[abcusers] RE: abcusers-digest V1 #512
Shingly Beach ... I have a number of version of this on my home computer - can supply in ABC - multipart or arrangement ... and will post tonight - OK Jon McNamara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 June 2001 05:36 Subject: abcusers-digest V1 #512 This message uses a character set that is not supported by the Internet Service. To view the original message content, open the attached message. If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to disk, and then open it using a viewer that can display the original character set. Received: from ukz591.ggr.co.uk ([147.184.226.249]) by ukz793.ggr.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2652.39) id M61791Y2; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 06:22:13 +0100 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk (unverified) by ukz591.ggr.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 06:14:22 +0100 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gb-stv-fw2.ggr.co.uk [147.184.36.10]) by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 06:20:56 +0100 (BST) Received: (uucp@localhost) by gate.ggr.co.uk; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 06:21:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from nm195.netaddress.usa.net(204.68.24.95) by gb-stv-fw2.ggr.co.uk via smap (V5.5) id xma014018; Wed, 27 Jun 01 06:21:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 13370 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jun 2001 05:20:33 - Received: from nwcst276 [204.68.23.21] by nm195 via mtad (34FM.0700.19.01A) with ESMTP id 422FFAFuf0815M19; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:20:31 GMT Received: from argyll.wisemagic.com [207.136.137.70] by nwcst276 via mtad (34FM.0700.19.01A); Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:20:31 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by argyll.wisemagic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA17287 for abcusers-digest-outgoing; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:35:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:35:56 -0700 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Authentication-Warning: argyll.wisemagic.com: majordomo set sender to owner-abcusers-digest@ using -f From: (abcusers-digest) Subject: abcusers-digest V1 #512 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit abcusers-digest Tuesday, June 26 2001 Volume 01 : Number 512 -- Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:44:30 +0200 From: Atte =?iso-8859-1?q?Andr=E9=20Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [abcusers] band in a abc-box Just noodled around with my old band-in-a-box, and searched the web for some clones running under Linux, but without luck. Does anybody know if such a beast is out there??? And if not maybe some of the existing abc-tools could be merges/enhanced/comtrolled to do a similar job - of course one would have to write the controlling style-code... Don't shoot me, I'm just thinking aloud on a quiet list. - -- Atte To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:51:15 +0200 From: Gianni Cunich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] MIDI cat ? On 25/06/01 at 18.24 Ronan KERYELL wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:57:17 +0200, Bert Van Vreckem [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Bert