Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-21 Thread fgergo
On 11/21/19, Bakul Shah  wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 08:49:32 +0100 fge...@gmail.com wrote:
> fge...@gmail.com writes:
>> On 11/21/19, fge...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> > On 11/21/19, arn...@skeeve.com  wrote:
>> >> "Ethan Gardener"  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here.
>> >>>
>> >>> it's called plan9port-dev and it's on google groups:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/plan9port-dev
>> >>
>> >> Clicking on the link tells me I don't have access to the group.
>> >>
>> >> I reported something directly to Russ a few days ago, but didn't
>> >> hear back...
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Arnold
>> >
>> > https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=3Demail_source=3Dfooter#!=
>> forum/plan9port-dev
>> > should look more friendly.
>>
>> I'm not sure what's happening. I've tried this ^ again in incognito
>> mode and it was (probably) the same error page Arnold reported. After
>> several browser restarts and checks later sometimes the result is the
>> topic list as expected, but sometimes it's the error page.
>
> It is a private group.
> Ask to subscribe by sending email to
> plan9port-dev+subscr...@googlegroups.com

Sure, but it's not a reason for either of these links to respond - at
least for me -inconsistently.
(Or at least until recently this was not the norm on google groups,
though maybe things have deteriorated more.)
Yes, this is off topic.

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Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-20 Thread Bakul Shah
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 08:49:32 +0100 fge...@gmail.com wrote:
fge...@gmail.com writes:
> On 11/21/19, fge...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > On 11/21/19, arn...@skeeve.com  wrote:
> >> "Ethan Gardener"  wrote:
> >>
> >>> > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here.
> >>>
> >>> it's called plan9port-dev and it's on google groups:
> >>>
> >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/plan9port-dev
> >>
> >> Clicking on the link tells me I don't have access to the group.
> >>
> >> I reported something directly to Russ a few days ago, but didn't
> >> hear back...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Arnold
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=3Demail_source=3Dfooter#!=
> forum/plan9port-dev
> > should look more friendly.
>
> I'm not sure what's happening. I've tried this ^ again in incognito
> mode and it was (probably) the same error page Arnold reported. After
> several browser restarts and checks later sometimes the result is the
> topic list as expected, but sometimes it's the error page.

It is a private group.
Ask to subscribe by sending email to plan9port-dev+subscr...@googlegroups.com

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Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-20 Thread fgergo
On 11/21/19, fge...@gmail.com  wrote:
> On 11/21/19, arn...@skeeve.com  wrote:
>> "Ethan Gardener"  wrote:
>>
>>> > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here.
>>>
>>> it's called plan9port-dev and it's on google groups:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/plan9port-dev
>>
>> Clicking on the link tells me I don't have access to the group.
>>
>> I reported something directly to Russ a few days ago, but didn't
>> hear back...
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Arnold
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email_source=footer#!forum/plan9port-dev
> should look more friendly.

I'm not sure what's happening. I've tried this ^ again in incognito
mode and it was (probably) the same error page Arnold reported. After
several browser restarts and checks later sometimes the result is the
topic list as expected, but sometimes it's the error page.

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Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-20 Thread fgergo
On 11/21/19, arn...@skeeve.com  wrote:
> "Ethan Gardener"  wrote:
>
>> > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here.
>>
>> it's called plan9port-dev and it's on google groups:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/plan9port-dev
>
> Clicking on the link tells me I don't have access to the group.
>
> I reported something directly to Russ a few days ago, but didn't
> hear back...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Arnold

https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email_source=footer#!forum/plan9port-dev
should look more friendly.

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Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-20 Thread arnold
"Ethan Gardener"  wrote:

> > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here.
>
> it's called plan9port-dev and it's on google groups:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/plan9port-dev

Clicking on the link tells me I don't have access to the group.

I reported something directly to Russ a few days ago, but didn't 
hear back...

Thanks,

Arnold

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Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-20 Thread Ethan Gardener
> i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here.

it's called plan9port-dev and it's on google groups:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/plan9port-dev

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Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-09 Thread Darren Wise
Yeah me too, with regards to an eBay bid for an Contour mouse! Hope I win in 
the next few days.

Devilishly stricking design, I could only find an large, right-handed model.. 
would have preferred a medium, right-handed but who cares as it seems to be a 
lovely mouse and a huge upgrade on my sloppy to-small boring £7 maplin own 
brand mouse but has lasted me years with no problems yet :D

Awesome mention Aram & Jeremy :D

On 9 November 2019 19:51:55 GMT, Jeremy Jackins  wrote:
>This looks great, thanks for the tip. Found one on ebay for $30
>(stores in Canada are selling it for CAD $120...)
>
>On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 07:37, Aram Hăvărneanu  wrote:
>>
>> https://www.contourdesign.com/product/contour-mouse/
>>
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Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-09 Thread Jeremy Jackins
This looks great, thanks for the tip. Found one on ebay for $30
(stores in Canada are selling it for CAD $120...)

