[9fans] Re: Mouse advice for Acme
On Feb 28, 6:50 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rodrigo Miranda) wrote: Hi there, I got tired of getting mymouseto be a good citizen when using Acme (both Plan 9 and ACME-SAC on OS X), it is not really working. The problem is that itsmousewheel is a pain to use as a button, and this makes chording and middle-button use very annoying. So I would like to get me a newmouse, and I would like your advice: - It has to work on Mac OS X - It has to be optical (preferrably laser) based tracking - It has to have a USB or (preferrably) radio interface (bluetooth would be great). - It has to be a useable scrolling wheel - All buttons must be clicked confortably (if the wheel is one of the buttons it would be nice for it not to scroll when one is trying to click). Any suggestions? Thanks Rodrigo I think I may have found the next best thing since the ScrollPoint: http://www.askergoworks.com/products/1519/Evoluent-VerticalMouse---Silver-Black.aspx Three... no, five buttons actually, plus the wheel. Mac compatible. Ergonomic.
Re: [9fans] GCC/G++: some stress testing
There was a time when you said template typename x, typename y instead of template class x, class y (Was it TC++PL 2nd edition?) The former is still allowed. It is also used when the context that a variable declaration is in is ambiguous, such as this: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/ pseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.xlcpp8a.doc/language/ref/ keyword_typename.htm On Mar 7, 2008, at 5:21 AM, Russ Cox wrote: PPS: Why is typename a G++ reserved word? [now safely off-topic; sorry] Because it is a C++ reserved word. It gets used in contexts (templates, in particular) where the parser needs extra help deciding that a name is going to be used as a type. Russ
[9fans] bitsy boot problems
I just found two bitsies yesterday, a 3630 and a 3670. I thought I'd try installing on the 3670 because the other one has a useful Linux install on it already. Anyway, both had Linux bootloaders installed already, so I built a kernel and paqdisk, uploaded them, and tried booting. Here's what I get; can anyone help figure out what's wrong here? 206 MHZ ARM, ver 1/part b11/step 8 64M memory: 27M kernel data, 37M user, 226M swap root is from (paq)[paq]: paq...paqfs: sysfatal reading block: /dev/flash/ramdisk: version...panic: boot process died: sys: write on closed pipe pc=0x6c74 panic: boktrace /kernel/path c0010d6c c011714c c01171a9 ot procc01170f8=c0010d68 ess diec01170fc=c0071110 d: sys:c0117104=c003afdc write c0117128=c003b03c on clos ed pipe c0117140=c003b2a0 pc=0x00c0117144=c0010d68 006c74c0117148=c003b2a4 c0117150=c006ddcc c01171b0=c008d9d4 c01171b4=c008d780 c01171bc=c008f5c4 c01171c8=c00795a4 c01171d4=c008d510 c01171d8=c008e740 c01171dc=c008d8d4 c01171e0=c008d510 c01171e8=c008d7bc c01171f4=c008d780 c01171fc=c008f5c4 c0117208=c00795a4 c011721c=c008fa84 c011723c=c00601f8 c0117248=c006b3e0 c0117250=c006b3e8 c011725c=c006dd8c c0117274=c001093c c0117280=c00796c8 c0117284=c0079ba4 c01172ac=c00715e4 c01172b4=c0010920 c01172c8=c001045c c01172e8=c0008248 c01172f0=c0079ba4 it's a wonderful day to die
[9fans] how to access files out of acme-home in acme-sac
Hi, I've just installed acme-sac in my debian box. After the first executing the program, a new directory ~/acme-home is created, which appears to be recognized as /usr/username in acme-sac. I searched the mailing list of acme-sac and found that such a setting exists for security. Then, how can I access other files out of acme-home directory? So that acme-sac could be used as a standalone editor on hosted OS. Thanks. -- HZ
Re: [9fans] An unsuccessful attempt to install on Thinkpad T43
Hello, At last, I installed qemu on my laptop, and built plain9 in this virtual environment. It seems that the performance is yet acceptable. I think, although it is not a perfect solution (I'd like to run plan9 on my laptop natively), it might be an easy and happy one :-) On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you are already running Linux, you may want to consider lguest - it solves the Ethernet problem and does not incur perceivable performance penalties in the T43. -eric -- HZ
Re: [9fans] bitsy boot problems
So FWIW I just told john two things (we work in the unix room here at sandia labs ... we even have a pjw poster). I just get in later because he is the industrious intern and I am the grizzled old guy. First: the boot process is dying. One easy thing to do is set up so that when you boot it drops you into an rc running out of ramdisk, and just poke around, see if you can do things to the disk, run paqfs (can even do it under acid, probably) and so on. You can learn a lot. Second, the usual, debug prints in paqfs ... ron
Re: [9fans] GCC/G++: some stress testing