You're abusing the X: field for something it isn't designed Bert for. Sure. :-) Bert In an abc file, an X: field marks the start of a new tune Bert that is independent of the other tunes. To split up a tune in Bert several parts, you should use the P: field. I do also inside of each X: tune. Bert What is your rationale to use X: instead of P: to split a single Bert tune in different parts? You cannot specify a different title, source, author,... to the P: part. But what we play for example in Breton suites are a link of different tunes from various origins. abc2ps is OK with that but not abc2midi. I could also add an option to abc2midi to skip the tune separation... Hey, what about using T: fields in the tune body to specify different titles? As far as the abc standard is concerned, thet's legal! And you could use the A., C:, S:.. fileds in the header to pack the infos related to the different tunes in the suite...something like this: X:1 T:Suite T:1 T:2 T:3 C:1:composer, 2 Composer, 3 composer M: L*** K*** T:1 body T:2 body T:3 body Not sure about what you could obtain from abc2midi, I've never tried anything like this! Yet, as far as it follows the standard, it should be able to give you one single midi file for a whole suite (set, medley... call like you like it) of tunes. By the way, I actually share the belief you are abusing the P: field, Ronan. To say better, I think you are abusing the P: field the wrong way! ; -) The correct way to abuse the P: field, I dare say, is to use it in the
[abcusers] abc home page now the top ranking music notation site on Google
A sign of the ever-growing popularity of abc on the net? http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Multimedia/Music_and_Audio/Software/Notation/ Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] abc home page now the top ranking music notation site on Google
Phil Taylor wrote: A sign of the ever-growing popularity of abc on the net? http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Multimedia/Music_and_Audio/Software/Notation/ Maybe, but I also notice that Finale is the only program that has its own subcategory. Maybe somebody here would to volunteer as the editor for a new ABC category at Open Directory? Frank Nordberg To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] HARMONY
Just got this e mail, and thought somebody here might be interested. --- Neil Jennings wrote: Hi, You don't seem to have my program HARMONY on your list. Its main claim to fame is the ability to add chords to tunes, but it can also import and export MIDI and abc (with some restrictions) and create tablature for freed reed instruments such as Melodeon and Concertina. It can also create jigs and reels (sometimes passable) by random generation. It can be found at www.greenhedges.com, and my preferred email for that purpose is [e mail address omitted], not this temporary one from which I am mailing you. Neil Jennings -- Part of the Halifax Group, Halifax plc, Registered in England No. 2367076. Registered Office: Trinity Road, Halifax, West Yorkshire HX1 2RG. Represents only the Halifax Financial Services Marketing Group for the purposes of advising on and selling life assurance, pensions and unit trust business. The Marketing Group is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Switchboard 01422 33. == To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] abc home page now the top ranking music notation site on Google