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 07:37, Aram Hăvărneanu  wrote:
>
> https://www.contourdesign.com/product/contour-mouse/
>
> --
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Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-08 Thread James A. Robinson
Oh that's very nice, I'll have to update and try it.  Thank you for
pointing this out!

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 10:19 AM Xiao-Yong Jin  wrote:
>
> since commit 9af9ceca, the metal backend has (undocumented),
>
>   Allow touch events to simulate mouse clicks:
>   three finger tap for the middle mouse button;
>   four finger tap for the 2-1 chord.
>
> In addition Ctrl/Alt/Cmd works as 1/2/3 button, so you can invoke 2-1 chord 
> by pressing Alt and then Ctrl with your left thumb, while right thumb pressed 
> on the trackpad.

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Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-08 Thread Xiao-Yong Jin
since commit 9af9ceca, the metal backend has (undocumented),

  Allow touch events to simulate mouse clicks:
  three finger tap for the middle mouse button;
  four finger tap for the 2-1 chord.

In addition Ctrl/Alt/Cmd works as 1/2/3 button, so you can invoke 2-1 chord by 
pressing Alt and then Ctrl with your left thumb, while right thumb pressed on 
the trackpad.

> On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:21 AM, James A. Robinson  wrote:
> 
> I am running plan9port on my mac.  I used to use acme with the
> https://codereview.appspot.com/6115053 patch for the trackpad on my
> laptop, but at some point that stopped working.  I didn't care to dig
> into it at the time and switched to using the Alt/Cmd button
> modifiers.  Currently  since I'm not traveling much I'm using the
> Evoluent VM4RB VerticalMouse, which has 3+ buttons.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 4:44 AM Steve Simon  wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here.
>> 
>> anyone using plan9port on osx? if so which mouse are you using? i am 
>> fighting with a magic mouse2 which, with the addition of the magicperfs app 
>> can do both scrolling and 3 buttons.
>> 
>> sadly the middle button support is buggy an often misfires.
>> 
>> anyone found better software, or do i have just go back to traditional mouse?
>> 
>> -Steve
>> 

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Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-08 Thread James A. Robinson
I am running plan9port on my mac.  I used to use acme with the
https://codereview.appspot.com/6115053 patch for the trackpad on my
laptop, but at some point that stopped working.  I didn't care to dig
into it at the time and switched to using the Alt/Cmd button
modifiers.  Currently  since I'm not traveling much I'm using the
Evoluent VM4RB VerticalMouse, which has 3+ buttons.


On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 4:44 AM Steve Simon  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here.
> 
> anyone using plan9port on osx? if so which mouse are you using? i am fighting 
> with a magic mouse2 which, with the addition of the magicperfs app can do 
> both scrolling and 3 buttons.
> 
> sadly the middle button support is buggy an often misfires.
> 
> anyone found better software, or do i have just go back to traditional mouse?
> 
> -Steve
> 

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Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-08 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
https://www.contourdesign.com/product/contour-mouse/

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Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-08 Thread Mat Kovach



- Original Message -
> From: "Steve Simon" 
> To: 9fans@9fans.net
> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 7:42:48 AM
> Subject: [9fans] plan9port on osx
> hi,
> 
> i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here.
> 
> anyone using plan9port on osx? if so which mouse are you using? i am fighting
> with a magic mouse2 which, with the addition of the magicperfs app can do both
> scrolling and 3 buttons.
> 
> sadly the middle button support is buggy an often misfires.
> 
> anyone found better software, or do i have just go back to traditional mouse?

I use plan9port on MacOS at work daily (acme is my IDE).  I have a use a 
Logitech trackball, which has three buttons. I'm not sure where my magic 
mouse landed after I though it.

; man 1 acme 

``Simulated buttons
  For systems without a three-button mouse, the keyboard modi-
  fier keys can be used to modify the effect of the main mouse
  button.  On Unix systems, the Control key changes the main
  button to button 2, and the Alt key changes it to button 3.
  On Mac systems, the Option key changes the main button to
  button 2, and the Command key changes it to button 3.
  Pressing the key after the button is held down adds the but-
  ton to form a chord, so that for example on Macs selecting
  text with the trackpad button and then typing Option without
  letting go of the button will cause a 1-2 chord, cutting the
  selection.  On Mac systems, the usual keyboard shortcuts
  Command-C, -V, -X, and -Z invoke copy, paste, cut, and undo,
  and Command-Shift-Z invokes redo, as in other programs.
  Especially on Mac laptops, these keyboard shortcuts are typ-
  ically much less awkward than the equivalent chords.
''

Should be helpful. I use that quite a bit, simply because using the 
additional buttons seems to be along with the rest of the MacOS apps I have to 
use.

Mat

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