Re: [abcusers] ps viewer on windows?

2003-08-27 Thread John Fattaruso
See http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/

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OK, this feels like a serious bonehead question for me, but I'm usually a linux user, and I'm trying to get abcm2ps running on the WinXP side of my dual boot machine (WinXP Home - out-of-the-box version).  I tried installing ghostscript, but it doesn't work.  All I want to do is see the postscript files generated by abcm2ps.  What do other Windows users use (and don't tell me ABC2Win, 'cause that's no good for me)?

Thanks,
Chris
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[abcusers] Version 2.0.0 voice overlay and lyrics

2003-07-24 Thread John Fattaruso
I have a question/suggestion about the new 2.0.0 standard. (Forgive me 
if this topic has been covered recently; I'm just back from a European 
choral tour, and I couldn't keep up with all the discussion over laptop 
dialup.)

As someone primarily interested in typesetting choral music, I was very 
interested in the voice overlay capability with the '' syntax that 
emerged in abcm2ps some time ago. Many times in choral music we will 
have a vocal line splitting into two or three lines for only a few 
measures here and there, and abc shouldn't require defining a whole 
different voice for just those few measures.

I did not see any mention of this capability in the new 2.0.0 standard, 
however. Maybe I missed it?

Furthermore, it is not uncommon that when a vocal line temporarily 
splits into subvoices, that the pronounciation of lyrics in each of the 
subvoices will use slightly different rhythms. The '' character is not 
currently defined as a separator character in a lyric specification. Is 
it possible to define the '' for lyrics, in a manner similar to the 
note voice overlay, to generate a retrace back to the previous bar line, 
and allow multiple passes of lyrics through a bar that would be lined up 
with the multiple voice overlays? For each pass through the bar, the 
successive lines of lyrics would have to be offset vertically like what 
is done with successive verses.

John

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Re: [abcusers] Version 2.0.0 voice overlay and lyrics

2003-07-24 Thread John Fattaruso
John Chambers wrote:
One thought: At least with keyboard music, what you have is
a  transient  voice  that  isn't  a  true voice, but just
appears for a brief time and then  fades  away.   Maybe  we
could use a single voice, and flag the transient voice with
something like a '+' to mean Add this to the voice.   The
recent example then might look like:
[V:1] | A2 E2 G2 A2 | A B c d e f g  a | g2 f2 e2 a2 |]
[V:1+]| | A A A A A A A  A |
[V:1+]| | A G F E D C B, A,|
The [V:1+] notation  would  mean  to  add  these  into  the
previous  staff as part of V:1.  You could use | as much as
needed to get the bars aligned correctly, as is done in  w:
lines to skip to the next bar.
Would this solve the problem?  It would take a bit of  work
to implement, but probably no more than the '' approach. I
think it could be made a lot more readable,  too,  as  this
simple  example  shows.  In most cases, I suppose you would
only need one such extra line, to add in the notes that are
difficult to put in the [V:1] line.
OK, but what I was trying to get a reaction to initially was allowing 
whatever syntax triggers overlays of notes to similarly trigger an overlay 
in the corresponding lyrics in the w: line. I am currently up against this 
limitation in abcm2ps trying to typeset a choral piece where there are the 
four SATB parts through the entire piece, but only in the last three or 
four measures the bass part splits into bass I and bass II, with slightly 
different rhythms for the lyrics.

John F.

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Re: [abcusers] RE : suggested patch for abcm2ps-2.11.3

2002-07-27 Thread John Fattaruso

I finally figured this out. Buried in the changelog for abcm2ps versions
3.0.13 and later is the line:

Move some non-standard decorations to deco.abc.

I hope this isn't old news to most of this list, but for anyone needing
!mp! and other non-standard decorations, it is necessary to copy the file
deco.abc to your music directory and strip off the last several lines of
demonstration abc code. Then use abcpp to #include deco.abc in any .abc
file that needs !mp!. It is also easy to define your own custom decorations
in your local deco.abc file copy. Now I can finally upgrade to version
3.1.0.

JF

Eric Galluzzo wrote:
 
 Well, I can't claim to know why it disappeared, but oddly enough, !mp!
 is missing from the 1.7 draft standard.  All the others are there (!ppp!
 through !fff!), but !mp! is missing.
 
 - Eric
 
 On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 11:16, John Fattaruso wrote:
 
  There is now a version 3.1.0 available on http://moinejf.free.fr/, which I
  just downloaded and built. It has my page numbering patch in it, but still
  no !mp! decorations. I need !mp! for my choral music, and I can't figure
  out why it dissappeared from version 3. The version 2 changelog has it
  appearing back in 2.2.7, and it is nicely handled in deco.c of 2.11.3, but
  not in deco.c of 3.1.0, and running 3.1.0 gives error messages. So I guess
  I'll be using the older version for now.
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Re: [abcusers] RE : suggested patch for abcm2ps-2.11.3

2002-07-24 Thread John Fattaruso

Forgeot Eric wrote:
 
 First, abcm2ps is now at version 3.0.20 (at least) !! Is this
 2.11.3 version from the sourceforce.net ? The last time I checked
 the abc.sf.net page (recently) I saw there was still a very old
 release (can't remember the number). Such a pity. There should be
 just a link to http://moinejf.free.fr and the outdated files
 should be deleted.
 You should check it, there is much improvement ! Or maybe the
 2.11.3 is the lastest stable version but I find the 3.0.20 as
 stable.

 Your contribution has been welcomed and used because it is said :
 
  Version 3.0.20 - 02/07/14 
 '-N' command line option extension (thanks to John Fattaruso).

Thanks for the pointer, Eric. The 2.11.3 version is from
http://moinejf.free.fr/, and listed there as the last stable release.
Actually, I wasn't even aware of the abc.sf.net page. The links on the
abcplus homepage, http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/, only supply precompiled
binaries for Windoze. (I am currently working on my Windoze box because I
upgraded my Linux box to Mandrake 8.2 and can't get anything related to
MIDI working on it.) The links on http://moinejf.free.fr/ contain tarballs
of source files along with a makefile for MinGW, and that's what I've been
working with. I just failed to check that page for updated versions, as I
thought there would be some offline discussion before my patch got
assimilated.

There is now a version 3.1.0 available on http://moinejf.free.fr/, which I
just downloaded and built. It has my page numbering patch in it, but still
no !mp! decorations. I need !mp! for my choral music, and I can't figure
out why it dissappeared from version 3. The version 2 changelog has it
appearing back in 2.2.7, and it is nicely handled in deco.c of 2.11.3, but
not in deco.c of 3.1.0, and running 3.1.0 gives error messages. So I guess
I'll be using the older version for now.

 
 In fact since I need to have the page numbers at the bottom, I
 find conveniant to use the perl script pspage done by Christoph
 Dalitz.
 
Thanks, I'll check this out. I initially thought I'd add some options for
page numbering at the bottom as well, but that would collide with the
footer facility in abcm2ps, and virtually all of the choral scores I am
trying to emulate use numbering at the top anyway.

John
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