That's somewhere near where I was a week or few ago. I'm not sure it's
enough.
The question is "what's in the standard set?". I had (from memory) major,
minor, diminished, augmented, 6th, seventh, major seventh, ninth, just (the
root), just (root and fifth) and a mechanism for adding an extra bass note.
I also suggested a mechanism to allow people to define extra chords.
Frank Nordberg replied to the effect that I was disabling ABC for all jazz
guitarists. (Now as it happens I don't like listening to jazz guitar, but
sssh! Don't tell). I very definitely don't want to do anything to stop
them from doing their thing, and that includes doing it with ABC. (The
Internet is a big place. None of them have said that I have to listen to
their music, so I wanna be friends).
As you may gather from the above I am not a jazz guitarist.
I don't know whether C7(9)+13 is gibberish or meaningful or, if meaningful,
what it might mean. I just know that there are people (including Frank) who
need things which (to my eye) look like that and I think BUT DON'T KNOW (I
floated it here and Frank didn't reply) that the extension mechanism that I
had proposed was inadequate because it would in effect have meant either
including a "boiler plate" of thousands of chords at the start of every jazz
guitar file or else writing out a definition of (almost) every chord to be
used. So I think he wanted a language which in effect put just about
anything one could dream of in the starter set. I hope some time tomorrow
to look through Mike Whitaker's the language proposal again, but I am in no
position to judge it.
FRANK ARE YOU THERE??? Neither I nor any other non-jazz guitarist can speak
for you. I *did* read what you said. I think I see your point. I can
*not* do anything about it on my own. If neither you nor anyone else who is
into jazz speaks up then we *will* get something that will work for the rest
of us and whether it will work for you will be a matter of luck.
Laurie
- Original Message -
From: Wil Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [abcusers] Chord notation
How's this?
- People can, and will put anything in between quotes. A notation program
will at a minimum place exactly what was written in between the quotes in
the standard
place
for guitar chords for that program.
- Programs which support placement modifiers ("_","^","","") will use them
consistently
to mean
below, above, to the left and to the right of the staff symbol.
- Programs which support transposition of chords will clearly document the
chords that
can
be transposed (so people can clean up afterwards)
- programs which support sound output will support a standard set of chords
that can be unambiguously documented. At a minimum a chord which is not
recognized can be played as the root (or silence?)
- programs may support other syntaxes of chords (not in the standard set) by
assigning documented synonyms to the standard set. [someday we may
standardize the syntax
for defining chords and assigning synonyms, but that can wait]
Mike Whitaker wrote:
On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 05:34:23PM +0100, Frank Nordberg wrote:
Example:
The chord C E G Bb D
is notated:
C9
If we want to sharpen the 9th, we can just add a + in front of it:
C+9
I';d further note that I just showed my wife this mail, without
any prompting bar 'what's that chord' and her reaction (she's a
keys player) was "C augmented 9th", i.e C E *G#* Bb D".
Can we just abandon the idea of "+" and "-", please? It is TOO ambiguous,
as I keep saying. There are no problems with # and b that cannot
demonstrably
be resolved with judicious use of brackets.
From my test harness for parsechord:
mike@andor:~$ ./parsechord 'C(#9)'
C E G Bb D#
mike@andor:~$ ./parsechord 'C#9'
C# E# G# B D#
mike@andor:~$ ./parsechord 'Caug9'
C E G# Bb D
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