Phil == Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil A sign of the ever-growing popularity of abc on the net? Phil http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Multimedia/Music_and_Audio/Software/Notation/ Phil is too modest to mention it, but Barfly is eleventh on the list. Abc2win is 22nd. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Shingly Beach...s
I don't know how good the ABC is - I can play these in ABCMUS but not in ABC2WIN - so something is strange somewhere - if anyone knows what I'm doing wrong - I love to know! For the record: input into mozart 5, exported - midi, imported - Melody Assistant and saved as ABC. (Note: I know this isn't using the ABC system as it should be - it just happens to be the way the tune was handled!) Two versions 1: for three instruments 2: for one solo instrument eg English Concertina THe display below seems to be double spaced ... again I don't know why! Still maybe the music will work for someone - and maybe someone much wiser than me will tell me how to make a printout from ABC2WIN.On the other hand - if no-one elase has a problem ... maybe I need tolook at my copy of ABC2WIN! - good luck Jon McNamara %!HARMONY ABC @ %Harmony/Melody File to ABC Vers 2.7 April 1998-March 2001 %Written by Guillion Bros. on a Chris Walshaw format %Please e-mail us your comments and bugs reports ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) %Wednesday, June 27, 2001 17:23:11 X:1 T:Shingly Beach C:Tom Andeson M:4/4 L:1/8 Q:1/4=120 %Tempo K:G %!STAVE 0 'Piano 1' @ %!INSTR 'Piano 1 [Ch1]' 0 0 @ M:4/4 %Meter L:1/8 % K:G z7 D |G4 c4 |Bd cA F2 D2 |G2 Bd E2 Ac | D2 FA C2 FA |G4 c4 |B2 AG A2 D2 |G2 B2 E2 A2 | D2 GF G4 |z7 D |G4 c4 |Bd cA F2 D2 | G2 Bd E2 Ac |D2 FA C2 FA |G4 c4 |B2 AG A2 D2 | G2 B2 E2 A2 |D2 GF G4 |d2 cB c2 f2 |g2 dB c2 d2 | B2 d2 A2 c2 |B2 AG A2 c2 |d2 cB c2 f2 |g2 dB c2 d2 | cB AG E2 A2 |D2 GF G3 e |d2 cB c2 f2 |g2 dB c2 d2 | B2 d2 A2 c2 |B2 AG A2 D2 |G4 c4 |Bd cA F2 D2 | G2 B2 E2 A2 |D2 GF G4 |] V:2 % %!STAVE 0 'Piano 1' @ %!INSTR 'Piano 1 [Ch1]' 0 0 @ M:4/4 %Meter L:1/8 % K:G z7 D |G4 G2 F2 |GB AF D2 C2 |B,4 C4 | D4 A,4 |D4 G2 F2 |G2 D2 F2 C2 |B,4 C4 | D2 D2 G4 |z7 D |G4 G2 F2 |GB AF D2 C2 | B,4 C4 |D4 A,4 |D4 G2 F2 |G2 D2 F2 C2 | B,4 C4 |D2 D2 G4 |B2 AG A2 d2 |d2 BG A2 A2 | G2 F2 E2 E2 |D2 CB, C2 D2 |B2 AG A2 d2 |d2 BG FE DF | G4 C4 |D2 F2 G3 c |B2 AG A2 dc |BA G2 A2 A2 | G2 F2 E2 E2 |D2 FE D2 C2 |D4 G2 F2 |GB AF D2 C2 | B,4 C4 |D2 GF G4 |] V:3 % %!STAVE 0 'Piano 1' @ %!INSTR 'Piano 1 [Ch1]' 0 0 @ M:4/4 %Meter L:1/8 % K:G z8 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 |G4 C4 | D4 D4 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 |G4 C4 | D2 F2 G4 |z8 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 | G4 C4 |D4 D4 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 | G4 C4 |D2 F2 G4 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 | G4 C4 |D4 D4 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 | G4 C4 |D2 F2 G4 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 | G4 C4 |D4 F4 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 | G4 C4 |D2 F2 G4 |] %End of file %!HARMONY ABC @ %Harmony/Melody File to ABC Vers 2.7 April 1998-March 2001 %Written by Guillion Bros. on a Chris Walshaw format %Please e-mail us your