Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme
How does the optical sun type 7 mouse fit these requirements? I can't tell from the pictures whether the third mouse button is separate from the wheel or not. The description is 3 buttons "with" scroll wheel. That sounds like there are three real buttons but the pictures I've seen look like it is actually 2 buttons plus a middle wheel, like most mice. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:48 AM, Rodrigo Miranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > I got tired of getting my mouse to be a good citizen when using Acme > (both Plan 9 and ACME-SAC on OS X), it is not really working. The > problem is that its mouse wheel is a pain to use as a button, and this > makes chording and middle-button use very annoying. > > So I would like to get me a new mouse, and I would like your advice: > > - It has to work on Mac OS X > - It has to be optical (preferrably laser) based tracking > - It has to have a USB or (preferrably) radio interface (bluetooth > would be great). > - It has to be a useable scrolling wheel > - All buttons must be clicked confortably (if the wheel is one of the > buttons it would be nice for it not to scroll when one is trying to > click). > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > > Rodrigo >
Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme
> At any rate, I had > decided that I preferred scrolling in the discrete steps a mouse wheel > provides vs. trying to gauge how much force to apply to my middle finger > to move the window the desired amount. thanks to russ and rob, plan 9 has a really good solution for that too: $mousescrollsize (see http://9fans.net/archive/2004/10/250 )
Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (andrey mirtchovski) writes: > the original poster asked about OSX and Plan 9, on which the > scrollpoint works quite fine: i've been using one for close to 6 years > now. > >> I have a couple of those, but found I didn't like the scroll knob. >> Under Linux (sorry) at least, it was way too sensitive. I couldn't >> press and release it fast enough to scroll, say, 3-4 lines. Whatever > > yes, it's crap under Linux, but what isn't? ;) there is a solution for > that, but as one would expect, it requires patching the kernel and > recompiling it. It does? I thought the solution was to stop using Linux. Friends don't let friends drive Linux. bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves [EMAIL PROTECTED] | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton |
Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Airports. Remote offices. The gap between the wall and the desk. Hotel rooms. I'm glad the mice are the only thing I seem to lose this way. Paul On 28-Feb-08, at 7:27 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: I ordered an extra 5 a couple of years ago when work got me a system through them; it's almost time to order 5 more. do the cats get them? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHxugXpJeHo/Fbu1wRArigAKCBEpGZWIdHcoFe75D86LQcQ8OwGwCfdOp6 KehVJnTIBLZPBA1aZIm/NJE= =8A3B -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 09:26:39AM -0700, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > the original poster asked about OSX and Plan 9, on which the > scrollpoint works quite fine: i've been using one for close to 6 years > now. Groovy, I was hoping someone would say it worked fine with Plan 9. Just thought I'd point out a possible problem before someone went to the trouble of ordering one. >> I have a couple of those, but found I didn't like the scroll knob. >> Under Linux (sorry) at least, it was way too sensitive. I couldn't >> press and release it fast enough to scroll, say, 3-4 lines. Whatever > > yes, it's crap under Linux, but what isn't? ;) there is a solution for > that, but as one would expect, it requires patching the kernel and > recompiling it. Obviously, I gave up before I found that solution. At any rate, I had decided that I preferred scrolling in the discrete steps a mouse wheel provides vs. trying to gauge how much force to apply to my middle finger to move the window the desired amount. (I expect my middle finger would be in better shape if I drove more instead of taking the bus.)
Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme
> the original poster asked about OSX and Plan 9, on which the > scrollpoint works quite fine: i've been using one for close to 6 years > now. > > > I have a couple of those, but found I didn't like the scroll knob. > > Under Linux (sorry) at least, it was way too sensitive. I couldn't > > press and release it fast enough to scroll, say, 3-4 lines. Whatever > > yes, it's crap under Linux, but what isn't? ;) there is a solution for > that, but as one would expect, it requires patching the kernel and > recompiling it. However, under linux the horizontal scrolling does work as expected/ intended, even without patching/recompiling, which is more than can be said about certain other systems... on OSX interestingly enough some System Preferences settings that are relevant for this mouse are not visible unless eg a mighty mouse is attached. Axel - Mighty cat walks around at home, mighty mouse is boxed unless I have to change settings...
Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme
the original poster asked about OSX and Plan 9, on which the scrollpoint works quite fine: i've been using one for close to 6 years now. > I have a couple of those, but found I didn't like the scroll knob. > Under Linux (sorry) at least, it was way too sensitive. I couldn't > press and release it fast enough to scroll, say, 3-4 lines. Whatever yes, it's crap under Linux, but what isn't? ;) there is a solution for that, but as one would expect, it requires patching the kernel and recompiling it.
Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 08:26:21AM -0700, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > standard suggestion is the ibm scrollpoint. three buttons and a more > ergonomic scrolling interface than the wheel: > > http://web.mit.edu/atic/www/images/mice/ibm.jpg I have a couple of those, but found I didn't like the scroll knob. Under Linux (sorry) at least, it was way too sensitive. I couldn't press and release it fast enough to scroll, say, 3-4 lines. Whatever I was looking at would go wooshing around the window, and then I'd have to track it back down. I spent a bit of time trying to find a way to slow it down, but gave up. Went back to my good old Logitech S35 3-button. Sorry, no lasers, no LEDs even. (Optical mice are for people who don't wash their hands.)
Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme
> > I ordered an extra 5 a couple of years ago when work got me a system > > through them; it's almost time to order 5 more. > > do the cats get them? > my rabbit got two last month. it's those t-t-teeth. - erik
Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme
standard suggestion is the ibm scrollpoint. three buttons and a more ergonomic scrolling interface than the wheel: http://web.mit.edu/atic/www/images/mice/ibm.jpg
Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme
> I ordered an extra 5 a couple of years ago when work got me a system > through them; it's almost time to order 5 more. do the cats get them?
Re: [9fans] Mouse advice for Acme
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I really like Dell's base model optical mouse. Big scroll wheel that's stiff enough not to roll when I middle-click. I ordered an extra 5 a couple of years ago when work got me a system through them; it's almost time to order 5 more. Paul On 28-Feb-08, at 3:48 AM, Rodrigo Miranda wrote: Hi there, I got tired of getting my mouse to be a good citizen when using Acme (both Plan 9 and ACME-SAC on OS X), it is not really working. The problem is that its mouse wheel is a pain to use as a button, and this makes chording and middle-button use very annoying. So I would like to get me a new mouse, and I would like your advice: - It has to work on Mac OS X - It has to be optical (preferrably laser) based tracking - It has to have a USB or (preferrably) radio interface (bluetooth would be great). - It has to be a useable scrolling wheel - All buttons must be clicked confortably (if the wheel is one of the buttons it would be nice for it not to scroll when one is trying to click). Any suggestions? Thanks Rodrigo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHxtGlpJeHo/Fbu1wRAiJyAKDfBWObskPMVlMKeL9hkrVlbqC3lACgkr+H REfUjesjfeE7wlEMO8MhZ4c= =DZWq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[9fans] Mouse advice for Acme
Hi there, I got tired of getting my mouse to be a good citizen when using Acme (both Plan 9 and ACME-SAC on OS X), it is not really working. The problem is that its mouse wheel is a pain to use as a button, and this makes chording and middle-button use very annoying. So I would like to get me a new mouse, and I would like your advice: - It has to work on Mac OS X - It has to be optical (preferrably laser) based tracking - It has to have a USB or (preferrably) radio interface (bluetooth would be great). - It has to be a useable scrolling wheel - All buttons must be clicked confortably (if the wheel is one of the buttons it would be nice for it not to scroll when one is trying to click). Any suggestions? Thanks Rodrigo
