Re: [A51] Table distribution

2010-07-26 Thread Doktor Jeep 

Decentralization is the key to survival in asymmetric warfare. 

 

 


 
 From: philist...@gmail.com
 To: a51@lists.reflextor.com
 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:11:31 +0200
 Subject: Re: [A51] Table distribution
 
 I agree with Lubomir Schmidt. Usenet is not necessary.. There are
 various free alternatives like Torrents, Private/University-Servers and
 Wuala. Maybe it's best we use all three possibilities.
 
 But please, no solutions where you have to pay money for getting access
 to the files.
 
 On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 14:21 +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
 wrote:
  Usenet is so cheap tho... it's like £5-10 for a month (check out
  Giganews)... I've used it for like 2-3 years now.. Perhaps it could be
  a joint effort... Usenet + Wuala + Torrent??
  
  On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Lubomir Schmidt
  gentoo.lubo...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Usenet costs money... i did not like to spend any money for
  just sharing data...
  
  What is also possible is Wuala. With one computer you can get
  100GB
  free online storage. When we all make an a51 group, every one
  of us
  could share for free the data.
  
  I use wuala for linux distribution development(internal
  developer
  group) and share(no traffic limits) and it is great :)
  
  I also prefere the server from Axel with 1GB/s and 10TB
  storage :)
  
  please no usenet...
  
  2010/7/25 Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
  cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk:
  
   Usenet is a good idea :)
  
   On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Dinos Pastos
  dino...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   If it was to be uploaded, I suggest Usenet servers where
  the retention
   is massive and anonymous
  
   On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Lubomir Schmidt
   gentoo.lubo...@googlemail.com wrote:
And in germany i could get 2tb discs for about
  122USD(94,50€) and an
external case for about 10USD
   
Should we not just make torrents? I could upload at the
  moment with
~100mbit. That would be the much cheaper and easy way.
   
2010/7/24 GeleGrodan gelegro...@gmail.com:
Those 2TB disks you speak of, are they internal or
  external?
   
If you speak about external, I guess the price isnt
  better over here in
Sweden:
   
External 2TB - ca 182USD
Internal 2TB - ca 142USD
External case - 41USD (USB 2.0/eSATA)
   
+Shipping
   
Dont know what the shipping costs, what do you pay
  Peter?
   
   
   
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 20:54, Peter Stuge
  pe...@stuge.se wrote:
   
Frank A. Stevenson wrote:
 I have gotten several requests for having disks
  shipped, payed for
 with PayPal. I am not sure I really trust this
  company to not
 freeze the accounts if someone complains
   
I think that's wise.
   
   
 ext3 preformatted 2TB disks. I should be able to
  deliver these at
 cost for ~250 USD, this includes Norwegian sales tax
  (25%) which I
 haven't found a way to defray. But perhaps someone on
  the list could
 do better than this and set up shop in a country
  where overall costs
 are lower?
   
Since Norway is outside the EU you'll mostly be
  exporting, and
shouldn't charge sales tax. Buyers will likely have to
  pay import
duties.
   
   
 And ideally, quality packaging materials are readily
  available :-)
 (We have already suffer 1 unfortunate disk crash)
   
Suggest ship out by courier (I like UPS) and for
  packaging materials
see if the store can ship to you (or whoever does this)
  with some
extra packaging.
   
   
//Peter
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Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU

2010-07-26 Thread Doktor Jeep 

For those of us who have more old boards and CPUs laying about, what are the 
chances of a distributed computing application?

 


 
 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:11:54 +0200
 From: sascha.kriss...@web.de
 To: a51@lists.reflextor.com
 Subject: Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU
 
 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:00:54PM +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] 
 wrote:
  This might be a silly question but..
  
  If there was a miscalculation due to hardware, would you be able to detect
  such an occurrence, and re-process that calc again?
  
 
 There is no obvious way to add some form of checksumming to the algorithm.
 The next best thing would be to compute every chain twice. Which is what
 i do during testing (and also with 2 different algos, one on the GPU and
 a reference on the CPU) and would be feasible if you cared for correctness.
 But then again even with a 1% error rate you would not do this for the
 rainbow tables, because the incorrect chains cannot lead to incorrect
 results and would only waste some space and some time during lookup when
 the lookup code works with them until they turn out not to produce
 a result. Then you would produce 1.01% more chains and live happily ever
 after.
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