Re: [abcusers] ABC as Tablature; being my entry in the ObfuscatedABC Contest

2003-08-16 Thread Frank Nordberg


Jack Campin wrote:
 I have been trying to transcribe a rather obscure, and as far
 as I know never-before-transcribed, piece of tablature from a
 Scottish manuscript of about 1680.
Always trust Jack to come up with good an unusual music - and 
interesting challenges :)

 The MS gives no clue as to
 what instrument it's for or what the tuning is,
...
Hmmm...
I may shed some light on that, but first - in case anybody has abctab2ps 
- here's Jack's original tab translated into abtab

X:1
T:Cowgate gigue
M:none
L:1/4
K:Bmin Clef=french4tab
[,d][,c][,b]ba[,d][,][,]cb[,][,]e[,,d]\
[,,d]|[,d][,c][,b]c|[,c]dcbb:|\
|:[,c][,d][,e]b[,b][,b]([,c][,b][,a][,b][,c])
[,a][,,c][,,c][,c][,d][,e]b[,b][,b]bcab[,c]\
[,d][,e]b[,b][,b][,][,c]([,a][,b][,c])[,a]\
[,,c][,,c]bcde[,d][,e]b[,,c][,d][,c][,b][,b]|]
---

Now for the instrument:

Fifths-tuning seems to be the only one that works.
Diatonic frets is pretty obvious too. This almost certainly means it's a 
small instrument.

Diatonic frets create one problem though. I don't know if anybody else 
spotted the error in Jack's abc transcription. Here's the correct one:

X:2
T:Cowgate gigue
M:6/4
L:1/4
Q:3/4=100
K:G Minor
BAG dcB|=e2d   g_EE|B2A G2=e   |Af=e d2d:|
ABc dGG|AG/F/G/A/ FDD|ABc dGG   |d=ec d3  |
ABc dGG|AF/G/AFDD|def gB/c/d|DBA G2G|]
This doesn't sound very good to my ears at least.

There are two possible solutions to that:
*Half-frets - The first string has chromatic frets, the other ones 
diatonic. But this seems to create more problems than it solves, and 
besides the manuscript seems to be about a hundred years too young for 
that. So a more likely answer is:

*No frets - the player was supposed to know that some of the notes 
should be fingered slightly lower on the fingerboard. (I don't know of 
any other examples of French tablature would be used for a fretless 
instrument, but if it was used (and why shouldn't it?) using the letter 
a-e for *fingering* seems a very likely solution)

So, we have a stringed instrument that:
  *is relatively small
  *has four strings
  *is tuned in fifths
  *doesn't use the fourth string very much
  *doesn't have frets
  *is used for playing jigs
  *was known and used in late 17th century Scotland
Now, what on earth could that be? ;-)
Assuming a tuning of GDAE (mind you, it's just a wild guess!) here's 
what we end up with.
(Btw, I've also made a few rhythmic changes to Jack's transcription and 
halved the note values since 6/8 seems to be a more likely time 
signature than 6/4 for a late 17th century jig)

X:3
T:Cowgate gigue
M:6/8
L:1/8
R:jig
K:Bmin
V:1
  dcB fed|g2f   bGG|d2c B2g  |cag f2f:|
|:cde fBB|cB/A/B/c/ AFF|cde fBB  |fge f3  |
  cde fBB|c3/A/B/c/ AFF|fga b3/d/e/f/|Fdc B2B:|
X:4
%%tabrhstyle grid
T:Cowgate gigue
M:6/8
L:1/8
R:jig
K:Bmin
V:1
  dcB fed|g2f   bGG|d2c B2g  |cag f2f:|
|:cde fBB|cB/A/B/c/ AFF|cde fBB  |fge f3  |
  cde fBB|c3/A/B/c/ AFF|fga b3/d/e/f/|Fdc B2B:|
V:2 clef=french4tab
[,d1][,c1][,b1] b1a1[,d1]|\
c2b1 e1[,,d1][,,d1]|\
[,d2][,c1] [,b2]c1|\
[,c1]d1c1 b2b1:|
[,c1][,d1][,e1] b1[,b1][,b1]|\
([,c1][,b/][,a/][,b/][,c/]) [,a1][,,c1][,,c1]|\
[,c1][,d1][,e1] b1[,b1][,b1]|\
b1c1a1 b3|
[,c1][,d1][,e1] b1[,b1][,b1]|\
[,c3/]([,a/][,b/][,c/]) [,a1][,,c1][,,c1]|\
b1c1d1 e3/[,d/][,e/]b/|\
[,,c1][,d1][,c1] [,b2][,b1]|]
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Re: [abcusers] ABC as Tablature; being my entry in the ObfuscatedABC Contest

2003-08-16 Thread Frank Nordberg


Phil Taylor wrote:
Fascinating!

I always knew that somebody would come up for a use for the middle
directive which involved shifting the notes by an amount different
from an 
Seems I got so preoccupied with actual music that I missed a vital point 
in his posting:
I really hope you're not trying to make a new system for tablature in 
abc that is incompatible with the already existing abctab!

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Re: [abcusers] ABC as Tablature; being my entry in the ObfuscatedABC Contest

2003-08-16 Thread Frank Nordberg


Phil Taylor wrote:
The second part of the tune sounds good, but I'm not convinced by the
first part.  It's mainly the big interval from g to E which sounds odd.
I don't know. It sounded odd to me too at first, but now I really like 
that detail.

Then again, we're used to hearing tunes composed for the fiddle, where
that would be a difficult interval to play.  On a diatonically - fretted
instrument tuned in the way you suggest it would be perfectly easy,
and might have been common in tunes of the day.
The mystery deepens!
I more or less stated in a previous post that the fiddle was indeed the 
original instrument for this tune, but Phil is right: that passage would 
be really difficult on a bowed instrument.
Even so - I can't find a way to correct Jack's typo and retain a 
musically satisfying result without removing the frets.
Does anybody know of a plucked fretless instrument from that period?
Or does anybody have a different solution to the problem?

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