comments and bugs reports ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) %Wednesday, June 27, 2001 17:27:55 X:1 T:Shingly Beach %Tune name C:Tom Anderson %Tune composer M:4/4 L:1/8 Q:1/4=100 %Tempo K:G %!STAVE 0 'Bassoon' @ %!INSTR 'Bassoon [Ch1]' 0 7000 @ M:4/4 %Meter L:1/8 % K:G z7 D |[G4D4B,4G,4] [c4G4E4C4] |Bd cA [F2C2] D2 |G2 Bd E2 Ac | D2 FA C2 FA |[G4D4B,4G,4] [c4G4E4C4] |[B2G2D2] AG [A2F2] D2 |G2 B2 E2 A2 | [D2B,2] G[FD] [G4D4B,4G,4] |[G4D4B,4G,4] [c4G4E4C4] |Bd cA [F2C2] D2 |G2 Bd E2 Ac | D2 FA C2 FA |[G4D4B,4G,4] [c4G4E4C4] |[B2G2D2] AG [A2F2] D2 |G2 B2 E2 A2 | [D2B,2] G[FD] [G4D4B,4G,4] |d2 cB [c2A2] [f2d2] |[g2d2B2G2] dB [c2G2E2] d2 |[B2G2] d2 [A2F2] c2 | [B2G2D2] AG [A2F2] c2 |[d2A2F2] cB [c2G2E2] [f2c2] |[g2d2B2G2] dB [c2G2E2] d2 |cB AG E2 A2 | [D2B,2] G[FD] [G3D3B,3] e |d2 cB [c2G2E2] [f2d2] |[g2d2B2G2] dB [c2G2E2] d2 |[B2G2D2] d2 [A2F2] c2 | [B2G2D2] AG [A2F2] D2 |[G4D4B,4G,4] [c4G4E4C4] |[BG]d cA [F2C2] D2 |[G2D2] B2 E2 A2 | [D2B,2] G[FD] [G4D4B,4G,4] |] V:2 % %!STAVE 0 'Bassoon' @ %!INSTR 'Bassoon [Ch1]' 0 7000 @ M:4/4 %Meter L:1/8 % K:G z8 |z8 |z8 |B,4 C4 | B,4 A,4 |z8 |z8 |B,4 C4 | z8 |z8 |z8 |B,4 C4 | B,4 A,4 |z8 |z8 |B,4 C4 | z8 |z8 |z8 |z8 | z8 |z8 |z8 |z4 C4 | z8 |z8 |z8 |z8 | z8 |z8 |z8 |B,4 C4 |] %End of file
Re: [abcusers] Shingly Beach...s
Jon McNamara wrote: Part 1.1Type: Plain Text (text/plain) Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know how good the ABC is - I can play these in ABCMUS but not in ABC2WIN - so something is strange somewhere - if anyone knows what I'm doing wrong - I love to know! (...) THe display below seems to be double spaced ... again I don't know why! Simon: I think a double spaced abc text cannot work at all since an empty line marks the end of a tune in abc format, for getting it working maybe just remove the empty lines. Jon McNamara wrote: (...) X:1 T:Shingly Beach C:Tom Andeson M:4/4 L:1/8 Q:1/4=120 %Tempo K:G %!STAVE 0 'Piano 1' @ %!INSTR 'Piano 1 [Ch1]' 0 0 @ M:4/4 %Meter L:1/8 % K:G z7 D |G4 c4 |Bd cA F2 D2 |G2 Bd E2 Ac | D2 FA C2 FA | (...) To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Shingly Beach...s
Great tune. Melody Assistant's abc output is a little eccentric, so I've edited it a bit. This is what I had to do to make it work in BarFly. 1. Remove the double spacing. 2. Remove all the extra M:,L: and K: fields, as well as the %!STAVE and %!INSTR stuff. 3. Insert a V:1 field before the first voice X:1 T:Shingly Beach C:Tom Anderson M:4/4 L:1/8 Q:1/4=120 K:G V:1 z7 D |G4 c4 |Bd cA F2 D2 |G2 Bd E2 Ac | D2 FA C2 FA |G4 c4 |B2 AG A2 D2 |G2 B2 E2 A2 | D2 GF G4 |z7 D |G4 c4 |Bd cA F2 D2 | G2 Bd E2 Ac |D2 FA C2 FA |G4 c4 |B2 AG A2 D2 | G2 B2 E2 A2 |D2 GF G4 |d2 cB c2 f2 |g2 dB c2 d2 | B2 d2 A2 c2 |B2 AG A2 c2 |d2 cB c2 f2 |g2 dB c2 d2 | cB AG E2 A2 |D2 GF G3 e |d2 cB c2 f2 |g2 dB c2 d2 | B2 d2 A2 c2 |B2 AG A2 D2 |G4 c4 |Bd cA F2 D2 | G2 B2 E2 A2 |D2 GF G4 |] V:2 z7 D |G4 G2 F2 |GB AF D2 C2 |B,4 C4 | D4 A,4 |D4 G2 F2 |G2 D2 F2 C2 |B,4 C4 | D2 D2 G4 |z7 D |G4 G2 F2 |GB AF D2 C2 | B,4 C4 |D4 A,4 |D4 G2 F2 |G2 D2 F2 C2 | B,4 C4 |D2 D2 G4 |B2 AG A2 d2 |d2 BG A2 A2 | G2 F2 E2 E2 |D2 CB, C2 D2 |B2 AG A2 d2 |d2 BG FE DF | G4 C4 |D2 F2 G3 c |B2 AG A2 dc |BA G2 A2 A2 | G2 F2 E2 E2 |D2 FE D2 C2 |D4 G2 F2 |GB AF D2 C2 | B,4 C4 |D2 GF G4 |] V:3 z8 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 |G4 C4 | D4 D4 