo --




Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-04-30 Thread Pavel Klinkovsky
> And all activity seems to stop with cursor blinking.  Keyboard unresponsive
> to CTL-R.
It starts to be typical...
Try Erik's 9atom.iso. ;-)

Pavel



Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-04-30 Thread erik quanstrom
> Some additional info on the hardware:
> - CD Rom - Philips DVD+-RW DVD8801 ATA Device
> - IDE Controller is an Intel 82801G (ICH7 family) Ultra ATA Storage
> Controllers ­ 27D7F, PCI Bus 0,IRQ: 0x000E (14)

try 9atom.  it works around quirks in ich7, especially with
sata + pata combos.

 ftp://ftp.quanstro.net/other/9atom.iso.bz2

- erik