i don't remember typename and checked my copy of the Bjorne's design and evolution of c++ and it's not there either. apparently it evovled some more. you know you're in trouble when you have to add keywords to help the compiler (not the programmer) There was a time when you said template typename x, typename y instead of template class x, class y (Was it TC++PL 2nd edition?) The former is still allowed. It is also used when the context that a variable declaration is in is ambiguous, such as this: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/ pseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.xlcpp8a.doc/language/ref/ keyword_typename.htm
Re: [9fans] GCC/G++: some stress testing
i don't remember typename and checked my copy of the Bjorne's design and evolution of c++ and it's not there either. apparently it evovled some more. Pity it didn't notice that it was already estinct. Biological evolution at least has some checks and balances, computing evolution instead seems to favour the grossest. ++L
[9fans] Madness (Was: pty attr race/issue)
Extracted from a recent message to NetBSD tech-kern: while working on xen3 xenconsole/xenconsoled I ran into a difference between the linux way of doing pty attributes and ours. Why would Xen need to get involved in PTY mangling? I can just see it: Xen won't run your brand of OS because it does not provide a PTY implementation. That surely narrows the choice somewhat... ++L
Re: [9fans] bitsy boot problems
For some reason, after recompiling stuff (some things hadn't compiled properly at first) and rebuilding the paqdisk (it's now about 6.5MB), when I do load ramdisk xms completes but the ramdisk never gets written to the flash. This is all I see: xms: 6628492 bytes transmitted ! It looks like the ramdisk partition's size is only 0x60, whatever unit that is. If that's in bytes, the newly created paqdisk is too large which could explain the problem. John
Re: [9fans] bitsy boot problems
For some reason, after recompiling stuff (some things hadn't compiled properly at first) and rebuilding the paqdisk (it's now about 6.5MB), when I do load ramdisk xms completes but the ramdisk never gets written to the flash. This is all I see: xms: 6628492 bytes transmitted ! It looks like the ramdisk partition's size is only 0x60, whatever unit that is. If that's in bytes, the newly created paqdisk is too large which could explain the problem. John Forgot that the partition sizes are used by the kernel; I dropped acme, ssh, and winwatch to get the paqdisk under the ramdisk partition size. Now I get as far as root is from: [paq]: paqfs... then sit there forever. Are there any bitsy users out there who have recently recompiled and reinstalled their bitsy stuff? Anybody got a kernel paqdisk that is known to work? John
[9fans] attention - new list address
Friends, the address for this mailing list is going to be changing. Thanks to Russ, we now have 9fans at 9fans.net set up, and current subscriptions migrated. Please give it a try, and bear with us if there are any problems. Thanks also to the psu computer science department for hosting us these many years.
Re: [9fans] attention - new list address
We sign up the usual way? On Mar 7, 2008, at 6:49 PM, Scott Schwartz wrote: Friends, the address for this mailing list is going to be changing. Thanks to Russ, we now have 9fans at 9fans.net set up, and current subscriptions migrated. Please give it a try, and bear with us if there are any problems. Thanks also to the psu computer science department for hosting us these many years.
Re: [9fans] how to access files out of acme-home in acme-sac
Hi, I've just installed acme-sac in my debian box. After the first executing the program, a new directory ~/acme-home is created, which appears to be recognized as /usr/username in acme-sac. I searched the mailing list of acme-sac and found that such a setting exists for security. Then, how can I access other files out of acme-home directory? So that acme-sac could be used as a standalone editor on hosted OS. Your local filesystem should be mounted somewhere inside /n. -- Anant
Re: [9fans] Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Sean Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to introduce myself as a new Plan 9 user; I have been wanting to play with it for years but always resisted polluting my network with x86 equipment.. but now that I took the plunge, I am really enjoying the hell out of it. The simplicity of Plan 9 makes getting my C chops back up to speed honestly a lot of fun; you can actually accomplish something without wasting a lot of time wading through a bunch of crap. That is cool. Now that I have a supported wireless NIC in my laptop (Compaq Evo n410C - perfectly supported, btw) I have been browsing sources/ contrib and checking out some of the apps - abaco and ssh2 in particular. They work pretty well for my purposes (thanks for your work, guys!) I was wondering, though, if there was someplace where I could get the most recent (not plan9ports) abaco sources to peek at? The server, plan9.kicks-ass.org seems to always be down, and all I can find in contrib/fgb is the binary. I'm curious to see how it all goes together. Regards, plan9.kicks-ass.org is a dynamic dns host of fgb, as he is travelling now, it will be down until he goes back to his place. iru