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 |G4 C4 | D2 F2 G4 |z8 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 | G4 C4 |D4 D4 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 | G4 C4 |D2 F2 G4 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 | G4 C4 |D4 D4 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 | G4 C4 |D2 F2 G4 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 | G4 C4 |D4 F4 |G4 D4 |G4 D4 | G4 C4 |D2 F2 G4 |] At this stage it will play OK, but BarFly won't display it as music unless the lines are interleaved with one another, so I used the Format abc command to do that. The first part has a written-out repeat, with a long rest in between, so I edited that out: X:3 T:Shingly Beach C:Tom Anderson M:4/4 L:1/8 Q:1/4=120 K:G V:1 D | G4 c4| Bd cA F2 D2 | G2 Bd E2 Ac | D2 FA C2 FA | V:2 D | G4 G2 F2 | GB AF D2 C2 | B,4 C4| D4A,4 | V:3 z | G4 D4| G4D4| G4C4| D4D4| % V:1 G4 c4| B2 AG A2 D2 | G2 B2 E2 A2 |[1 D2 GF G3 :|[2 D2 GF G4 || V:2 D4 G2 F2 | G2 D2 F2 C2 | B,4 C4|[1 D2 D2 G3 :|[2 D2 D2 G4 || V:3 G4 D4| G4D4| G4C4|[1 D2 F2 G3 :|[2 D2 F2 G4 || % V:1 d2 cB c2 f2 | g2 dB c2 d2 | B2 d2 A2 c2 | B2 AG A2 c2 | d2 cB c2 f2 | V:2 B2 AG A2 d2 | d2 BG A2 A2 | G2 F2 E2 E2 | D2 CB, C2 D2 | B2 AG A2 d2 | V:3 G4D4| G4D4| G4C4| D4 D4| G4D4| % V:1 g2 dB c2 d2 | cB AG E2 A2 | D2 GF G3 e | d2 cB c2 f2 | g2 dB c2 d2 | V:2 d2 BG FE DF | G4C4| D2 F2 G3 c | B2 AG A2 dc | BA G2 A2 A2 | V:3 G4D4| G4C4| D2 F2 G4 | G4D4| G4D4| % V:1 B2 d2 A2 c2 | B2 AG A2 D2 | G4 c4 | Bd cA F2 D2 | G2 B2 E2 A2| D2 GF G4 |] V:2 G2 F2 E2 E2 | D2 FE D2 C2 | D4 G2 F2| GB AF D2 C2 | B,4 C4 | D2 GF G4 |] V:3 G4C4| D4F4| G4 D4 | G4D4| G4C4 | D2 F2 G4 |] This is fine for BarFly, but other programs don't like having the V: fields on the same line as the music, so I fixed that. It's much less readable, but should work in most programs: X:4 T:Shingly Beach C:Tom Anderson M:4/4 L:1/8 Q:1/4=120 K:G V:1 D | G4 c4 | Bd cA F2 D2 | G2 Bd E2 Ac | D2 FA C2 FA | V:2 D | G4 G2 F2 | GB AF D2 C2 | B,4 C4 | D4 A,4 | V:3 z | G4 D4 | G4 D4 | G4 C4 | D4 D4 | % V:1 G4 c4 | B2 AG A2 D2 | G2 B2 E2 A2 |[1 D2 GF G3 :| [2 D2 GF G4 || V:2 D4 G2 F2 | G2 D2 F2 C2 | B,4 C4 |[1 D2 D2 G3 :| [2 D2 D2 G4 || V:3 G4 D4 | G4 D4 | G4 C4 |[1 D2 F2 G3 :| [2 D2 F2 G4 || % V:1 d2 cB c2 f2 | g2 dB c2 d2 | B2 d2 A2 c2 | B2 AG A2 c2 | d2 cB c2 f2 | V:2 B2 AG A2 d2 | d2 BG A2 A2 | G2 F2 E2 E2 | D2 CB, C2 D2 | B2 AG A2 d2 | V:3 G4 D4 | G4 D4 | G4 C4 | D4 D4 | G4 D4 | % V:1 g2 dB c2 d2 | cB AG E2 A2 | D2 GF G3 e | d2 cB c2 f2 | g2 dB c2 d2 | V:2 d2 BG FE DF | G4 C4 | D2 F2 G3 c | B2 AG A2 dc | BA G2 A2 A2 | V:3 G4 D4 | G4 C4 | D2 F2 G4 | G4 D4 | G4 D4 | % V:1 B2 d2 A2 c2 | B2 AG A2 D2 | G4 c4 | Bd cA F2 D2 | G2 B2 E2 A2 |D2 GF G4 |] V:2 G2 F2 E2 E2 | D2 FE D2 C2 | D4 G2 F2 | GB AF D2 C2 | B,4 C4 |D2 GF G4 |] V:3 G4 C4 | D4 F4 | G4 D4 | G4 D4 | G4 C4 |D2 F2 G4 |] I don't know whether abc2win can deal with this, but it should work in most abc programs. Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] top ranking music notation site
Phil Taylor - A sign of the ever-growing popularity of abc on the net? I don't quite think so. It might mean there more people are arguing over how to use it than there are people using it. Seems likely. Flos PS I tried the original double-spaced version of Shingly Beach in ABC2win, and it worked fine for me. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
